Cold Ale - The Blokes' Thread!

When I first received a Gideon (looked up the spelling, haha) from a random stranger in a suit outside my high school as a teenager. I, of course, rushed home to eagerly spend my evening reading the Holy Book, only to discover it only contained the New Testament, what a gyp. I think it's a marketing ploy to try and get you to go out and buy the complete thing.

My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. They're off their rocker, but it's hard to dislike a group that just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

When I first received a Gideon (looked up the spelling, haha) from a random stranger in a suit outside my high school as a teenager. I, of course, rushed home to eagerly spend my evening reading the Holy Book, only to discover it only contained the New Testament, what a gyp. I think it's a marketing ploy to try and get you to go out and buy the complete thing.

My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. They're off their rocker, but it's hard to dislike a group that just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

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UFO activity has been markedly on the increase in the North East of Scotland of late. We have connected as I am a Vorihon and Mrs Jocky is a Vorihoness. I think I will retire to my chambers now as there are some blue flashing lights outside my portal. :)

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...My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. ...just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.

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Originally Posted by jocky

UFO activity has been markedly on the increase in the North East of Scotland of late. We have connected as I am a Vorihon and Mrs Jocky is a Vorihoness. I think I will retire to my chambers now as there are some blue flashing lights outside my portal.

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Alien’s, UFO’s, Lights, Bigfoot…now you’re talking my language.
Remember the Marfa Lights Jocky?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuPpV...eature=related

Yours truly captivated by the reflection of an alien craft that landed in Chicago:
(Yes; I’m wearing my Roswell Mystery Cover Up” T-shirt)


http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/a...loudGate03.jpg

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/a...loudGate02.jpg


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Originally Posted by The Atheist

No.

The people who feel upset by this need to harden up.

Islam has been perverted by people who say it ok to kill infidels. I don't see the same mullahs screaming about that, so why should anyone care what they think about someone burning a book?



I disagree. Mockery is the best medicine against extremism. As with the Danish cartoons, if the response is violent, the problem is solely with those causing the violence.



Not that covers this, no.

Just as Americans may burn their flag and effigies of their president and have groups like the KKK, they are most welcome to burn qurans as they see fit.

Funnily enough, the main problem for the church is that they need to get a permit for a fire in the open, and they won't get it.

From my perspective, this stuff is great - both sides hate atheism, so it's nice to sit back and watch them attack each other for a change.

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The problem is that the people who this affects - in Afghanistan for example - don't have acces to liberal ideas, are easily polarised, however ridiculous it is to you and I, and just aren't critical in their regard of their own culture, leaders etc.

I agree that humour is the best response - for a more enlightened western society, but these are more feudal and display a distinct lack of humour about some things.

I also agree that there should be more self criticism.

Is it too serious for our relaxation area. Apologies if it is.

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Originally Posted by jocky

It is a difficult one Atheist, burning books is anathema to most people, yet I would happily consign the Bible, Talmud, Bhagavad Gita and all the other bronze age works of theology to the flames. As you point out it is the fundies on all sides who create the violence. Yet we are where we are and the repercussions could be horrendous. Worrying times.

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I agree that's it's not cut and dried, but I also think that allowing ourselves to be intimidated by threats of violence as worse than any of the alternatives.

I start to add it up - the Danish cartoons, Southpark, now the quran - where does it end? The edge of the wedge seems to be half of the wedge all of a sudden.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

When I first received a Gideon (looked up the spelling, haha) from a random stranger in a suit outside my high school as a teenager. I, of course, rushed home to eagerly spend my evening reading the Holy Book, only to discover it only contained the New Testament, what a gyp. I think it's a marketing ploy to try and get you to go out and buy the complete thing.

My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. They're off their rocker, but it's hard to dislike a group that just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

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Same reason I like Wiccans and Rastafarians. Any group whose idea of a good time is feasting and having an orgy - or getting high and having sex - can't be all bad!

We used to have those Gideon bibles given out officially when I was in high school. I recall being horrified at the time when some of the less well-bred pupils ripped them up. I still think book burning is pretty juvenile, but I'll defend the rights of people who want to do it.

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

The problem is that the people who this affects - in Afghanistan for example - don't have acces to liberal ideas, are easily polarised, however ridiculous it is to you and I, and just aren't critical in their regard of their own culture, leaders etc.

