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Ok this thread is for the halloween read on halloween since Sleepy hollow is so short . Please dont start discussing before then or read it
On that point here are 2 formats of Sleepy Hollow
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Lets link to this site before it's competitors eh?
http://www.online-literature.com/irv...rey_crayon/32/
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hummmm maybe we could all read it at the same time hummm
Ok whose going join in???
100% agreement on the poll, I am a majority.:D
When do we start to read this?
on the 31st its tiny will probably take a couple of hours if you stop after every pargraph and may I add how do you know you preffered the film when you havent read it yet oor have you??
I'm in. It's something I wouldn't normally read and sounds like fun. Good idea, Lady of the Smilies! :banana:
Jay!!!! How dare you vote without posting?? you are going to read it though you vote you read thats the rule in my little thread:brow:
Maybe we should consider this rule for the Book Club as well! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade
I wouldn't mind doing this either but what about the time difference?
That's a better story than I had remembered.
The short story bored me even though I read it twice, I really prefered the film which is strange cause I rarely find any interest in film adaptations.
Well thats why I want to know who wants to join in then I can figure out time differances and decide on a time-also as the31st is a monday it will be on the30thQuote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
:D
I am in, just tell us what to do firmly as we are all rather like like two year olds sometimes, except Scher who is my idol, and are liable to to it all wrong without your explicit rules and guidance. i am looking forward to this, haven't read it since i don't know when and don't honestly remember that much.
"you're hopeless charlie brown just hopeless" lucy
Ok *claps hands for attention*
we are going to read sleepy hollow prefebly on the 29th or the 30 so its fresh in peoples minds!
if you have read it already DO NOT DISCUSS TILL THE 30TH
and stop voting!! please!
then Im not sure should we try to discuss it all at once on the forum? or should we do it via msn like the Live chat in the forum??
or should we have a sort of drop in anytime on the 30th and 31st???
humm please tell me your prefernces!:D
Another of Washington Irving's humorous stories. I have never met a poor Van Winkle, but I have met several who were quite well off.
http://www.online-literature.com/irv...frey_crayon/4/
Has anyone seen one of the film versions of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow?
I have never actually read the book myself, but remember seeing the most recent film version years ago.It had Christina Ricci and Johnny Deep if I remember correctly.Apparently, there is also an older version which came out in 1958.Has anyone else seen either?I didn't mind the film, it was quite thrilling story set in another era and featured many scenes around this mysterious forest.There was this one scene where he comes on the horse, which was epecially atmospheric and very chilling in a Gothic kind of way.
It was rather enjoyable on the whole, but it has been quite a while since I watched it originally.But now I will consider reading the book.
it is fun to think of having a live chat, but it seems like anything that can go wrong does and then noone or only one person shows up. so i like the idea of dropping in, it's not as exciting perhaps but it will still get the job done.
thankyou Nightshade for setting this up. it will be such fun.
"the other eleven apostles can do what they want but this money is coming home with us" rat race.
I'm in. Didn't vote for it, but sounds like fun and I didn't read anything of Washington Irving.
Night:
I've already read it and prefered the movie, didn't know one has to post upon voting :p, it's not mentioned in your rules :D... well, not before I voted ;)
:eek: sombody edited my post and it wasnt me:eek2:!!
PS 'O whosoever did edit my post' I didnt link to this site because I couldnt find sleepy hollow here!
:D
I'll be here! I've never read Sleepy Hollow, so this is a treat!
I'm in. I have seen the movie and I can't wait to read it. so count me in Night. great idea btw. :D
OK people there has been a slight and i| mean slight change of plans so here it goes!
- on the 29th at 2300 GMT (this is a sat night) I will have a live chat concluding when I am finally too tierd to stay up or am booted off the computer -whichever comes first!
_ Hopefully as we are going along I will be able to copy and past so we will have the discussion on the forum too then on sun and mon discussion on forum will continue until tuesday!¬!
is that understandable??
so Ill be PMing everyone who has said there in later on as Im at work at the mo and only on a 15 minute break!#
:D
Night I don't think I can make it that night because it's to late but I can join on Monday in the morning... is that ok? I'm not backing out.... I just can't
I think it will have to be a round the clock read Kaltrina. I'm always on such opposite hours from everyone, but I know some people will be on the forum.
But I don't understand. I'm 6 hours before some places in America and 1 hour before London so I don't know... i guess I didn't understand it so good. could someone explain?
:confused: :blush:
Ok Kaltrina this is how itll work I chose sat night because for most people they can stay up late! So At 2300 GMT it will be sunday morning in australia so anyone from there can join in (if they are willing to get up) and early evening in the US while us poor lot who are closer to the GMT line mostly get sundays off so can stay up all night chatting. Then as we go along Ill copy and paste it on here so from sunday 30th people can keep talking on the forum when the live chat is finished, is that clearer?
On that note if you PM me your time line and Msn address everyone Ill send you back the time wherever you are!
I love organising things:nod:
I don't think I'll be only, living in a GMT+2 zone (what will change that night into a GMT+1 zone, strange Europeans with their summer/winter time ;)) so it's 1 o'clock in the night for me (if I did do the computations right....)
