Cold Ale - The Blokes' Thread!

From Gilliatt.
“…womanly name of “Iu-i-si-a-wih-si-wih-ti-tsa”, the [Zuni] governor called her a “bag of hard howls,” and said that she had the habit of storing up breath like a horned toad, which accounted for her extraordinary circumference, and her ability to make a noise in the world” - Frank Hamilton Cushing; Zuni ethnologist

I knew a girl like that once, she was called Sh-ar-on-Heg-gin-bo-tt-om. She went from one nomenclaturely challenged group to another when she married my mate, David Pratt.

[QUOTE=soundofmusic;948451]The Breakers Beach Club
“Come in the water. The water is fine”
The summersault layout maneuvers starting at 1:20 are superb:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NFsu...eature=related

......they should fire the coreographer.



I hate to think what you would do to this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxzKZYAWvo

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

I must admit, when my son was walking in New Zealand, I had every confidence I could just go there and find him if need I needed to. After all, I knew he was somewhere on the South Island. How hard could it be?

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:lol:

I'll just ring my mate to go and get him if need be.

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I think it is rather nice of him to run around in a Lexus instead of a limo; what does the queen go about in?

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Rolls Royce. Gold carriage.

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I guess I won't visit England during rainy season then; when is it cool and dry over there?

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March 11th.

;)

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I walked into the hospital today just for a medical clearance form; just the thought of them touching me and I feel 100%; tell parker I'm ready for that Kahlua...

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Excellent!

Your Kahlua's at the table and I'll bring over a couple of those really healthy, hand-made Belgian dark chocolates when I get a sec. (Freud at play? My finger the "X" first time I typed that!) :blush2:

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

Was she American; I thought we were the only ones who thought that there were no other countries in the world...

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No worries there, ignorance is pandemic.

Just seen on the news that there's been an earthquake in NZ.

Hope things are going ok.

I think Atheist is in Auckland, which is reasonably far from where the earthquake was, but ya, hope everything is well.

Yes indeed, a long way from us, but a large earthquake hit Christchurch this morning. 7.1 on the Richter, with early damage estimates over $2billion.

Thakfully, as it struck at 4.30 am, nobody has been killed, because the devastation and damage is unbelievable. Roads & bridges destroyed, thousands of houses either flattened or severely damaged.

Pics here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/im...113677#7073686

I hate to sound like a twit but if houses were flattened where were the people who belong in them at 430 in the morning?? :confused:

Just glad you're OK mate!

My brother and his family, who live in the area are all OK. They were able to reassure us nearly straightaway because of facebook. It has been some use at last.

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Originally Posted by Nightshade

I hate to sound like a twit but if houses were flattened where were the people who belong in them at 430 in the morning?? :confused:

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A combination of lucky escapes and most of the buildings that actually fell down were commercial buildings in the central city and therefore empty at 4.30 am.

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Originally Posted by dafydd manton

Just glad you're OK mate!

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No worries, it's volcanic eruptions we have to worry about, not earthquakes!

Auckland has had one every ~600 years for the past several hundred thousand years and the last one was 800 years ago, so we are well and truly overdue.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

My brother and his family, who live in the area are all OK. They were able to reassure us nearly straightaway because of facebook. It has been some use at last.

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Dead right!

I first heard about it on the internet at about 5.30, so I switched the tv and radio on... nothing.

Back to the internet - information everywhere, the best source being NZ chat pages.

Typical TV - nobody dead, not news!

Forgot that our Atheist lives in New Zealand, glad to read that you are OK and that it is just damage, not people. Scary stuff though.

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Originally Posted by Neely

Forgot that our Atheist lives in New Zealand, glad to read that you are OK and that it is just damage, not people. Scary stuff though.

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Yes, it would have been terrifying.

I've lived in lots of places that get frequent earthquakes, but about strength 5 is the worst I've felt, and that was scary. 7.1 is 100 times stronger.

Still only the two injuries, although it looks like it has scared at least one bloke to death with a fatal heart attack occuring straight after it and lots of other cardiac "events", apparently.

Just the one bloke left in ICU and they're quietly confident he'll be ok.

Injuries coming through now are from the Darwin Award-wannabes who are determined to kill themselves trying to fix damage they aren't competent to fix.

We're lucky in the UK - no vlcanoes or earthquakes of any note. We had a tornado in Birmingham a few years ago where a few streets were damaged.

We do get flooding, which is perhaps the worst event.

Facebook is good for keeping in touch. Most of it is complete ******** but it saves phoning the relatives when you can just chat and send messages.

You forget the earthquake in Lincoln a few years back too. Then there was the hurricane in October 87. Of course its technically not a hurricane but a great storm because it was in the wrong part of the world but who is quibbling?

Didn't you have quite a bit of disruption recently through a volcanic eruption? Admittedly, not a UK-based one.