I agree that humour is the best response - for a more enlightened western society, but these are more feudal and display a distinct lack of humour about some things.

I also agree that there should be more self criticism.

Is it too serious for our relaxation area. Apologies if it is.

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Nah, best place to discuss this kind of absurdity is over a quiet whisky - and if anyone gets too stroppy, Parker's nephew is downstairs. You'll recognise him as the bloke doing bench-presses with 280 kg on the bar.

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The trouble is, now that the burning has even been mooted, nothing will make things any better anyway - much better to go ahead and get it over with. If it isn't this, it'll be something else. The reaction of some parts of America to the proposed mosque at Ground Zero is as bad as the reaction to the quran burning, as far as I can tell.

Do you lot go to other forums as well?

Quite the hot topic, this quran-burning.

No. No time for this one really.

Difficult topic book burning. As you say - it's out there already. Bugger.

How about gargoyles? Muslims appear to be offended by them as well.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10672263

Christians too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7cbYPgkt_w



poor gargoyles -- such a bad rap

And onto more pleasant subjects, 6 am this morning, the birds started tweeting with the very first light.

Nice!

Sorry, but my kids need the outdoors more than you lot need the sun, so get over it, it's down our way for the next six months!

I think an important goal for science and engineering is to straighten up the damned planet! This half and half stuff is just a nonsense, we ought to be able to align the planet so it sits perpendicular to the sun and we do away with this "winter".

It's not the weather - which has been its usual mild self - so much as the kids constantly coming home with some stinking, sneaky viral infection from all the diseased kids sent to school regardless of being as crook as a dog.

Soundo, you'll just have to move to NZ once we straighten 'er up - it isn't going to improve your weather. Plus, you'll probably be under water, Antarctica and Greenland will definitely melt.

If only the water would rise....and drown Blackpool! Las Vegas with Pox!

Blackpool - I really can't understand the attraction- and I went there as a young chap. It's a glorified funfair. Skegness either. My enduring memory of both is the smell of chips. I like chips, but not the smell everywhere.

I'm hoping the lack of Mick over the past few days means the weather's picked up and he's been flat out making silage, because there can't be enough rain to be raining there as well the amount we've had here today!

39 more days and I'll be building an ark!

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Antarctica and Greenland will definitely melt.

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Which will be quite sad really as this will only leave the New Zealand branch of the Bloke's Thread above water. Inform Parker to have the spare room ready, we are on our way.

Should we order in lunch now, or when we get there? (And after Paul's earlier comment, not chips, I feel.)

Hell yeah, move over here now while there's still some land left!

Jocky - I'm getting the boys down south to resurrect the NZ distillery in your honour. About 35 years ago, someone decided it would be good to start a New Zealand distillery and make our own brand of "scotch".

You must try some!

Oh, it seems like I've come at a bad time. Any spots left on that ark?

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Hell yeah, move over here now while there's still some land left!

Jocky - I'm getting the boys down south to resurrect the NZ distillery in your honour. About 35 years ago, someone decided it would be good to start a New Zealand distillery and make our own brand of "scotch".

You must try some!

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Thank you for the kind offer Atheist but I think I will pass on the Hokonui Moonshine. I will however be packing a few of my homeland's finest single malts and a few blends. Trust me you will never want me to leave. :)

Got any of The Laphroaig in there, Jocky? I only ask to act as bodyguard, you understand............

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Should we order in lunch now, or when we get there? (And after Paul's earlier comment, not chips, I feel.)

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Hell yeah, move over here now while there's still some land left!

Jocky - I'm getting the boys down south to resurrect the NZ distillery in your honour.

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Originally Posted by Tallefred

Oh, it seems like I've come at a bad time. Any spots left on that ark?

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... I will however be packing a few of my homeland's finest single malts and a few blends. Trust me you will never want me to leave.

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http://www.galvestonhistory.org/Elis...n_the_Gulf.jpg

(A shameful partial re posting)

I managed to secure Elissa for safe passage to higher ground. Aye, I still recall the day I first caressed her hull, stole glances at the supple curvature of her gunwales, marveled at her firm stern, but when she turned her bow towards me revealing those inflated jibs, my untamed desires set sail on the uncharted waters of wild abandon.

