Do You Believe In the paranormal and Did you ever experience supernatural Phenomena?

I tought I'd start this in light of something I read on the "soul" thread, and also in light of those who have posted a belief in "life after death". My vote is "not in the usual sense.", that is, not as the departed spirits of the dead. When my children reported seeing the "ghost" of a confederate soldier in our mobile home park, my reaction was "Yeah, right." Then one evening, I stepped out on the porch about sundown, turned to the East, and there he stood in the next yard over. You couldn't see him from the knees down, as if he were standing in tall grass. My explaination: He was in his time, I was in mine, and I somehow saw him. I could see his legs, begause he WAS standing in knee-high grass. Not a departed soul, just a time lapse. That probably sounds crazy too, but give me your ideas, OK? Dragon out.

Me too I vote 'not in the usual sense.' Ghosts exist, but they are different from the way they are represented in the movies. This is an exagerated way to picture the paranormal. If you want more clear ideas about ghosts, look for African magic and paranormals. You'll be astonished with their perseption of those things. Ghosts are different creatures living their life seperatly from human's. You can evoke them and harm them, as they can do as well, by the means of magic. Leave them alone they will leave you alone. Look for them you get in troubles.

I voted yes because of some the experiences I have had all my life and if other people think I am crazy that is okay. I do not care what they thing about me because that does not matter to me. I can feel the Spirit energy along with the energy off the living too. I also do my best to find out if I am right or not by doing research after the experience. Plus I am the type to believe anything is possible. :)

I voted "I´m open-minded on the subject". I have never seen a ghost or anything like that but I think, it's possible that ghosts exist. I imagine - given ghosts do exist - that I would not be able to see them. .. Well, that overlaps my believe of "life after death" and would get too complicated, so I'll just stop here, for now.

I voted for "open-minded on the subject" as well. Throughout my few years, I have experienced some odd occurrences, and know not what to think of them, but, as with many subjects, remain highly skeptic.

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Originally Posted by mono

I voted for "open-minded on the subject" as well. Throughout my few years, I have experienced some odd occurrences, and know not what to think of them, but, as with many subjects, remain highly skeptic.

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As usual, I agree with Mono, I'm open minded on the subject. I've also had odd occurrences to totally discount ghosts or the paranormal - but then again there's always the very slim possibilty that it's all in my head.

NO to ghosts. NO to paranormal. But I've personally had experiences that I've attributed to senses we posess but do not readily acknowledge. We can feel in our gut when something seems 'not quite right', we hear our 'inner voice' direct us, and always ignore it at our own peril, but these unexplained senses are as 'voodoo' as I can go..........................and yes, the voices in my head are definately getting louder......now pass me the chicken bones and my lucky charms...........

I always think there's something watching me from the corner in my bedroom; something which sometimes requires my attention and makes me wake up in the middle of the night and make me stay up till morning. So i choose open minded.

I voted yes.I think we are ghosts.I was in a fire fight in Nam in "68" and had an out of body experience.I wasn't freaking or anything but I found myself watching the battle in ecstacy.I seen myself get blown out of my right leg, and I got a severe case of the uglies,(when stuff that belongs inside is hanging outside.)In awe I thought;cool,you give up the ghost before you actually get whacked and you don't really go through all that pain!I couldn't hear anything but I seen myself wrenching an screaming.When I came to ,I was in a hospital ward,but thought I had been shown heaven and got sent to hell!No one could still be alive in this much pain!But I was back,body an ghost as one with years of hell to pay.

Is spirit is the same with ghost? In my country, ghost is always define as unpeaceful spirit of people who died.

But I think that's an awesome experience Okmit..

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Originally Posted by subterranean

Is spirit is the same with ghost? In my country, ghost is always define as unpeaceful spirit of people who died.

But I think that's an awesome experience Okmit..

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Depends on whom you ask but for me personally there are only Spirits not ghosts. Spirits can be good or bad just like us folks that are alive. subterranean may I ask what country you are from? If that is a too personal then please do not answer I am merely curious.

I'm from Indonesia :) :wave:

I believe ghost refers to the center of spiritual life,the soul when manifest in any form.
When the Holy Spirit appeared as tongues of fire,it was the Holy Ghost.
God as a burning bush,was the ghost of God.
Ghostwriter...a representitive
I believe the Spirit is the driving force that brings forth attributes of the Soul.
My Soul doth magnify the Lord,my Spirit rejoices in God my savior...Luke 1:46

An Imp,or Poltergeist is a mischievous ghost that makes noises and creates disorder.
A mild pain in the ***.Most likely the dude in the corner!

My exprience was awesome,I wouldn't trade it for the riches of the world,nor would I give a penney to repeat it!I think I may have an understanding of how Lazurus felt when he was resurrected...Drat,I'm going too have to go through the sting of death AGAIN?

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Originally Posted by subterranean

I'm from Indonesia :) :wave:

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Allow me to extend a wave in greeting from the USA to Indonesia and to any others who post from far away lands! :wave: :wave: :wave: From the Dragon

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Originally Posted by subterranean

I'm from Indonesia :) :wave:

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Wow, I hear that is a beautiful country. Thank you for answering me. :)

Aww, thank you both..:wave: back to you ...

Ancestor, as I were saying in previous post, the such belief which many people in my country hold, that ghost is a manifestation of unpeaceful soul of dead person, is fully influence by cultural values. Even when they claimed to be religious people, In Indonesia, we have so many kinds of ghosts :rolleyes: ; each has its own "historical" backgrounds, and some of them have existed since very long time ago (since the time of kings).

My belief has many different kinds of manifestations and that spirit energy exists from all sorts because we are all sorts of people when we are alive. My faith is classified as new age but I have had some paranormal experiences also which were neat but slightly freaky at the same time. Thank you so much for showing me a small insight into your people you have opened my eyes to something new. :)

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Originally Posted by Ancestor

My belief has many different kinds of manifestations and that spirit energy exists from all sorts because we are all sorts of people when we are alive. My faith is classified as new age but I have had some paranormal experiences also which were neat but slightly freaky at the same time. Thank you so much for showing me a small insight into your people you have opened my eyes to something new. :)

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And that is why I started this discussion. To LEARN. When you have an experience you cannot explain, perhaps someone else has had a similiar experience that may shed light on your own-- provided you don't close your mind. Dragon out. :)

Ancestor,if you haven't already checked out Edgar Cayce I think you might enjoy his work.He too was able to provide intuitive insights.

Im not sure I havent voted. I guess I dont belive in ghost persay as dead people with unfinished buisness but I do belive in the exsistance of what Adil was talking about but not ghosys Jin or Djin if you want to spell it that way somthing else. and as for the dead? I dont know I think maybe the dead are wherever they are can see us but I dont think they are Here.
I have a feeling this post makes no sense at all :D

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Originally Posted by okmit

Ancestor,if you haven't already checked out Edgar Cayce I think you might enjoy his work.He too was able to provide intuitive insights.

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Edgar Cayce had some interesting work that seems bound to provoke a lot of controversial thought in any reader, and he has turned a lot of heads. Reading his work, he sometimes reminds me a modern Nostradamus combined with, a good friend of his, Aleister Crowley.
Even while reading his work, I still remain quite skeptic on the subject, but Cayce, as okmit suggests, will certainly get your ideas flowing on these types of subjects.

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Originally Posted by okmit

Ancestor,if you haven't already checked out Edgar Cayce I think you might enjoy his work.He too was able to provide intuitive insights.

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Originally Posted by mono

Edgar Cayce had some interesting work that seems bound to provoke a lot of controversial thought in any reader, and he has turned a lot of heads. Reading his work, he sometimes reminds me a modern Nostradamus combined with, a good friend of his, Aleister Crowley.
Even while reading his work, I still remain quite skeptic on the subject, but Cayce, as okmit suggests, will certainly get your ideas flowing on these types of subjects.

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Thanks okmit. :) It appears you have read Edgar Cayce and my parents talked about him when I was a kid. I have read some but not all and was there a specific book you had in mind. I would like to know because I am a very intuitive person who needs to learn how to use it better.