The floods of 1952 spring to mind as well. Not to mention that a rise in sea level wouldn't be all that good for large parts of the country.

That's one of the things the Christchurch quake brought home - it was in an area where earthquakes were unknown. I saw the farmer interviewed whose farm was right above the epicentre.

"I never knew there were fault lines here" he said.

The picture behind him showed a huge rupture running right through his entire farm - and for several miles thereafter.

He knows now!

We get tornadoes occasionally in Quebec, and small earthquakes in Montreal occasionally. The only major natural disaster I remember is the icestorm in '98, it caused something like 6 billion dollars in damage.

Somebody correct me , but can't fault line appear just about anywhere? I mean yes obviously there are the established ones but surley enough bashing causes new cracks forming smaller plates and more fault lines?
I am thinking f the kinderegg I was going to use to explain layers of the earth to one of my classes this year... i was even going to crack top layer and creat fault lines .. all of which I would get to eat of course.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

We get tornadoes occasionally in Quebec, and small earthquakes in Montreal occasionally. The only major natural disaster I remember is the icestorm in '98, it caused something like 6 billion dollars in damage.

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yes, but in a country where temperatures of -30C in the daytime is considered "normal", I think you have enough to go on with.

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Originally Posted by Nightshade

Somebody correct me , but can't fault line appear just about anywhere?

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Only the remotest possibility. Faults are only on or near the edges of the tectonic plates, so one appearing in the centre if a plate, say, would be extremely unlikely.

Remind me again how do we know where the edges are? How say do we know that the plates are one solid piece as opposed to two or three jammed together which eventualy drift loose causing 'new' fault to appear?

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Originally Posted by Nightshade

Remind me again how do we know where the edges are? How say do we know that the plates are one solid piece as opposed to two or three jammed together which eventualy drift loose causing 'new' fault to appear?

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Seismic surveys, mostly. Geologists create small explosions and measure the movement for several kilometres from the site. This enables them to track where faults are and so far, the predictions have been correct.

Not saying it cannot happen - just very, very unlikely. An earthquake which was able to shatter a tectonic plate wouldn't be good for anyone anywhere.

And just to top things off, since the earthquake, North Island has been beset by severe storms and flooding.

The bottom half, anyway. I almost feel a bit guilty, sitting in Auckland in nice spring weather while the rest of NZ falls to bits.

But not for long!

:D

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Didn't you have quite a bit of disruption recently through a volcanic eruption? Admittedly, not a UK-based one.

The floods of 1952 spring to mind as well. Not to mention that a rise in sea level wouldn't be all that good for large parts of the country.

That's one of the things the Christchurch quake brought home - it was in an area where earthquakes were unknown. I saw the farmer interviewed whose farm was right above the epicentre.

"I never knew there were fault lines here" he said.

The picture behind him showed a huge rupture running right through his entire farm - and for several miles thereafter.

He knows now!

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We get flooding pretty regularly. The 1952 one claimed quite a few lives, and the smaller ones cause fatalities too, not to mention the cost for the people who can't get insurance on their houses then. I don'[t think there were many fatalities in the 1987 storm - though Sevenoaks was denuded and should have been called Oneoak.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Yes indeed, a long way from us, but a large earthquake hit Christchurch this morning. 7.1 on the Richter, with early damage estimates over $2billion.

Thakfully, as it struck at 4.30 am, nobody has been killed, because the devastation and damage is unbelievable. Roads & bridges destroyed, thousands of houses either flattened or severely damaged.

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Glad to hear you and for the most part everyone is OK.

For us it is tornadoes, flash floods and at times we will have a summers with excessive deadly heat.

Keep us informed on the latest.

Gilliatt

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

From Gilliatt.
“…womanly name of “Iu-i-si-a-wih-si-wih-ti-tsa”, the [Zuni] governor called her a “bag of hard howls,” and said that she had the habit of storing up breath like a horned toad, which accounted for her extraordinary circumference, and her ability to make a noise in the world” - Frank Hamilton Cushing; Zuni ethnologist

I knew a girl like that once, she was called Sh-ar-on-Heg-gin-bo-tt-om. She went from one nomenclaturely challenged group to another when she married my mate, David Pratt.

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

The Breakers Beach Club
“Come in the water. The water is fine”
The summersault layout maneuvers starting at 1:20 are superb:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NFsu...eature=related

......they should fire the coreographer.



I hate to think what you would do to this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxzKZYAWvo

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Well guys, it could be that I've fallen in Lussss...ove; but it all looks pretty romantic to me today...

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

:lol:

I'll just ring my mate to go and get him if need be.


Rolls Royce. Gold carriage.

March 11th.

;)
Excellent!