She’s now been tamed for the most part. Oh sure, she’ll creak and moan from time to time, but her barque is worse than her bite.
Jocky, you’re my first stop. The Gulf Stream is taking me north to Scotland and then I’ll work my way south from there. Elissa likes that.


Anchors Aweigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1UA...eature=related


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Rum, whisky, whiskey, anything will do...

Well thats the silage done. The lambs weaned. The cattle brought down from t'moor.

If I keep catching up at this rate it'll be Christmas in November.

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Got any of The Laphroaig in there, Jocky? I only ask to act as bodyguard, you understand............

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Your hired dafyyd, Mrs Jocky has been known to throw a wobbly when the bottle of Islay nectar is produced. :)

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Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle

Jocky, you’re my first stop.


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I will recognise you by your Roswell teashirt. :)

Thanks, Jocky. Should I bring a bottle of Arran?

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Originally Posted by Tallefred

Oh, it seems like I've come at a bad time. Any spots left on that ark?

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Always room for another couple. I'll just throw the unicorns off - stupid damn animals cost a fortune in vet's fees. Always goring each other while drinking.

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Originally Posted by jocky

Thank you for the kind offer Atheist but I think I will pass on the Hokonui Moonshine.

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Haha! You've heard about it then!

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Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle

I managed to secure Elissa for safe passage to higher ground.

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That's what we need - a return to more peaceful, slower travel.

Have you ever been on a square-rigger? The motion, sound and feel is utterly unlike any other form of transport.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Well thats the silage done. The lambs weaned. The cattle brought down from t'moor.

If I keep catching up at this rate it'll be Christmas in November.

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There you go!

Now all I need to do is figure how to stop it raining here...

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Thanks, Jocky. Should I bring a bottle of Arran?

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Each to his own dafydd, I was getting worried as I had never heard of it but apparently it is a new single malt. I think perhaps you should bring the Barra as we may have to dump a few intoxicated members overboard. Now I am retiring upstairs, illuminated by my candle, to partake of my Glenmorangie. I will hear from you tomorrow but not too early. Like your style.

Arran is a lovely light, slightly peaty malt, bit like an Islay, but not so matured. Very nice, too. Don't forget to blow out the candle, that Glenmorangie burns nicely!

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Always room for another couple. I'll just throw the unicorns off - stupid damn animals cost a fortune in vet's fees. Always goring each other while drinking.



Haha! You've heard about it then!



That's what we need - a return to more peaceful, slower travel.

Have you ever been on a square-rigger? The motion, sound and feel is utterly unlike any other form of transport.



There you go!

Now all I need to do is figure how to stop it raining here...

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Yiou remember the black mass you did for Mick so he could get the silage done? Well the rain's got to go somewhere.

I sounds as though it could be a jolly trip on the ocean blue - particularly with Jocky's single malts. I have no experience whatsoever, but I'm willing. Presumably the experience will be useful for The Atheist Ark too.

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

Yiou remember the black mass you did for Mick so he could get the silage done? Well the rain's got to go somewhere.

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Good ! It's gone somewhere else again, because about an hour after I posted, the clouds blew away and it's not only fine, but absurdly warm for the time of year - presently touching 20 deg.

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

I sounds as though it could be a jolly trip on the ocean blue - particularly with Jocky's single malts. I have no experience whatsoever, but I'm willing. Presumably the experience will be useful for The Atheist Ark too.

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Boats and booze go together in a way cars can't. You cannot be a responsible drinking driver, but if you wait until the anchor's dropped - or if you're off watch on a ship - you can responsibly whacked.

Sounds better and better!

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

That's what we need - a return to more peaceful, slower travel.

Have you ever been on a square-rigger? The motion, sound and feel is utterly unlike any other form of transport.

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Unfortunately not, only walked around them. I bet it is a thrill.
The largest sailboat I’ve actually sailed on was a Columbia 38. I was invited to join the crew on a two day regatta, which included sailing through the night. It was a great experience.
Other than that I’ve sailed several times on a friends Lightning.

http://www.columbia-yachts.com/c38brochure.jpg

http://cnyblogs.com/HistoricalSociet.../lightning.jpg

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Originally Posted by jocky

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...to partake of my Glenmorangie.