Mono anyone should be skeptic especially when dealing with paranormal events. So many people do try to take advantage of those people who are greiving. I am a skeptic until I have my own personal experience that I cannot find another answer to. So keep being skeptic until proven or disproven otherwise. :)

I think it best you select the genre that you feel coincides best with your gift for comparison only.I don't believe Cayce or anyone could or should teach you how to use your gift better.All good things come in time,and as your skill sharpens you decide how best to apply it.Cayce is an authority on his gifts,not yours.

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Originally Posted by okmit

I think it best you select the genre that you feel coincides best with your gift for comparison only.I don't believe Cayce or anyone could or should teach you how to use your gift better.All good things come in time,and as your skill sharpens you decide how best to apply it.Cayce is an authority on his gifts,not yours.

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Thank you, no one has put it that way before and I do enjoy learning from others as well it can help me also. Thank you again for your good advice. :)

Nope

But I do believe that humans are not the only sane creatures on earth, there is a whole other world here... they can see us but we can't see them, but they have their life as we do have ours... they eat, drink, learn, etc.

There could be one of them right next to you

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Originally Posted by Insomnia

Nope

But I do believe that humans are not the only sane creatures on earth, there is a whole other world here... they can see us but we can't see them, but they have their life as we do have ours... they eat, drink, learn, etc.

There could be one of them right next to you

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I do believe one can see those whom are deceased and that people should be more opened minded about life. I feel their energy and I do know when they are watching me but that does make me insane. What do you mean by sane creatures? Would you please clarify that for me? I am interested in hearing more about what you think on this subject.

I don't know whether Imsonia was reffering to the Genies in the Islam. But few times I heard from my Muslims friends, that genies have similiar lifestyle as men. There are bad genies and there are good ones. They also married, have family, and intelligent as well. It is said that Allah created them. They can see human, but common people can't see them. And with certain methods, man can rule and "use" them as his wishes, like the one we see in the Aladin story.

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I don't know whether Imsonia was reffering to the Genies in the Islam. But few times I heard from my Muslims friends, that genies have similiar lifestyle as men. There are bad genies and there are good ones. They also married, have family, and intelligent as well. It is said that Allah created them. They can see human, but common people can't see them. And with certain methods, man can rule and "use" them as his wishes, like the one we see in the Aladin story.

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This reminds me of the concept of having a 'sixth sense' (no, not the M. Night Shyamalan film), but the idea of having a separate sense from the five common senses (sight, touch, taste, smell, auditory), enabling people to have the 'keen intuition' of perceiving certain phenomena.
What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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This reminds me of the concept of having a 'sixth sense' (no, not the M. Night Shyamalan film), but the idea of having a separate sense from the five common senses (sight, touch, taste, smell, auditory), enabling people to have the 'keen intuition' of perceiving certain phenomena.
What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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I think I may believe we have a sixth sense. I dunno, I'm confused on this subject. Ever since I can remember 95% of the time I know who's on the phone before I pick it up and now I know who the email is from when the little envelope appears on the bottom of my screen. I always assumed this was normal and only when I was a teenage did I find out that none of my friends could do this. The question is what is "this", is it sixth sense?

Only those that know...know,the rest are left to wonder.

One day I met a guy in a professional meeting, he was a ceo of a firm and a former director in Microsoft. Someone told an esoetric joke, I laughed, he stared at me telling me that karma exists. And he told me the Race of Snakes would return (what's that I asked; well it's the nazis), and he asked me to read a book which supposedly describe a guy who has been visited by an spititual guardian and explained him a lot of things about Ghosts, the future etc. For example Ghosts would be people who would stay too much attached to earth for some reasons (like they have been assassinated and they look for revenge).

Well I'm a rationalist, since I never experiment such things, I have no reason to believe in writers who are writing for money or propaganda so I just report the book's story :D

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Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder

One day I met a guy in a professional meeting, he was a ceo of a firm and a former director in Microsoft. Someone told an esoetric joke, I laughed, he stared at me telling me that karma exists. And he told me the Race of Snakes would return (what's that I asked; well it's the nazis), and he asked me to read a book which supposedly describe a guy who has been visited by an spititual guardian and explained him a lot of things about Ghosts, the future etc. For example Ghosts would be people who would stay too much attached to earth for some reasons (like they have been assassinated and they look for revenge).

Well I'm a rationalist, since I never experiment such things, I have no reason to believe in writers who are writing for money or propaganda so I just report the book's story :D

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That is interesting and it seems to be a bit far fetched even for me who does believe in spirits. I feel the future is unwritten until it becomes the past and we are the writers of our own future. NewWorldOrder what made you pick that name? Just curious it reminds of the new Nazi's group but I do mean to imply you think that way, by all means I do not know how you think. I also feel everyone should be skeptic until proven otherwise. :)

From the several interviews I watched on TV, psychic or paranormal often define their capability to predict the future or see mentald description of other people, as sixth sense. Some even said that everyone has sixth sense but not everyone capable to develop it; or some are actually gifted with sharper intuition compare to others in general.

I do think there are some people with higher sensitivy or mental awareness towards others and their surroundings; and this make them capable in seeing or hearing things that common people may taken for granted.

On the other hand, there are practices which can sharpen your common senses, like hearing, seeing, or tasting. A simple example, in one old show of "Only in America", I saw a man who work in a big ice cream company and his main (and only) task was to create new flavours of ice cream. His tounge was so sensitive to flavors, that he was able to differentiate tiny difference of ingredients of an ice cream flavor.

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What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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This is a little off topic, but I do believe in a sixth sense. Please don't ask me to try to explain it, as I really cannot. Besides, many would simply ridicule what I would have to say anyway. Ancestor, you will probably understand what I mean by auras. That's as far as I go. I am one Westerner who doesn't think all Oriential things just mumbo-jumbo however. Since I suffer from chronic illness, my Oriential Doctor taught me a principal of I Ching that I did not know (I've studied a lot of things!) to help me deal with stress. It works great! :)

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That is interesting and it seems to be a bit far fetched even for me who does believe in spirits.

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I have no reason to believe in anything that Science hasn't demonstrated yet. It's out of the realm of science at the moment. I'm scientist that's the reason why I just wait for science to discover the truth: I won't go into sects or believe anything I read as fiction.

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I feel the future is unwritten until it becomes the past and we are the writers of our own future.

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This is rather a sociological belief than a scientific belief. People are endoctrined to believe for example that the schrödinger equation in quantum mechanics justifies this. In truth it is just one of subjective interpretation called the Copenhague interpretation which Schrödinger himself doesn't agree with. More and more scientists are discovering that Nature is fundamentally deterministic but appears to be random through chaos theory for example. Now for the mere mortal it doesn't change much: it's like in a role game: everything is predetermined by the game algorithm though you won't be able to predict precisely enough to do so because of the many combinatories that are possible.

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NewWorldOrder what made you pick that name? Just curious it reminds of the new Nazi's group but I do mean to imply you think that way, by all means I do not know how you think. I also feel everyone should be skeptic until proven otherwise. :)

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Read my former post and you may guess why: I'm fundamentally anti-nazi and against so called New World Order which is in fact crafted for the first time by Mussolini. But people forget history and when they hear about New World Order of UN they think it's a socialist kind of order whereas socialism is not the one dreamed by people, it's just a manipulative instrument that is used by the neonazi.

When I met the guy above, I didn't care much about what he said because I thought he was kind of mad guy but since I have assembled information that show there are indeed something going on and most people aren't aware.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

This is a little off topic, but I do believe in a sixth sense. Please don't ask me to try to explain it, as I really cannot. Besides, many would simply ridicule what I would have to say anyway. Ancestor, you will probably understand what I mean by auras. That's as far as I go. I am one Westerner who doesn't think all Oriential things just mumbo-jumbo however. Since I suffer from chronic illness, my Oriential Doctor taught me a principal of I Ching that I did not know (I've studied a lot of things!) to help me deal with stress. It works great! :)