Your Kahlua's at the table and I'll bring over a couple of those really healthy, hand-made Belgian dark chocolates when I get a sec. (Freud at play? My finger the "X" first time I typed that!) :blush2:



No worries there, ignorance is pandemic.

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Atheist, I forever find myself comparing every man I meet to you and Parker; I still haven't found any that know that I need Belgian chocoate with my Kahlua:ladysman:

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Yes indeed, a long way from us, but a large earthquake hit Christchurch this morning. 7.1 on the Richter, with early damage estimates over $2billion.

Thakfully, as it struck at 4.30 am, nobody has been killed, because the devastation and damage is unbelievable. Roads & bridges destroyed, thousands of houses either flattened or severely damaged.

Pics here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/im...113677#7073686

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Glad to hear everyone is okay...I don't know what would happen to us in Florida if we had an earthquake, we grew up in the Cuban missle crisis with "Duck and cover":icon_bs:

I was thinking of Hurricane Andrew, I got one phone call during the hurricane, it was from a total stranger from England who said, "I hear you're having a bit of a blow over there..."

It would take more than a 7.2 magnitude earthquake to light a fire under old Atheist. Now if his fishing line was to break while struggling with a decent sized salmon, that would be a disaster! :)

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Originally Posted by jocky

It would take more than a 7.2 magnitude earthquake to light a fire under old Atheist. Now if his fishing line was to break while struggling with a decent sized salmon, that would be a disaster! :)

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Damn right!

The saddest moment of my life was out game-fishing about 30 years ago.

I watched a huge fin surface next to the bait. The shark sucked in the bait and the line ran off, screaming. The skipper, who saw it as well, reckoned it was 300kg plus of mako shark.

It had bitten through the bait just behind the hook.

I was devastated.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Damn right!

The saddest moment of my life was out game-fishing about 30 years ago.

I watched a huge fin surface next to the bait. The shark sucked in the bait and the line ran off, screaming. The skipper, who saw it as well, reckoned it was 300kg plus of mako shark.

It had bitten through the bait just behind the hook.

I was devastated.

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I have a sense of deja vu here. The skipper's name and his sworn testimony, along with a faded black and white photograph of this legendary, or should I say mythical Mako would be appreciated. Remember I have read ' The Old Man and The Sea ' at least he produced the skeleton of the Marlin, though no one saw him catch it. :)

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I was thinking of Hurricane Andrew, I got one phone call during the hurricane, it was from a total stranger from England who said, "I hear you're having a bit of a blow over there..."

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Good JOB he was English, if he had been Scottish it could have been misconstrued and caused a lot of adverse comment, blaming mostly me, in this dangerous thread. :)

Guys and Gal, I am desolate and need my pals. Me and Mrs Jocky have had a huge spat. It all started when I broached the subject of hiring an Au Pair. I had rehearsed all the arguments in favour, such as the kids are all up and you deserve to put your feet up. No more cooking, cleaning and washing. " Aye and I suppose she will be young, blonde, blue eyed and big busted. " The thought had crossed my mind; "You must think I came up the Clyde in a banana boat. " The argument went on in this vein for several hours until Mrs J brought it to an abrupt halt, she flashed her eyes dangerously and remarked; " Well if we are hiring an Au Pair, I am going to have me a Butler. " You canna win. :(

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Guys and Gal, I am desolate and need my pals. Me and Mrs Jocky have had a huge spat. It all started when I broached the subject of hiring an Au Pair. I had rehearsed all the arguments in favour, such as the kids are all up and you deserve to put your feet up. No more cooking, cleaning and washing. " Aye and I suppose she will be young, blonde, blue eyed and big busted. " The thought had crossed my mind; "You must think I came up the Clyde in a banana boat. " The argument went on in this vein for several hours until Mrs J brought it to an abrupt halt, she flashed her eyes dangerously and remarked; " Well if we are hiring an Au Pair, I am going to have me a Butler. " You canna win. :(

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Well, we shall cry and have a drink together...doggone it, Young Romeo has left a trail of empty liquor bottles in his wake:dupe: and told me I missed my "window of opportunity with my day or two of morality"....

Parker, I think I might have a shot of rum in my Kahlua tonight....

Anyone have a song for the Jock and myself:cryin:

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Originally Posted by jocky

I have a sense of deja vu here. The skipper's name and his sworn testimony, along with a faded black and white photograph of this legendary, or should I say mythical Mako would be appreciated. Remember I have read ' The Old Man and The Sea ' at least he produced the skeleton of the Marlin, though no one saw him catch it. :)

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Not even a photo, dammit. It was there and gone in seconds.

I don't even have a photo of the 108lb tiddler I won a fishing contest with.

Even worse, my brother's dog ate the jaw!