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Arran is a lovely light, slightly peaty malt, bit like an Islay, but not so matured. Very nice, too.

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Boats and booze go together in a way cars can't. You cannot be a responsible drinking driver, but if you wait until the anchor's dropped - or if you're off watch on a ship - you can responsibly whacked.

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As you can see from the brochure, the Columbia has plenty of room to stow your beverage of choice.

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Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle

Unfortunately not, only walked around them. I bet it is a thrill.

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Yes, I spent a couple of days on one many moons ago.

Magic.

Probably wasn't 150 years or so ago!

:ihih: Hey Gents, Sorry it's been so long; old women and love are a nightmarish pair....:banana::banana::incazzato: :sleep:::cold::argue::sleep::party::ladysman::auto : :iamwithstupid::nopity::bawling::nono::sad::ciappa : :dupe::toetap05: :angel::ihih:

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

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If that isn't a blast from the past; and a perfect description of my lif:conehead:

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

This is now becoming my monthly drive thru/by shooting off of the mouth. I'd tell you what I was referring to but that would give you an unfair advantage wouldn't it? I'll just use quotes in making reference. The reading this month was much more interesting than previous times when my virus detector found a trojan horse on-site.

Someone on site older than Jocky? God forbid.

No politics allowed, but the host (reference our parasitic nature) here in the states sells adds for even the senatorial race in NV. Adieu.

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I think, at the moment, I am the ancient on sight. Do they have voting in Nevada...I thought everything there was decided by a coin toss; since gaming came to Florida, everything is decided by perscription drugs:party:

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

How's about this chap in the US burning The Koran. Is this a Freedom of Speech too Far?

I think the media should have to answer for any problems from this. Not only is it potentially putting lives at risk, but it's polarising opinion - straight into the arms of the terrorists.

In the UK we have inciting racial or religious hatred laws. Is there nothing similar in the US?

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Seems like alot of folks down my way admire the crazy bugger; I personally don't like a middle aged, confused coot with a small church in the middle of nowhere claiming he is representing my belief system...
[QUOTE=jocky;951737]:)

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Originally Posted by jocky

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Look Soundo, they are playing our song.

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I love that they are playing the song; but I'm confused as to what level to set the lights and if I should move the furniture for dancing...

I read a bit of the constitution recently; it's really vague...kind of like, "Don't ask, don't tell vague...

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

When I first received a Gideon (looked up the spelling, haha) from a random stranger in a suit outside my high school as a teenager. I, of course, rushed home to eagerly spend my evening reading the Holy Book, only to discover it only contained the New Testament, what a gyp. I think it's a marketing ploy to try and get you to go out and buy the complete thing.

My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. They're off their rocker, but it's hard to dislike a group that just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

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Where did you say that group was; I knew there was at least one church group that I could fit in with....the only problem I have with orgies is that it's kind of equal rights; even the ugly people get a girl:troll:

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

:ihih: Hey Gents, Sorry it's been so long; old women and love are a nightmarish pair....

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Hang on a second.

Are you trying to tell us something here? If so, spill, woman!

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Thank goodness Soundos back. Now we have someone to swab the decks, pour the refreshments and repel all boarders. I guess that will be me that gets the black spot. Ha har Jim lad.

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I guess that will be me that gets the black spot. Ha har Jim lad.

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Black spot?

Ball, surely?

Is this an illness I kow nothing about? What causes it? What is the cure? Other than a bath, that is! That Stockholm Tar gets everywhere!

Now here is a conundrum. Today I went to the dentist and had root canal treatment by a young lady from Latin America. Earlier, I had noticed an article on the MSN page with a a picture of one, Penelope Cruz, whoever she may be, and the dentist could be her double. The question is this, should I ignore the voluptuous dentist and lie back and think of England, or should I enjoy, what would otherwise be an unfortunate necessity?

If you can lie back and think of England whilst somebody is carrying out mining operations on your gums, you are a better man than I am, Gunga Din.

Did you know that if you stick you tongue into the cavity left by a just pulled tooth you can feel the bone underneath? I tried it quite a while ago and it surprised me. I wouldn't recommend t though - infections and all that.

I once had a filling - quite a large one that looked like a small ingot - come out once. I was working in a primary school and said to one of the female staff - "Just feel the weight of that little bit of metal." "Oooh yeah", "She says, "Where's it from". The horror look and jump reflex was comical when I told her.