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Yes I do know what you mean by auras and I do have a good sixth sense also. :) Only my sixth sense is more emapthic ability then just mere intuition but feeling illness, emotions, and auras as well. I practiced Tai Chi for stress which also worked but I have not done it for a few years now. Pendragon would please tell where I can look into I Ching principals. I wonder if that is part of Qigong or QI healing principals? I would love to learn to improve my whole being better due to I am not doing a good job at the moment. Stress is way too unhealthy for anyone. I feel we all have a sixth sense but some of us choose to use it and some do not want to tap into it let alone acknowledge sixth sense even exists. It is each to his or her own.

i'll have to read the last three pages one of these days, but as for now, i'll just be self-centered and voice my own opinion. :p

yes, i do believe that ghosts exist, but i really wonder what makes people always assume that they're the souls of dead people. maybe ghosts are, you know, just from a whole different world. maybe those who look like people we know are the doppel gangers from another dimension. :p

this may be a little unrelated, but i was just thinking, maybe we're really not the only living things in this universe. you know like before columbus and all the conquistadors, the europeans didn't know about the native americans? why, maybe earth is just like one of the isolated continents, and one day people could be so advanced that they could go to another planet in a flash via airplane. and the history that the students learn in school would be mainly about the universe as a whole and about the earth just a little.

maybe i've read too much sci-fi.

ah, so there's a discussion about sixth sense. well, i heard it really depends on each individual; some people can sense and others just don't. some people, therefore, can see ghosts and other miscellaneous spirits while others--who became skeptics--can't. maybe it has something to do with your genes after all. (i've read the god gene by who knows who that basically says some people are more spiritual than others. "god" can probably be replaced by "ghosts.")

my family uses the words "ghosts" and "demons" interchangeably, but in my opinion, ghosts can be either good or bad (think casper), while demons are undoubtedly evil. then again, this is the opinion i formed four years ago. i will have to come up with a new one. both ghosts and demons, incidentally, are subgroups of "spirits." other subgroups include genies, poltergeists, vampires, etc. now that's the lesson of the day.

i also trust science most of the time, but i don't believe that science has the answer all the time. i'm sure everyone has heard of ghostly anecdotes. well, i really like the one with the tourists and the photographs. this one happened to my science-sy professor, by the way. he was visiting a place somewhere and decided to take pictures of the head tribe or something. but then someone nudged him and told him he needed to ask the head tribe's permission first, and because he didn't, he wasn't going to get any of the pictures. and so when he developed the film, all of the pictures were fine except for the one of the head tribes: they were blank. another student shared a similar story.

i don't think this is just a coincidence and that there are some supernatural/paranormal/outlandish power somewhere out there. one we obviously have yet to understand.

Only Hamlet's dad, Banquo, and the one in "Blythe Spirit."

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Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder

This is rather a sociological belief than a scientific belief. People are endoctrined to believe for example that the schrödinger equation in quantum mechanics justifies this. In truth it is just one of subjective interpretation called the Copenhague interpretation which Schrödinger himself doesn't agree with. More and more scientists are discovering that Nature is fundamentally deterministic but appears to be random through chaos theory for example. Now for the mere mortal it doesn't change much: it's like in a role game: everything is predetermined by the game algorithm though you won't be able to predict precisely enough to do so because of the many combinatories that are possible.

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Yeah I know but there are things that happened to me that science cannot explain due to that they do not believe it can happen. I appear to fit into a catorgory that no one seems to be willing to scientifically study. My way of thinking is not totally against science in fact I love forensics which is not the kind of science we are talking about here. But there always have been things that can be scientifically explained and some that cannot be scientifically explained. Example, take a pair of dowsing rods and place them into someone hands. The dowsing rods beging to swing around but the person is not moving his or her hands. Can you scientifically explain how these rods swing for about 30 minutes without the person moving their hands? If you saw it with your own eyes would you believe what you are seeing or accuse the person of some trickery? I am a honest person and would never deceive anyone like that and my dowsing rod swing real well without my help. I do not expect anyone to believe me because that is something you have to experience for yourself.

You might like to read "Alien Encounters" by Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman. I never thought I'd ever believe in Ghosts or Aliens... but that book has changed my thinking alright. It's freaky enough in broad daylight. I'd advise anyone NOT to read it at night. I was so scared when I did.