Films with a beautiful, literate script

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

People don't seem to read very well. The McKee's lived in the flat below and the party was likely to break up after Tom Buchanan's physical assault of Myrtle Wilson. Now is it likely that Nick Carraway would indulge in homosexuality with a comparative stranger when the man's wife was likely to come down at any moment?

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Very unlikely- and unlike Nick's character. I think some people may assume the homosexuality part because it is also assumed that Nick did not have sex with Jordan. He didn't have to- it would not make sense in the story, and would be unimportant.

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Originally Posted by KCurtis

Very unlikely- and unlike Nick's character. I think some people may assume the homosexuality part because it is also assumed that Nick did not have sex with Jordan. He didn't have to- it would not make sense in the story, and would be unimportant.

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Although somewhat peripheral, Jordan Baker belonged to the East Egg set and that was the reason that Nick Carraway's relationship with her never really took off. Although distantly related to Daisy, Nick knew that he didn't belong to those
whom she had married into. This was why he instinctively sided with Gatsby and eventually returned to the mid-west after Gatsby's death. The more I read this book, the more I am bowled over by Fitzgerald's writing.

Naked by Mike Leigh. The back and forth dialogue is so real it's uncanny. One of the best films I ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

Although somewhat peripheral, Jordan Baker belonged to the East Egg set and that was the reason that Nick Carraway's relationship with her never really took off. Although distantly related to Daisy, Nick knew that he didn't belong to those
whom she had married into. This was why he instinctively sided with Gatsby and eventually returned to the mid-west after Gatsby's death. The more I read this book, the more I am bowled over by Fitzgerald's writing.

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You're right I didn't think of that when I posted, that also has to do with Nick thinking she was shallow. I really wish Fitzgerald could have written more books.

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

I think a lot of the Coen Brother's films qualify, and I'd agree with Woody Allen.

If Life is Beautiful can be up there, then another foreign marvel is The Lives of Others - a German friend of mine said it was beautifully written.

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I completely agree with The Livers of Others! (Das Leben den Anderen) It is extremely beautiful and moved me to tears.

Another movie worth mentioning will be Let The Right One In (Swedish). It's not only the dialogue, but the setting. Perfect, sublime, and amazing.

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

People don't seem to read very well. The McKee's lived in the flat below and the party was likely to break up after Tom Buchanan's physical assault of Myrtle Wilson. Now is it likely that Nick Carraway would indulge in homosexuality with a comparative stranger when the man's wife was likely to come down at any moment?

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They were drunk, weren't they, so "indulging" doesn't really come into it. Whether there was any "indulging in homosexuality" or not, I doubt there was any concern about who would walk in.

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Originally Posted by kelby_lake

They were drunk, weren't they, so "indulging" doesn't really come into it. Whether there was any "indulging in homosexuality" or not, I doubt there was any concern about who would walk in.

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Walk in on WHAT??? Two drunk guys in an elevator. This elevator talk is so way off the mark. It is really not a significant part of the book. They were at a drunken party- the party was significant. I would like to think that in the movie coming out a year from now, that the director knows this. If he doesn't we are in for a disaster of a flick.

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Originally Posted by kelby_lake

They were drunk, weren't they, so "indulging" doesn't really come into it. Whether there was any "indulging in homosexuality" or not, I doubt there was any concern about who would walk in.

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I think Mr. McKee's wife would have been concerned.

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Originally Posted by KCurtis

Walk in on WHAT??? Two drunk guys in an elevator. This elevator talk is so way off the mark. It is really not a significant part of the book. They were at a drunken party- the party was significant. I would like to think that in the movie coming out a year from now, that the director knows this. If he doesn't we are in for a disaster of a flick.

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I was referring to the old elipses that links the elevator scene with the bedroom bit. Some think it's simply fast-forwarding the action, whereas some think it's the curtains closing on a private moment...

Personally, I think it just adds to the effect of drunkeness. As for how Luhrman will interpret it...it'll probably be a swingers' party or something :lol:

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Originally Posted by kelby_lake

I was referring to the old elipses that links the elevator scene with the bedroom bit. Some think it's simply fast-forwarding the action, whereas some think it's the curtains closing on a private moment...

Personally, I think it just adds to the effect of drunkeness. As for how Luhrman will interpret it...it'll probably be a swingers' party or something :lol:

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I just checked out Luhrmann and he actually looks quite sensible and not some publicity created charlatan. There are a couple of shots from the forthcoming Gatsby. Here's one, it certainly looks more authentic than what I expected.


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7...5galgatzby.jpg

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

I just checked out Luhrmann and he actually looks quite sensible and not some publicity created charlatan. There are a couple of shots from the forthcoming Gatsby. Here's one, it certainly looks more authentic than what I expected.


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7...5galgatzby.jpg

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It's easy to make this look authentic, it's the story telling I'm worried about.

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Originally Posted by KCurtis

It's easy to make this look authentic, it's the story telling I'm worried about.

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Well, according to this, he might simply back out of the project altogether.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment...n.html?_r=true

Here's another shot that looks pretty good. I think they look more like the protagonists than those in other versions. However, it remains to be seen whether Luhrmann finishes the film or not.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4...ysecondpic.jpg

It looks nice but Luhrman is known for glitzy extravagance (borderline camp in some cases).

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Originally Posted by kelby_lake

It looks nice but Luhrman is known for glitzy extravagance (borderline camp in some cases).

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That's a pity because if he managed to curb it he could have the makings of a good film here. Of course, glitzy extravagance are at the heart of the story anyway but there's so much more behind the meretricious surface.

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

That's a pity because if he managed to curb it he could have the makings of a good film here. Of course, glitzy extravagance are at the heart of the story anyway but there's so much more behind the meretricious surface.

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He did a modern interpretation of Romeo and Juliet (with DiCaprio as Romeo) so whatever your view on that is will probably decide your view on what this film will be.