Teeth - the fun side.

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Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle

Alien’s, UFO’s, Lights, Bigfoot…now you’re talking my language.
Remember the Marfa Lights Jocky?

Yours truly captivated by the reflection of an alien craft that landed in Chicago:
(Yes; I’m wearing my Roswell Mystery Cover Up” T-shirt)
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Talking of Bigfoot, did I ever tell you that the first Mr sounds wore a size 13 steel toed boot...

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

I agree that's it's not cut and dried, but I also think that allowing ourselves to be intimidated by threats of violence as worse than any of the alternatives.

I start to add it up - the Danish cartoons, Southpark, now the quran - where does it end? The edge of the wedge seems to be half of the wedge all of a sudden.

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Did someone say Southpark; God, I miss Southpark:bawling: It was never quite the same after chef left, though...Like family guy, every American cartoon needs at least one etnic:icon_bs:

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Do you lot go to other forums as well?

Quite the hot topic, this quran-burning.

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:mad: I'll be glad when they go back to discussing American Idol; particularly since the people I know can't stay on one side of the fence from week to week.

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Originally Posted by Cat Square

Christians too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7cbYPgkt_w

poor gargoyles -- such a bad rap

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Hello and welcome, Cat...how'd you come up with the name:shocked:

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

And onto more pleasant subjects, 6 am this morning, the birds started tweeting with the very first light.

Nice!

Sorry, but my kids need the outdoors more than you lot need the sun, so get over it, it's down our way for the next six months!

I think an important goal for science and engineering is to straighten up the damned planet! This half and half stuff is just a nonsense, we ought to be able to align the planet so it sits perpendicular to the sun and we do away with this "winter".


Soundo, you'll just have to move to NZ once we straighten 'er up - it isn't going to improve your weather. Plus, you'll probably be under water, Antarctica and Greenland will definitely melt.

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I'm coming as soon as I can sell this bit of slum I live in as beach front property; I waded home with water to my ankles after a short burst of rain the other night...won't be long now:party:

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

If only the water would rise....and drown Blackpool! Las Vegas with Pox!

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Maybe that is why we are getting floods...I knew there would be a pox on Florida when we legalized gambling:eek6:

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Which will be quite sad really as this will only leave the New Zealand branch of the Bloke's Thread above water. Inform Parker to have the spare room ready, we are on our way.

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Do you mind if you and Mrs Jocky take the top bunk; I tend to roll out of bed.

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Should we order in lunch now, or when we get there? (And after Paul's earlier comment, not chips, I feel.)

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Atheist always knows how to feed us and Parker keeps our hinges well oiled with liquor; I'm beginning to consider letting the shack go for taxes..

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Originally Posted by Tallefred

Oh, it seems like I've come at a bad time. Any spots left on that ark?

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Welcome, I'll give you my spot if you don't mind me perching on your shoulders with my looking glasses..

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Well thats the silage done. The lambs weaned. The cattle brought down from t'moor.

If I keep catching up at this rate it'll be Christmas in November.

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Just in time for you to send my a nice wool sweater...in the event we do have a winter in the South.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Hang on a second.

Are you trying to tell us something here? If so, spill, woman!

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:party: Oh yes, this old lady is keeping late hours and having to take extra vitamins...our cup runneth over :ihih:

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Thank goodness Soundos back. Now we have someone to swab the decks, pour the refreshments and repel all boarders. I guess that will be me that gets the black spot. Ha har Jim lad.

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Thank you kindly, Jocky. I think Mrs Jocky is taking over head of housekeeping though; I shall be in charge of supplying staff uniforms. Parker wants to know if he can wear those tiny bicylcle shorts he got as a "best customer" gift from victorias secret.

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Originally Posted by Brian Bean

Now here is a conundrum. Today I went to the dentist and had root canal treatment by a young lady from Latin America. Earlier, I had noticed an article on the MSN page with a a picture of one, Penelope Cruz, whoever she may be, and the dentist could be her double. The question is this, should I ignore the voluptuous dentist and lie back and think of England, or should I enjoy, what would otherwise be an unfortunate necessity?

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Forget England, my friend. Ask for the gas and keep looking south:ihih: