Entropy

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what do u expect?

Just hijacking whatever the hell you meant in this thread. :)

Entropy
by MC Hawking

Trash Talk
Harm me with harmony.
Doomsday, drop a load on 'em.

Verse 1
Entropy, how can I explain it? I'll take it frame by frame it,
to have you all jumping, shouting saying it.
Let's just say that it's a measure of disorder,
in a system that is closed, like with a border.
It's sorta, like a, well a measurement of randomness,
proposed in 1850 by a German, but wait I digress.
"What the **** is entropy?", I here the people still exclaiming,
it seems I gotta start the explaining.

You ever drop an egg and on the floor you see it break?
You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true,
if you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new.

That's entropy or E-N-T-R-O to the P to the Y,
the reason why the sun will one day all burn out and die.
Order from disorder is a scientific rarity,
allow me to explain it with a little bit more clarity.
Did I say rarity? I meant impossibility,
at least in a closed system there will always be more entropy.
That's entropy and I hope that you're all down with it,
if you are here's your membership.

Chorus
You down with entropy?
Yeah, you know me! (x3)
Who's down with entropy?
Every last homey!

Verse 2
Defining entropy as disorder's not complete,
'cause disorder as a definition doesn't cover heat.
So my first definition I would now like to withdraw,
and offer one that fits thermodynamics second law.
First we need to understand that entropy is energy,
energy that can't be used to state it more specifically.
In a closed system entropy always goes up,
that's the second law, now you know what's up.

You can't win, you can't break even, you can't leave the game,
'cause entropy will take it all 'though it seems a shame.
The second law, as we now know, is quite clear to state,
that entropy must increase and not dissipate.

Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so **** the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!
That, in a nutshell, is what entropy's about,
you're now down with a discount.

Chorus

Trash Talk
Hit it!
Doomsday, kick it in!

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As much as I hate to say it...I'm guessing GE will stumble on to it.

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GE, starts everything. The horror, when you realize how many things they've got a hand.
OPEC, has in an underground warehouse in Antarctica.

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I understand.

Here is something, along the same lines. Something doesn't seem right in it, though.

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I am Warren Buffett. I'll take two, please.

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Sure there would. Mass production.

I just saw the laser thing. It wouldn't suprise me. If you tune your strobe light to 8Hz a second, it will disorient you, more so.

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I have a computer chip in my ear lobe, recording and transmitting every dissenting thing I say, watching me, making sure I never amount to any influential position.

One day all of us who have said 'stuff' here will be executed, one by one. I really believe that. I'm gonna go talk to my Eschelon friend now.

ok, what's a maxwell's demon?

A system in which no energy is lost. That is the easiest answer.

but energy is supposed to be conserved in a closed system. in any system, actually.. but u have to take into account all the lost heat. but what does that have to do with my post? my point was that humans can never change the laws of thermodynamics-so what? they just keep trying. useless really. personally, i kinda like entropy. even on a molecular level, the world tends to greater disorder. a metaphor for life. humans try to organise it.. in a tragically futile attempt. i wonder what it would be like if everything tended to less entropy-more order. (well, we'd all be dead for one thing.. )

A Maxwell Demon, is a system, in which no energy is lost to heat.

so where energy does not transform into lower forms? in other words, an impossibility?

A contradiction.

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The way I understand the gremlin is: in a box with a partition. Running around separating the molecules, namely the faster from the slower. In the attempt to find a more economical use of the energy provided.

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Yeah. I just prefer the image of a little guy running around, it's more entertaining.

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Nope, only GR and M&D. I'm gonna try to get to it by the end of the year.

Was it GR like in scope?

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Fun. I'll bump it up on my list.

But.. hmm.. i don't think they ever would return to their half of the container and leave a vacuum on the other side. not ideal gases. maybe not even real gases. that would require them to develop intermolecular forces, which would require them to come close enough together for them to develop these forces. the only way to get ALL the molecules together on one half like that -even for a microsecond- would be to cool the box-the system down enough for molecules to reform their dispersion forces. (or possibly other forces if it's a different compound vapourised and maintained at constant high temperature). but then that would require the enrtopy of the surroundings to increase, and since total entropy of both surroundings and system has increased, this is constant with the second law. .. random straight line motion. that's what gases are supposed to have... so.. i don't think they'd do that. ever. (i'm sticking to the laws of thermodynamics on this one)

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I get a bigger kick out of the quantum. The image of, that Schrodinger (the O, should have an umlaut) Cat, is great.

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Not only that, but that it is both at the same time.

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