UFOs

Yes we have strayed from UFOs. But as a confirmed skeptic I'm always dissappointed with the believers arguements, they never seem to marshal current Physics theory to their side, relying on "my mates aunty saw a flying saucer once".

I once heard someone explain that, at this point, the most convincing thing that aliens could do would be to parade some enormous hub-cap-looking metal structure slowly overhead as if to say, "Yes, we can even show up in a form you would never believe, that's how powerful and superior we are. Now try to tell your friends, you little being."

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Yes we have strayed from UFOs. But as a confirmed skeptic I'm always dissappointed with the believers arguements, they never seem to marshal current Physics theory to their side, relying on "my mates aunty saw a flying saucer once".

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I don't think many of them made the sixth form. ;)

David Icke's mob is a good example. They go a little further than just seeing flying saucers.

(For goodness' sake do NOT try to find out by reading his site - you'll burn your retinas.)

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Yes we have strayed from UFOs. But as a confirmed skeptic I'm always dissappointed with the believers arguements, they never seem to marshal current Physics theory to their side, relying on "my mates aunty saw a flying saucer once".

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My mate's auntie saw a flying saucer twice.

Did she see one twice, or two once?

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Did she see one twice, or two once?

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I don't remember but she did wear one of these.


http://www.zazzle.co.uk/einstein_ufo...16368051679325

You see that's the problem. Tell your Auntie that E=MC squared greatly limits the chance of interstellar travel. It will have to be done on the back some other more outlandish equation.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

You see that's the problem. Tell your Auntie that E=MC squared greatly limits the chance of interstellar travel. It will have to be done on the back some other more outlandish equation.

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There was a thing on the TV a wee while back where some scientist said, as a remark in passing, that actually it isn't necessary to travel faster than light to achieve rapid interstellar travel. His words were something like "as you approach light-speed, the concept of distance becomes unstable and therefore distance actually shrinks once you start moving that fast."

The comment was, as I say, a throwaway one, and only tangential to the matter of the programme, but the offhand nature of the comment would make me assume that it was accepted fact amongst the scientific community. I don't pretend to understand it myself, and I wish the boffin had gone into greater detail, but there you have it!

Ahh, in-ter-esting. Another route for those pesky Aliens.

It's well known that time slows as you speed up, but I haven't heard of distance shrinking.l

But thinking about it. What is a light year, if time is not a constant?




EDIT: Its just been on the News. They've been visiting Jerusalem .


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ffles-experts/.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Ahh, in-ter-esting. Another route for those pesky Aliens.

It's well known that time slows as you speed up, but I haven't heard of distance shrinking.l

But thinking about it. What is a light year, if time is not a constant?

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Suppose you were riding on a light beam, would it take you any time at all to get anywhere? The people at home might think you've been gone forever, but would you? It seems that that extreme case would be all distance and no time.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

EDIT: Its just been on the News. They've been visiting Jerusalem .


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ffles-experts/.

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Spooky. :alien:

I doubt that it was a secret Israeli drone, because the last thing they would do would be to let it settle over a major shrine for all to see. One thing I did notice was that there appears to be the sound of thunder right at the start of the video so perhaps the light was ball lightning attracted by the spire of the temple.

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

There was a thing on the TV a wee while back where some scientist said, as a remark in passing, that actually it isn't necessary to travel faster than light to achieve rapid interstellar travel. His words were something like "as you approach light-speed, the concept of distance becomes unstable and therefore distance actually shrinks once you start moving that fast."

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Yes, all sorts of things apparently happen as you approach the speed of light, but "approaching" means over 200,000 km per second. At the moment, even using sun-gravity escape velocity would only be in the 20 km/sec range. Hitting a piece of dust at 200,000 km/s would be fatal to any kind of craft, so the distance would be a bit secondary.

:D

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ffles-experts/.

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:smilielol5:

Fancy that being on Fox.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Hitting a piece of dust at 200,000 km/s would be fatal to any kind of craft, so the distance would be a bit secondary.

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Aye, there'd be a splatter of Higgs-Bosons.:p


The Jeruselem thing was either;

A hoax.
Ball lightning.
Something man made.
Something alien (from Mississippi.)

I like how the ITN announcer closed out their segment on the Dome Of The Rock UFO sighting:

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"We are not alone! OR ARE WE...??"

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Some things are not meant to be 'understood', especially in the case of phase shifting

It is an extremely dangerous pursuit and will bring about itchy palms, Asberger's Syndrome and Night Terrors

I know of at least one person who found his head was able to rotate 360 degrees on its axis

Fortunately all methods so far described are not true phasing in the sense you desire

But if you must 'understand' it make sure you're armed

Things you will need:

A a piece of paper (A4 will do)

B a sharpened HB pencil

C a pencil sharpener (to keep that baby sharp!)

D a box of artist quality Faber-Castille rubber erasers


First, take the paper by two corners and raise it to your lips. Blow over the top

Notice that this causes the sheet to lift in a similar fashion to a Boeing 747 wing at takeoff

While still blowing take the pencil and draw a complete sine phase (one peak one trough) on the underside of the paper

Now while still blowing do the same but opposite (one trough one peak) on the top side of sheet

While still blowing take the first rubber eraser and balance it on the tip of your nose

While still blowing take the sharpener and balance it on the end of the eraser

Still blowing firmly grasp the pencil with your left foot and raise it to the ceiling

While still blowing secure purchase of the box of erasers with you right foot To balance it on the end of the pencil

While still blowing declare 'I am enlightened!'

While still blowing you should now resemble a Danish pretzel