Russian literature

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Originally Posted by Mr.lucifer

The true greatest tradition of writers are the canadians.

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Canadians should stick to maple syrup and learn how to spell.

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Canadians should stick to maple syrup and learn how to spell.

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Hey I'm Canadian! But yeah, we don't really have a great canon of literature.


Fyordor, Stlukes's post makes perfect sense. You're just pissed cuz he owned you with his "superior intellect." :p

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Originally Posted by JCamilo

And if the emotions is before the statement, does it have more appeal?

:idea:Moby dick has certainly qualities that rivals any novel even written, even the without doubt, most influential of all, Don Quixote. It is as epic as Tolstoy and as deeply psychological as Dostoievisky at once.

Sounds how bad?

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Emoticons make a writer look like an idiot who doesn't know how to use words. There is no proper way to use them which would make the user either look more intelligent, or improve his statement. The inclusion of emoticons in a message is the equivalent of juvenile netspeak such as lol or rofl. We already have a great medium for expressing ideas and feelings called "the word." This goes double on a literary forum devoted to the discussion of eloquence.

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Originally Posted by mortalterror

Emoticons make a writer look like an idiot who doesn't know how to use words. There is no proper way to use them which would make the user either look more intelligent, or improve his statement. The inclusion of emoticons in a message is the equivalent of juvenile netspeak such as lol or rofl. We already have a great medium for expressing ideas and feelings called "the word." This goes double on a literary forum devoted to the discussion of eloquence.

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I reckon the smilies are kinda cute.

Emoticons make a writer look like an idiot who doesn't know how to use words. There is no proper way to use them which would make the user either look more intelligent, or improve his statement. The inclusion of emoticons in a message is the equivalent of juvenile netspeak such as lol or rofl. We already have a great medium for expressing ideas and feelings called "the word." This goes double on a literary forum devoted to the discussion of eloquence.

But remember, Mortal, I am a visual artist, so I don't underrate the image and overrate the "word" to the same extent as you... although admittedly, emoticons aren't the greatest of imagery. I'll try to dig up a good appropriate image next time just for you.

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Originally Posted by G L Wilson

Canadians should stick to maple syrup and learn how to spell.

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Just for existing, the canadians are the greatest people in existence.

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Originally Posted by stlukesguild

But remember, Mortal, I am a visual artist, so I don't underrate the image and overrate the "word" to the same extent as you... although admittedly, emoticons aren't the greatest of imagery. I'll try to dig up a good appropriate image next time just for you.

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I know that. You are a special case; so I make allowances for all the pictures you throw up or the visual arts references you make. I also don't object to them to the same extent in other non-literary forums. There is nothing new about them, and in time I've grown to accept them as a regrettable part of internet culture, just as I've made peace with 1337, lolcats, Rickrolls, and multiple exclamation points. I just don't expect to encounter them in the comments of older more sophisticated posters.

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Originally Posted by mortalterror

I know that. You are a special case; so I make allowances for all the pictures you throw up or the visual arts references you make. I also don't object to them to the same extent in other non-literary forums. There is nothing new about them, and in time I've grown to accept them as a regrettable part of internet culture, just as I've made peace with 1337, lolcats, Rickrolls, and multiple exclamation points. I just don't expect to encounter them in the comments of older more sophisticated posters.

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Come on man, Rickrolls and lolcats are priceless. Encyclopedia dramatica definitely has some literary merit. Its a like a modern devil's dictionary.

I don't like the question mark myself.

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Originally Posted by mortalterror

Emoticons make a writer look like an idiot who doesn't know how to use words. There is no proper way to use them which would make the user either look more intelligent, or improve his statement. The inclusion of emoticons in a message is the equivalent of juvenile netspeak such as lol or rofl. We already have a great medium for expressing ideas and feelings called "the word." This goes double on a literary forum devoted to the discussion of eloquence.

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:iagree:

Have you exausted Wikipedia in the available languages?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Mayakovsky

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Маяков...ич

If you love literature, as I do, Russian literature--especially 19th Century novels--are among the greatest in world and close to Shakespeare in their value as literature in general. Dostoevsky, Tolstoy are, of course, the giants, with Gogol close behind. Chekhov did not write novels but his short stories (especially the later ones) and his plays are a great as anything ever written. I hate to seem snobbish, but you don't really know anything about literature until you've feasted on the Russians!

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Originally Posted by CharlesSwann2

If you love literature, as I do, Russian literature--especially 19th Century novels--are among the greatest in world and close to Shakespeare in their value as literature in general. Dostoevsky, Tolstoy are, of course, the giants, with Gogol close behind. Chekhov did not write novels but his short stories (especially the later ones) and his plays are a great as anything ever written. I hate to seem snobbish, but you don't really know anything about literature until you've feasted on the Russians!

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Welcome to the site, CharlesSwann. I am never happier than when I am reading good Russian literature although I do not pretend to be nearly well read enough in the subject. I have never read Turgenev, for example, and I have only recently started Gogol. You may be interested to join this thread about several authors (in fact, any you like), but which recently turned to Dostoyevsky, Dickens, Fielding, and Gogol (two out of four ain't bad :) ). I am frankly weak on the Russian authors, and I would appreciate any insight you could provide. Here's the thread:

http://www.online-literature.com/for...erature-Ramble

Ok I've read through this whole thread and nobody even mentioned Dimitry Gregorovitsh,,,,, so now I must suggest everyone look up Dimitry Gregorovitsh and procure a copy of (the Fishermen) and report back here in two weeks , ample time for the book has less than 400 ,pages, a good read is guaranteed to all,,,,,,

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Originally Posted by Goodman Brown

Ok I've read through this whole thread and nobody even mentioned Dimitry Gregorovitsh,,,,, so now I must suggest everyone look up Dimitry Gregorovitsh and procure a copy of (the Fishermen) and report back here in two weeks , ample time for the book has less than 400 ,pages, a good read is guaranteed to all,,,,,,

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Sorry, but I'm rereading the Possessed after more than 30 years. That (and Christmas) will take up my time for a while. But thanks for reading the other thread. You should go back over there and start talking about Gregorovitsh. JCamilo is more broadly read than I am, so he probably knows all about him. But if not, you can teach us a little and we will read him when we are ready. Your comments would be welcomed in any case.

After reading the thread and not seeing Dimitry Gregorovitsh as a author that was being read here I decided to maybe get him some attention sort of speak but it's not really surprising because if you Google top Russian Authors he doesn't appear , still I enjoyed reading his book and maybe someone else will as well , of course at your own time and pace,,,,