Todays Youth.

I made a thread like this on another board. Kinda annoyed with todays youth.
But I mean, its insane the way kids are today.
A while ago I went to my schools grade 8 concert, and sitting next to me was this girl, looked around 8-10. She had this mini skirt on, some make up, a purse, and some fancy cell phone. And she was so young!
What ever happened to kids running around outside, and playing with dolls or something. Nowadays the girls are the freaking dolls. And not simple cute dolls.. Nope, they're all slutty (That a swear word?)
Seems that they try be older. I am only 15, but I would give anything to be 10, or even 8 again, living on our old farm. Makes me want to flipping slap them when I see them acting all snobish.
And its not only the kids, its the things they play with it too.
Like these Brat Dolls, or what ever they are called.. No wonder the kids are how they are. Not to mention the things going on in the media.

And the parents arent helping the situation either. Some even encourage thier daughters to wear these skimpy outfits. *SMH*
I also know girls as young as 11/12 sleeping with men as old as 30 or even 40.
Its sad actually.

Anyway, what are your views/thoughts on this?

Oh, and I know I mentioned girls in there alot, but this isnt like insulting them or singling them out, boys are involved in this as much as girls, :p I just used them for examples.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh when a 15 year old complains about youths. You have to be kidding me. You are complaining about your own generation. Maybe, its site dependent, at 15 and living on the farm, can you really even comment on this. I can tell you one thing. When I was you age there was a brief period of neo-Victorianism. The women fully covered themselves in shapeless clothes. Ever hear of leg warmers? Oh and these hideous baggy pants with stirrups to keep them down. When I go through my year books 70% of the women wore knit sweaters or sweater vests.

Most of what you complain about is the direct result of the entertainment and designer cultures. Back then Madonna bared her midriff, and the girls tried to look like her. It wasn't actually a look that I would ever like to see repeated. Still, you don't have enough distance from your target to criticize. sorry.

I dont live on a farm...
I live in the city.

Compare me to any other teenage girl in my class.. No wait.. My school.. And you'll see a very big difference.
Just because I am 15, doesnt mean I dont have an opinion, or that I cannot voice it. I think my age has nothing to do with this.
Its sad that I have to complain about my "own generation".
When I can easly tell right from wrong, and all they can think about it sex, drugs and alcohol.

But I dont get whats funny though..
I mean, if you think about it.. Me "complaining about my own generation" wouldnt that be right? Maybe right wouldnt be the correct word. But if I can see there is something clearly wrong, isnt that a good thing?
I dont follow all these stupid trends, or go to all these idiot parties, which I know only lead to one thing.. I am simply me.
Everyone else on the other hand is trying to fit in. And that leads to peer pressure, resulting in things which children shouldnt be getting into.
And if its not that, then its acting like the sluttiest pop star out at the moment.
Think about it for a second...

I kind of understand where you are coming from Shadow. It is pretty bad when I hear eight year olds singing Ludacris and Eminem songs and swearing in their conversation to each other (no joke, I was walking by the elementary school near my house and heard this).

My baby sister drinks more alcohol at 15 than I have ever had in my whole life. And she will not stop long enough to call a guy she likes - her "boyfriend."

It's not necessarily about being to young and not having a right to talk about your own generation...if someone can realize that there is something wrong with there generation, I would think that would be insight. But that is just my opinion.

California has just about a 50% divorce rate (don't quote me I'm not sure), and media and "celebutaunts" don't exactly help. Proper parenting I think would help a lot of it.

.:Shadow:., I know waht you mean I am 14 years old (yes that may be a kids age ) but I am nothing like that. I see girls half my age and older in their $100 dollar hollister jeans and $50 t-shirts that don't cover their whole top area and are thin enough that if you don't buy another $60 tank top every bodywill see their upper half.
They are the future of the wolrd and that will be a bit scary for those who are not fashion zombies. They waste their parents money and they are having affair three times earlier than their own parents. What is this wolrd coming to?

Yeah..
I was actually just thinking about this abit more, and after reading a post someone else has made, which I'll quote:

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I really don't think "kids today" are any worse than the kids from all the generations before, though. Years ago it was NORMAL for a 14-year-old girl to marry a man in his 30's, drop out of school, and have his babies. This was the typical Christian American family. Now, the man would go to jail for that. I don't know why people think things are "worse." Just because girls dress more sexual now, girls have been robbed of childhoods as soon as they hit puberty and got breasts since biblical times. It's nothing new.

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Isnt that true though?
Maybe it's not todays youth, but the youth in general. From anytime.

I would just think people have a little more respect with themselves.

I guess there is nothing wrong with maybe dressing a little older, or something. But alot of people go a little to far with it. When they're adults, they're going to look back at this, and think about how they wasted thier childhood. Whats wrong with being young and childish.. Why try be older.

One thing though.. So many people around me drink, that it's just made me hate alcohol more. I cant be in the same room with the stuff.

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

Just because I am 15, doesnt mean I dont have an opinion, or that I cannot voice it.

