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I'll have to wake up at 4 am and travel 300 miles to get my copy on Monday :bawling: but I'd be SO worth it.
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Yes! Thank you http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u..._dread/hug.gif
I'll have to wake up at 4 am and travel 300 miles to get my copy on Monday :bawling: but I'd be SO worth it.
I was at my friend's house earlier today, and she got her copy in the mail by the time I got there. Her little sister was curious and looked through the last few pages of the book, and her sister got confused and wanted to ask me a question since
1. I'm not a fan, but I used to be, so I could at least help with the plot a little. Even though I don't remember much because I don't care.
2. My friend didn't want ANY spoilers.
3. Spoilers obviously don't matter with me anymore.
so she dragged me into her room and showed me the end. This is my opinion:
I think the epilogue is...really bad. It reminds me of fanfiction. Bad fanfiction that makes baby Jesus emo. And me emo. Anyone else agree?
Same here Lily! I hate how cliche the whole thing is (especially Harry and Ginny AND Hermione and Ron getting together, how predictable! :sick:) . I was also a bit dissapointed at so few people dying in the novel, all the reviews made it sound like 10+.
Yes, there were elements that were predictable but perhaps you were all expecting too much - it is, after all, a children's book. I thought the ending was nice, and necessary. In the absence of closure in Bloomsbury's desperation to keep their heads above water I wouldn't be surprised if they'd have commissioned someone to write more books which would be damaging to the series. Imagine if more Narnia books were written without C.S Lewis being at the helm?
In terms of the numbers that die, I get it to at least 10, being a combination of major and minor characters. I'd list them, but I don't want to spoil for anyone that's still reading. I was getting close to the end of the book wondering if there would be anyone left.
I actually liked it a lot even with the predictability. It was your basic good vs evil, and I may have been much more sad if the good guys didn't live happily ever after, well at least for the most part. There were losses and gains, but as Bii pointed out, it is a children's series. What did you really expect to happen at the end?? It is a happy end and one that isn't likely to be written around by people wanting to extend the franchise and increase profits.
I can't wait to read it! I'm going to take it to Cuba!
yes the bit at the end was very disapointing! But over all i really enjoyed the book! I bawled my eyes at the bit with the grave at rons bros house!(i hope this doesnt spoil anything as i havent mentioned what happened etc!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily Adams
I didn't cry but it was rather sad... I mean It just happened out of nowhere, I couldn't believe she killed that character off... Many of the other deaths just seemed random as well...
I feel like I have read the book already. I just can't stop myself from reading spoilers. Good thing I care more for the text rather than "how it ends".
I have to admit, I have had very very few gripes about any of the Harry Potter books/movies, etc. :thumbs_up I really really liked #7. EXCEPT FOR THE STINKY epilogue!! :rage: I am trying to justify this. Maybe I was expecting too much, and after you have had 6 awesome hits, it would be kind of hard to continue to duplicate. However, I was glad to see that Harry didn't die at the end....but to get married and have kids with Ginny somewhat irked me...lol. To this moment, I have no clue why. I guessed Ron and Hermione....and was fine with that one. I just think that she should have stopped right before the...... "19 years later....":sick:
I think it was more to cement the theme/moral/lesson throughout the books about "choices" and whatnot... It was all about that part where he talked to his son in the end... Although it would have been funny if the last words have been "until now" instead...
Well, I guess she wanted us to know that Ron and Hermione did in fact get together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slrtwobee
an that that was her way of showing that voldamort was truely gone, which i think was the purpose of the 19 years later bit, even if it was extremely cheesy. Also i think it was to show that he finally realised the truth of Snape and excepted that he was a brave man. Hence one of his sons being called Albus severus.
That really made me sobby in the book when he's seeing snapes memories...
too much for one who hasnt read the book yet :| ....
i shouldnt have come i shouldnt have come!! :bowling: i know i know!!
damn my ultra-curious mind! :bawling:
erm..harry dies?! and then comes back??! argh okay dont tell me....no tell me what happens!...no dont....erm...i'd better go read the book first!
damn!
The way they present Harrys death and ressurection is kind of religious, like he is being sacrificed for the good of the world.
Yeah, then some people come over and say "Harry Potter is really a book on satanism!"
did anyone else see the connections between Voldamort and his death eaters, and Hitler and the Nazis?
Well, if we suggest that the death mark is like the nazi symbol... and so on... but I think it's kind of far-fetched.
I prefer to avoid such connections, I only make such connections with things that I really like and it comes out bizzare anyway...
yep, lots of reviews over here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh
i think they have a point, considering the Death Eaters racial ideology, their muggle-born registration thingy... Voldy's dad was a muggle and he's obsessed with pure blood, styling himself as the purest pure blood wizard of all... Hitler was an Austrian (an illegitimate son of a woman who was also married to her second cousin) who wanted to be the "purest" German of all times... his original last name was Schicklgruber...
i think it's interesting to draw these parallels... What would be so frightening and repulsive about Tommy Boy if there was no connection to 'real life'?
just because Voldy is a powerful wizard doesn't necessarily make him scary. it 's his aims and his means of reaching them that make him evil, not his powers as such.
.. by the way, I finished the book last night, and I was sooooooooooo proud of Snape...
of course, there were lots of theories (based on next to zero evidence) that he was in love with Lily..., so it was kind of predictable... but it was balm for my weary soul to read "The Prince's Tale" (ch. 33). he was a real hero, to protect the Potter brat for 17 years and spy on Voldy.
