he gets over it. wasn't that the point? somewhere along the line he grows up?
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he gets over it. wasn't that the point? somewhere along the line he grows up?
Well, I bought him getting over that spat of whatever-his-problem-was, but he still seemed kinda...out of touch. He didn't get over the "carousel" obsession (you know, some kind of child divinity)... but then, neither did Salinger.
That's the reason behind my liking it. The book is half choked of ironies. And is fun to read too.Quote:
I read it in 10th grade and hated its guts. Although my friends and I still call each other 'sexy moronic bastards.' Holden was a hypocrite; he didn't like phonies, but he always put on a fake face for everyone. He's an example of one of those hypothetical young men who think they are Napoleons but are actually quite ordinary, to allude to Crime and Punishment.
People've been talking too much about it. Some like it, while the others don't. The votes for every book should only be 2---"Yes"&"No" and nothing can be justice. Reading a book is a personal thing. Enjoy what u like is the point. Farewell comments.
I like "The Catcher inThe Rye" much, very much...
I see what you're saying Avalive, but this is a literature forum, where people discuss literature, wether or not they like something, and why.
That's true, Iwillkiku, I see ur point too. There is actually no conflict in this.
And I've jioned this discussion. I've been listenning and ready to be talking.
*grinning at kik's avatar and trying to figure out what's on his head* looks like it might be one of those 'hannibal lecter' head things. you know, to stop you going crazy and trying to eat people. :)
The fact that the theme of teenage troubled boy has been so overplayed in recent years took away from the innovativness of the book.
*Grins back at Faye* Actually there's nothing on my head. Its somthing in the background. I think a wicker chair? Maybe? Anyways, a wicker chair isn't going to stop me from going crazy and eating people. *evil grin*Quote:
Originally posted by fayefaye
*grinning at kik's avatar and trying to figure out what's on his head* looks like it might be one of those 'hannibal lecter' head things. you know, to stop you going crazy and trying to eat people. :)
Anyways, the innovation... yeah... The angsty teenage youth bit is overdone, but I don't think that its ever been done as well as Salinger was able to do it. I've read several books with similar plots, but Catcher is by far the most moving, realistic, well-written, and all around enjoyable of the lot. And it came in the early days of teenage angst literature, so its innovation is there too if you can take yourself back 40 some odd years.
I'm taking a closer look at my avatar and I see that it does need some explination. So here it goes ONLY ONCE!!!! After this, it shall forever remain a mystery. I'm lying on a sofa in the lobby of my dorm, stomach down. My head is in my girlfriends lap, nestled in my dull yellow hoody. Its about 3:30 AM, so that explains the half stoned look on my face. In the background there is a dieing plant. But there is nothing affixed to my head in any way, shape, or form. As I crunched the immage down to fit it into a 50X50 block it sort of squashed the colors together, so thats why I have bright red blotches.
Any questions?
Too bad.
Thats all I have to say about that!
LOL I think we should start a thread just to tease kik's avatar in any and every way possible.
lol. Oh, absolutely. Hey, kik, the great thing about wicker chairs is, you can use them to knock your prey unconscious, or at least stun them, then move in for the kill. :D hehe. This is a more amusing conversation than the whole teenage angsty thing. :)
[if I ever fix my digital camera (unlikely, technology hates me) I'll stick up a funny avatar and you can have revenge]
well, I read one flew over the cuckoos nest.
I think I like it better than catcher.
Haven't read Cuckoo's Nest yet. Ooh but for my 16th b-day my mom got me tickets to the Broadway production starring Gary Sinise. Fourth row center....Sinise....hooray. So much better than Jack. Gotta read the book though -- I hate seeing a film/show and not reading the original.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest is a classic and a well written book that flows. Start today emily.
I usually read the book before seeing it's movie counterpart too, since the movie version is invariably worse and not well portrayed.
i just saw "x" yes i know it was filmed years ago. but i'd read the book and had no desire to see the movie. well, it was so well done that i was impressed. of course, my boyfriend's sister asked me what i thought of the ending, and i replied "it's a lot different from the book," then i remembered malcolm had written the book - duh!!! :rolleyes:
and recently i saw an excellent masterpiece theatre video of moll flanders. :) :) i'm going to read the book now, because the video was great.
I try to do that too...it feels more 'fair'...Quote:
Originally posted by simon
I usually read the book before seeing it's movie counterpart too, since the movie version is invariably worse and not well portrayed.