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You are right. :thumbs_up You have brought up an interesting (and perpetual) subject, and you are entitled both to do so and to get some honest opinions in return.

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

Maybe it's not todays youth, but the youth in general. From anytime.

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That, as far as I can tell, is entirely correct. :thumbs_up For the record, most young people I know are great, and we get along just fine (mutual respect is the key). Besides, we all make mistakes, and age has very little to do with that fact. I should know: I have made my fair share, and then some... :blush:

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

I would just think people have a little more respect with themselves.

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Yes... Once more something that is in no way limited to young people.

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

Whats wrong with being young and childish.. Why try be older.

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Nothing, as far as I am concerned. I also hope that I will be allowed to continue being old(er) and childish. According to my missus, I am nowhere near being grown up yet. ;) :lol:

Anyway: Do you know what I consider as the most childish thing there is? It is to lack the courage to be childish....

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

I also know girls as young as 11/12 sleeping with men as old as 30 or even 40. Its sad actually.

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I saved this for last: That, my dear, is a bit beyond sad: In most countries I know, it is also illegal, and for good reasons.

/Claes

yep, i find it very worrying too... and it's not just Shadow's subjective impression.
of course, every generation had it's rebellious youth... but sociological studies confirm that adolesence beginns early then ever for today's kids and their childhood is cut dangerously short.
also there's a notable "sexualization" of kids that went unnoticed for a couple of years, although it has been gradually building up.

i agree with B-mental that fluffy wooly pullovers are horrid, but we're talking about 10 y/o kids here! they're not supposed to look sexy and aren't mature enough yet to engage in any kind of sexual activity...

Shadow, I am just as worried and saddened by this as you. I am also 15(homeschooled, so maybe thats part of it), and when I walk past the elementary schools, the children I see there are talking, dressing, and acting in ways that I would never even think of doing myself! I guess all that we really can do is try to be a good example to them, and hope that some of what we do will stick with them!
~Rae~

I'm 20...so I'm not a youth anymore right?

I most definitely agree with Shadow. They make me feel inept! Far too grown up without the grown up substance! But to be honest I'm not very happy with my generation either! There's just so much to complain about so I won't. I don't like that sex is used to sell EVERYTHING. I don't like that even my generation, let alone the youths of next generation, do not read enough. I remember someone saying you dont need burn books (as in the Third Reich) you just need to stop reading them. I don't like it when young girls dress....'slutty'. Why? Why?

But the really hilarious thing is that they're learning all this from the adults!!!!

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

I am only 15, but I would give anything to be 10, or even 8 again, living on our old farm. Makes me want to flipping slap them when I see them acting all snobish.

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Shadow, I'm 30 years older than you and i agree I can't stand all these #%$##$$ *edited out words* young people here on lit net. :D :lol:

No, no, no, I'm only kidding. The young people here are wonderful. (Perhaps we could do without a few from the philosophy and religion thread ;) ) I think you're a little young to be complaining about youths. But I understand where you're coming from. But don't think that all adults are wonderful and perfect either. :)

Lets change it from Todays Youth, to just Whats Going On In The World Today. That seems to fit it a little bit more.

Its awesome to be childish, and silly, but to also know when to be mature. Its cool to look at grown ups, and see that they can have fun and be silly, but still remain grown up. I know some who can just be plain childish, I even seem alot older than them... Anyway, sorry I'll stop ranting about everything in this thread.

Nice to see so many people agree. I was expecting to get flamed. :$

Shadow:
1 more person here agrees.Even,If we (u and i) differ in a point (not meaning that we do) but it's very good to see a 15 year old.Saying what he or she wants.And not being a puppet like a lot(most :)) of the ones i see and know.

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Originally Posted by .:Shadow:.

Nice to see so many people agree. I was expecting to get flamed. :$

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Flamed? Perish the thought... Shadow, even if I had not agreed with you (which I do) there would be no cause for flaming.

Just slightly off topic: Flaming is something we hardly see around here, which incidentally happens to be one of the reasons to why I enjoy this place so much. As some of you know, my daughter recently joined the LitNet. Rest assured that I would not have allowed that if flaming had been a normal occurence here, so kudos to Admin, the moderators and well behaved members for keeping it enjoyable...

Back on topic: Just curious... You mentioned starting a similar thread in another forum: Did you get similar reactions there?

/Claes

Shadow, I can see where you are coming from but it is very difficult to generalize on such a huge scale. One cant just blame the kids and parents either, have you seen what goes on in the media? Do you think its the KIDS who produce those "dolls" that give girls a bad image to follow? Kids dont purposely say from a young age "I want to dress and act merely as an object of sexual desire and behave innapropriately" they follow what is handed to them and shown to them.
I get frustrated with my peers all the time but I know they just mimic what they are told to mimic by society and the media, and many parents ought to realize this as well. Kids cant help being easily influenced, its a very hard age to be at and everyone is insecure to some level.You just have to put the right stuff out there to educate and help youth instead of attacking them.