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

Anyone have a song for the Jock and myself:cryin:

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Yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

This is now becoming my monthly drive thru/by shooting off of the mouth. I'd tell you what I was referring to but that would give you an unfair advantage wouldn't it? I'll just use quotes in making reference. The reading this month was much more interesting than previous times when my virus detector found a trojan horse on-site.

Anyone heard of the Madrid fault in the middle of the U.S.? Sand geysers and all. No loss of life in Kiwi land is a thankful thing.

Someone on site older than Jocky? God forbid.

No politics allowed, but the host (reference our parasitic nature) here in the states sells adds for even the senatorial race in NV. Adieu.

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This is now becoming my monthly drive thru/by shooting off of the mouth.

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You should make it weekly, or at the very least give Parker advance warning!

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The reading this month was much more interesting than previous times when my virus detector found a trojan horse on-site.

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Seriously?

I find that a bit odd - I come in at least daily and haven't ever seen a sign of one. Or are you referring that Saffer? A sneaky disguise if ever I saw one!

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Anyone heard of the Madrid fault in the middle of the U.S.? Sand geysers and all. No loss of life in Kiwi land is a thankful thing.

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Even more amazing, the Christchurch quake was slightly stronger than Haiti's one, yet the death toll of zero compares pretty favourably with haiti's 230,000.

I looked up the [New] Madrid fault - never heard of it before. Interesting stuff.

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No politics allowed, but the host (reference our parasitic nature) here in the states sells adds for even the senatorial race in NV. Adieu.

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That's Google, not LitNet.

How's about this chap in the US burning The Koran. Is this a Freedom of Speech too Far?

I think the media should have to answer for any problems from this. Not only is it potentially putting lives at risk, but it's polarising opinion - straight into the arms of the terrorists.

In the UK we have inciting racial or religious hatred laws. Is there nothing similar in the US?

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

Someone on site older than Jocky? God forbid.

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:)

Great to hear from you Gb, even if you have come back with an insult.

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How's about this chap in the US burning The Koran. Is this a Freedom of Speech too Far?

I think the media should have to answer for any problems from this. Not only is it potentially putting lives at risk, but it's polarising opinion - straight into the arms of the terrorists.

In the UK we have inciting racial or religious hatred laws. Is there nothing similar in the US?

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From what I can gather the authorities can only take action once an offence has taken place. I am sure some of our American friends can enlighten us as to the legal position. If it is allowed under the Constitution I doubt if anything can be done as this is inviolable. Saturday should be an interesting day.

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How's about this chap in the US burning The Koran. Is this a Freedom of Speech too Far?

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No.

The people who feel upset by this need to harden up.

Islam has been perverted by people who say it ok to kill infidels. I don't see the same mullahs screaming about that, so why should anyone care what they think about someone burning a book?

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

I think the media should have to answer for any problems from this. Not only is it potentially putting lives at risk, but it's polarising opinion - straight into the arms of the terrorists.

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I disagree. Mockery is the best medicine against extremism. As with the Danish cartoons, if the response is violent, the problem is solely with those causing the violence.

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

In the UK we have inciting racial or religious hatred laws. Is there nothing similar in the US?

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Not that covers this, no.

Just as Americans may burn their flag and effigies of their president and have groups like the KKK, they are most welcome to burn qurans as they see fit.

Funnily enough, the main problem for the church is that they need to get a permit for a fire in the open, and they won't get it.

From my perspective, this stuff is great - both sides hate atheism, so it's nice to sit back and watch them attack each other for a change.

:D

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

No.

The people who feel upset by this need to harden up.

Islam has been perverted by people who say it ok to kill infidels. I don't see the same mullahs screaming about that, so why should anyone care what they think about someone burning a book?



I disagree. Mockery is the best medicine against extremism. As with the Danish cartoons, if the response is violent, the problem is solely with those causing the violence.



Not that covers this, no.

Just as Americans may burn their flag and effigies of their president and have groups like the KKK, they are most welcome to burn qurans as they see fit.

Funnily enough, the main problem for the church is that they need to get a permit for a fire in the open, and they won't get it.

From my perspective, this stuff is great - both sides hate atheism, so it's nice to sit back and watch them attack each other for a change.

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It is a difficult one Atheist, burning books is anathema to most people, yet I would happily consign the Bible, Talmud, Bhagavad Gita and all the other bronze age works of theology to the flames. As you point out it is the fundies on all sides who create the violence. Yet we are where we are and the repercussions could be horrendous. Worrying times.

Personally, I keep a pile of Ghidean Bibles for use as kindling when it gets cold in the winter. At least, those are given out for free. I can just imagine the killing Qu'ran publishers are making right now.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

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:)

Look Soundo, they are playing our song.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

Personally, I keep a pile of Ghidean Bibles for use as kindling when it gets cold in the winter. At least, those are given out for free. I can just imagine the killing Qu'ran publishers are making right now.

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Ghidean Bibles, that is top drawer Pip.