I can't believe people haven't read this before, I did it my second year of university. I thought it was a good read.
(I wonder when the last time I posted on here was...)
Does that mean your in Kiwi Shelf?
:D
Everyone else check your PMs :D
Why? :D
:angel:
BTW, there are two Sleepy Hollow movies. A cartoon and the one with Johnny Depp. I am trying to remember the name of the cartoon, I don't think it is just "Sleepy Hollow" Anyways, the cartoon follows the book better. The Johnny Depp movie is actually not very close to the story.
I have read it, so I suppose I am in. Just what exactly am I agreeing to?
:brow: live chat not discussing till the I say so oh yes and following the discussion on the 29tgh, 30th and 31st
:D
I remember the cartoon. Bing Crosby narrates and sings the story. I usually hate the way Disney perverts fairytales and legends, but I liked the Sleepyhollow adaptation.
I have read half of the story and the cartoon does follow it pretty well so far.
Okay, I will not say a word about it
OK you may all start reading now :D
and if you are coming to the live chat think of at least one thought provking thought before hand ( I was going to say and not a Depp comment either but I guess I will allow that:lol: )
Can everyone coming to the live chat PM me your ahh approximate location ( so I can translate the tiime for you :D)
Well unless youve already figured it out !!
this is basically a BUMP message
so thans everyone wh PMmed me back whether you are coming or not to the live chat tommorow at 2300 GMT wich equals
1800 New York, and montreal time (est??)
900 (sunday morning)( ithink) sydney australia
I think that about covers it :D
If anyone is still unsure Pm me and ill work it out :D
Hi Nightshade, I don't have an MSN account, I'm on yahoo.
hey if you get this B-mental Yahoo can be used on MSN!
:D
Can you post a link to the chat?
Thanks!
well here are my start off thoughts about the story
1. “Women are the source of all evil”. Is this true here?
2. Vanity as in icabond, bones, and Katrina?
3. Is Icabopnd crane likable?
4. Sarcasm and satire?
5. Bones?
6. Adaptations---please limit the Johnny Depp-ying ;)
7. Katrina Van Tassel?
8. High German doctor reference To Mesmer?
9. Is it just about the power of superstion?
Ichabod Crane was quite likeable, and he won. He is a heroic character, because he didn't get stuck with Katrina, and he got out of Sleepy Hollow, and he had some success after leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade
The story is almost as tongue in cheek as Rip van Winkle. I didn't laugh out loud, be I found it quite amusing.
Franz Anton Mesmer was born in 1734, so he would have been roughly contemporary with the story, and his work would have been known to Washington Irving, but he was well after the time that would have been " the early days of the settlement". I consider the "high German doctor" to be a fictional item.
The story is only peripherally about superstition. The main plot is about the success of Ichabod Crane "for a country schoolmaster to be refused the hand of a Dutch heiress is a certain step to high preferment in the state."
does anyone like Icabond
me its a big fat no
hes yuckkkk
hes vain and a hypocrite
and he fell in love with her because he wanted her
land
for once I'm not that big a fan of corporal punishment
and when it's actually practised why play nice when
everyone knows they offspring get... friendly with the rod
good point
her reminds me of a lot of jerks i know. he is
selfish, shallow, a golddigger and really ugly!
ok that a good opinion that lead straight to the
next q which is
Do uyou think the whole thing is a satire?
yes of course
so Irving makes sure we dont like Ichabod
yes so is it satire??
irony sarcasm whatever its called?
he surely has a tongue in cheek attitude towards
him
and the way he spreads the rumours
uh-uh*nods*
so he doesnt like him??
or does he?
ichabod is merely more than a caricature, I think
so we are not expected to like him
it has to be a sort of spoof, i mean the way they
describe that guy, compared to brom he is utterly
repulsive, no matter how sweet his voice is in the choir.
it sort of reminds me of shrek, how they take all the
faerie tales and make a spoof of them.
he is not hero material
*agrees *
exactly hes just yuck
he is not yuck
he is a parody
simply funny
not at all he is such a user and an opportunist,
always looking for the next meal, seeing katrina as a means
to an end, all luxury living for him.
and hes full of himself
whcih makes him even funnier
well he is certainly full of something, i'll give
you that!
hehe
hum yes maybe he is funny but he annoyed me (i was expectting a depp carcterr)
carachter
ohh I cant spetlllit
i will admit the way he dances and fascinates all
the black servants is sort of well admirable, this tall
thin bag of bones gyrating all over the place.
interesting.yah i am sure katrina fell 'head over heels'
for the bum
err anyone here know when the civil war was??
1865-69?
or there abouts?
might be relevant although even the yankees thought
the ex-slave to be poor dumb creatures
so not before he died
well the description of them is to me rather
demeaning even if it is meant to be a compliment. icannot imagine even back then any black person being enamoured by
a white guy's dancing. it is just how i feel.
interesting so does this em.. mean maybe that he was
trying to what? lower crane??
i havent seen the movie crane is depp?