Self-Mutilation as form of body modification/meditation.

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Originally Posted by Haunted

Wow, that's a relief. I do think it's a passing phase, and isn't it great to hear she's fully functional now.

I relate because I'm a minor case of her. I don't cut but I do things that induce blood to "bead" to distract me from the real problems. It started when I was little. It's OCD too.

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I really couldn't say whether it's a passing phase or not. I know (from experience) that if cutters don't get release from cutting then they will need to find it in something else and who knows what that might be? Cutting is a private personal practice and parents may not even know their kids are doing it either. It wasn't till our sweltering summer arrived and she was constantly wearing long sleeved tops that I started to wonder what was wrong and even then I didn't really know. But a smarter friend planted the seed in my head and I took her by surprise one day and yanked up her sleeve and was flabbergasted by the festering wounds.

Haunted I'd say that managing the real problems is always going to be the best long term solution even if it seems tougher than distracting yourself because by avoiding it, the solution tomorrow will be harder than it is today x

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Originally Posted by Delta40

I really couldn't say whether it's a passing phase or not. I know (from experience) that if cutters don't get release from cutting then they will need to find it in something else and who knows what that might be?

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arhh, one has to wonder. If she lives with you, you can pay extra attention to her patterns. Usually there are telltale signs, like long sleeves, as you noted. But if she goes onto something external, like tats or piercings, then I think it's a healthy progression. I will return later to give my position on tats and piercings.

Anyway some problems have no solutions. I can solve problems on a professional level, but no so much my own personal problems. Most have no solutions, only acceptance. I pick what I want to accept, and others just hang around me like a dark cloud x

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Originally Posted by MarkBastable;

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imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as the old saying goes.

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Between flattery and admiration there often flows a river of contempt, as another old saying goes

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Originally Posted by Haunted

arhh, one has to wonder. If she lives with you, you can pay extra attention to her patterns. Usually there are telltale signs, like long sleeves, as you noted. But if she goes onto something external, like tats or piercings, then I think it's a healthy progression. I will return later to give my position on tats and piercings.

Anyway some problems have no solutions. I can solve problems on a professional level, but no so much my own personal problems. Most have no solutions, only acceptance. I pick what I want to accept, and others just hang around me like a dark cloud x

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Between you and me there are some 'problems' not worth solving :smilewinkgrin:

Anyway, no tats, no piercings something alot more wreckless but amazingly enough she got through that too and as devastated as I am, she is clearing the clouds and discovering the underlying issue and in hindsight, I'm a pretty awesome Mum. You know, I really hate those bull**** books on parenting!!! They're of no use whatsoever in the real world :smile5:

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Originally Posted by Haunted

I haven't read the rest of your post and I don't intend to. It's all apologist spiel. BUt let me ask you this: how long have you been active around here? This lady you are defending has been stalking me and harassing me and others since 2009. She violated me many times. DId you read what she just said? "I don't think I've pwned you in over a year!" That's how long she's been on my back, going back years. I couldn't shake her.

I don't think people here have vendetta other than we are provoked. And you, young man, you are hanging out with the wrong crowd.

You came to defend someone like a boy rushing to defend his best buddy and picking a fight with someone who you don'tt know, that's very high school. And you call me childish? Let me say this to you: you didn't attack me by calling me childish, you attacked your own sensibility. Think about that.

As to you latest post, I won't dignify with an reply except that you didn't know the history of abuse from this certain poster. If I were you, I would butt out.

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I've been active are around here, at least off-and-on, since I joined.*

I still find it amusing that I'm being called childish by someone who, out of sheer petulance, decides not to read the rest of someone's post.

Look, I don't want to make some sort of enemy out of you, but don't act like you're above all the pettiness and personal jabs. You're making them too.

And I'm not sorry for defending Juniper. I count her as a good, provocative poster.

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Originally Posted by Delta40

I don't see why the OP's question: *Is self-mutilation a form of body modification? And can or should it be considered a healthy, somewhat meditating, form of retaining more dangerous outlets of negative mental states from manifesting? isn't a respectable enough question for me to address the issues involving self harm in a serious discussion forum. *I also don't see many other posts commenting on it. *

Besides, after reading the exchanges on this thread and others, I'm genuinely reluctant to provide yet another boxing ring for members that appear to do nothing else but thrash out their views at the cost of others for no other reason than having the satisfaction of stomping over other people.

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What cost to others?*

Seriously, I think some around here need to grow some thicker skin.*

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

Seriously, I think some around here need to grow some thicker skin.*

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:smile5: Isn't that like me asking you to become more considerate? :smile5:

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Originally Posted by Delta40

:smile5: Isn't that like me asking you to become more considerate? :smile5:

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As well as others on here being more considerate. Maybe we all could...

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Besides some too-graphic content for this ALL AGES discussion forum in this thread, flaming, trolling and off-topic posts are what get it closed :)