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/love016.gifSnapehttp://www.freesmileys.org/emo/love029.gif
when I have a son I'll name him Severus (my b.f. doesn't like the idea at all)
I had a feeling about that for ages, the order of the Pheonix was definitely when i believed it most. Its amazing how you can feel his torment. Did everything in his power to believe that Harry was his dad through and through so that he didnt have to see lily in him incase he cared for Harry. Yet in the end it appears he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepyWitch
yep, exactly... probably it's only because my perception is warped anyway, but in my humble opinion, Snapes memories is the best-written passage in HP7, except for the chapter where Harry dies and meets DD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh
hum, on the other hand, I often wonder whether I'd like Snape so much if it weren't for Alan Rickman in the films... I think if Snape was as geeky and greasy-haired in the films as he is described in the books, and if Rickman's voice wasn't so mesmerizing, I wouldn't find Snape half as fascinating
I havent read anything past book 4. But I really want to know if that stinker that gives harry such a hard time at school (can't think of his name) meats with a bad end? Please, please tell
Draco Malfoy?Quote:
Originally Posted by motherhubbard
nope, he survives,.. Harry/Ron/Hermione even save his life two times
i'm with you on that one.....Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepyWitch
Personally i think they should have gotten rid of malfoy, but crabbe i'll do.
was malfoy at least humbled?
somewhat.. but no way as much as he'd deserveQuote:
Originally Posted by motherhubbard
I was so happy to see Draco humbled. Plus, after seeing the way his family was being made to suffer by Voldermort I was glad he didn't die. The scene where Narcissa lies and declares Harry dead is one of my favorite. It puts a much more human face on the entire Malfoy family and you see that good or bad they are still people and have the same worries and connections of other families. I thought their concern for their son's safety was really touching, and it made me see them as loving parents as well as the bad guys.
yep, I liked that, too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mkhockenberry
what do you guys think about JKR's style?
i like reading the books because they are really gripping etc..
but on the other hand, there are lots of opportunities for reflection that she just doesn't make use of. i dunno about other readers, but her style kind a propells me along and forces me to read on and on without thinking. :(
Just finished reading it!
Out of all the characters that died, Hedwig's was the saddest for me. Ok, it's an owl but it was just too sudden and too soon in the book as well!
Overall impression...a lot better than expected. I didn't particularly like the 6th book, it went too fast and left too many questions. This one at least explained things and didn't rush (too much).
The epilogue could have been written differently, or maybe not written at all. I dunno, it's not just because it was verging on being cheesy but just...somehow unneccessary (sp?). The last chapter already hints at a happy future and all that.
About JKR's style: It does somehow make you read fast and not think. I even jumped 2-3 lines, then went back, didn't understand and eventually read it properly. Maybe it's just the anticipation of wanting to know more as quickly as possible :)
Did anyone else think that they spent too much time galavanting around in the woods and on the run? This part seemed to dominate a lot of the book and, in my opinion, could have been improved.
i just finished the book a few hours ago.....wow
im really feeling depressed though, and im not reallly sure why
i dont think its because of how the book was or how it was ended, but more the inescapable knowledge that i will never be reading a new Harry Potter book again. it just seems much to soon to be the end of such beloved characters
what was going on with the dying baby when he was talking to dumbledore? did i just miss an explanation for that or was it just supposed to be creepy?
it seemed to me that the mid section of the book was disproportionately large, them hiding, doing nothing and being grumpy. i understand the need for a lowpoint so the climax can be that much better, but there was an awful lot of harry being pissed off, grumpy angry at ron etc. which i also didnt like about the 5th book....i really wish it wasnt over...i just cant come to grips with the though that that is the end of the harry potter saga
I think it was basically the part of Voldermort dying within him. At least that is how I viewed it. That affirmation that it isn't really dead yet, but very weakened. Because of his sacrifice, only the horcrux part of Harry was harmed, I guess. I was a little confused while reading that part too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben lurie
i think the epilogue definitely left me sad an unsatisfied, but im not really sure why....i knew all along that harry was gonna hook up with ginny and the same would happen with ron and hermione and i really enjoyed that idea but...maybe there was a better way to have shown that? also, while hearing about the lil kids harry and ginny had was fun and all...it isnt nearly as entertaining or romantic as mabe harry just doing something with ginny when he was still 17 and the harry we all know....rowling could have hinted easily that they were gonna have kids etc. but without the 19 years later thign
that is an excellent explanation, interesting that it was a baby though? you would think that the horcrux part of harry would be nasty and evil, as it was not a very good part of harry. characterizing it as a baby makes it seem almost like a good part of voldemort, like him as a baby when he was still innocent and nice
I think it had something to do with the fact that at first appearance Voldermort was a baby. Something to do with the whole coming back into a physical form thing. It isn't really likely to come back as an adult. He only achieved that as he gained in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben lurie
its amazing how much better i feel just talking out the points...do you think rowling will continue to write? or now that shes a billionaire is she done? even if she does start writing again, im gonna have trouble falling in love with new, unknown characters
one problem that i had with harry as a character is that he just isnt bad *** enough. this is definitely a typical guy opinion, but seriously, it would have been more convincing if harry had a darker side, when he got pissed off and actually might kill something once and a while...harry seemed all to sensitive, particularly in the later books, it was more understandable in the earlier installments as he was younger, but you think a 17 year old kid might have a bit more fire in him.....however i do realize it is technically a childrens book...even with all my *****in and complaining i still love all the harry potter books more than any other series