And here are some (IMO) ridiculous reasons of why certain books banned:
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And here are some (IMO) ridiculous reasons of why certain books banned:
And here are some (IMO) ridiculous reasons of why certain books banned:
Call of the Wild by Jack London: Too radical
Twelfth Night by Shakespeare: Alternative lifestyle introduction
Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll: Animals should not use human language and should not be put on the same level as humans
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger: Sex scenes, themes of questioning authority, unsuited to age group (oh I'm dying to read this book)
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou : Sexual content, racism, offensive language
What about burning books? I totally disagree. DEBATE IS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (aLWAYS WANTED TO SAY THAT!)
What amazes me most about book burnings (besides the obvious idiocy) is that people will purchase books just to have something to burn.
It seems each time Rowling releases a new HP book, some group somewhere will be shown on the news burning the book. And every time I have seen pictures from an event like this, I always see people pulling pristine, new books from bags that were purchased just for the occasion.
It cannot believe these people will offer financial support to authors and publishers they disapprove of so strongly.
In the late 60s or early 70s,I bought a copy of "The Anarchist Cookbook"because I was told Dr.Timothy Leary had contributed his personal recipe for ACID made out of common kitchen ingriedences and the book was about to be banned!I was neither an anarchist nor an acid freak but thought Leary would be a classic hedonist an the book would be vintage.Well the book didn't get banned and to the few that still remember him he is generaly viewed as the burn out hippy professor!
I had read a "Cookbook "was confiscated from from Nichols that had the method for making a nitrogen,diesel fuel bomb that McVeigh used.Hmm?
Fool, one of the members here, said that many things in The Anarchist Cookbook don't work..What do you think Okmit?
I don't know what didn't work for him?I'm aware of a couple botched attempts to make an explosive that was a mix of melted lard an gasoline that killed a few would be bomb makers.And there was also a recipe that called for skinning a tree toad ,drying the skin,pulverize,mix with a turkish tobacco and smoke for a wild trip that a few never came back home from.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
I think the key is the Cook not the Cookbook.I still can't Bake a Betty Crocker Cake!
Sounds dangerous enough for me...:eek:
Yes, you have a point here..
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I think the key is the Cook not the Cookbook
Is it just me or are they making some of those things up. Also on the subject of burning books- they're just supporting the authors. They burn books- where do they get them? By buying them. To whom do most of the profits go to? The author!!!! What a surprise :eek: (not). The whole idea is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
Banning books is the most awful thing one can do, and I blame the ignorant parents and neoconservatives for it. I read Fahrenheit 451. Do you want to know the real reason why certain books are banned? Because they make you think, and people dont want to think. They want to bury their heads in the sand and leave their children uneducated and brainwashed. The restriction of ideas is a very good start for brainwashing. I read a lot this year, on my own and in school, and I have come to see that literature is probably the greatest lasting human achievement. The perpetuation of ideas has a significant, positive impact on a free society like ours, and once ideas are restricted, we're not free anymore. Most of the books on the banned list (I read the list in Intelligence Report, Spring 2005, published by the Southern Poverty Law Center) were banned because they disagree with the neoconservative, Christian Right ideals. The group of parents are hardly ever the majority, but they fight with volume more than reason, and as such, usually get what they want. Ray Bradbury sums it up nicely yet depressingly in pages 57-62 of the 50th Anniversary Edition of F451
yeah i picked the choice that sounded most annoying "i could careless...i hate books". no i like books and *sarcasm* i think that it helps stop the corruption of children
This poll is loaded. Im the guy who said I like the isea. Not because I want to see good, new, inovative literaute that makes you think banned. However, speaking from experience i know that porn can be very harmful. We all know the bomb recipies can be harmfull too.
I like the idea of banning THESE books and similar atrocities. The poll is loaded because it gives a good reason for the most likely answere within the question.
Of course the books that i wouldn't mind seeing banned are not liturature. If books were to be benned who would have the authority? I wish i could answerre that. We all know that authority would become corrupt or be bribed or be threatened even. Its too abd there has to be evil in the world as well as excelent literture.
I posted this in the Mark Twain Huckleberry Finn "This book is racist" topic
I think that censorship or basically blaming a book for inciting any sort of violence is an ill-aimed panacea.
I think that most `normal' well-adjusted people process some of the more disturbing information/literature/media out there and remain `normal'.
The minority ill-adjusted dysfunctional person will end up doing any number of anti-social acts if they go on living their life without any realisation that they need help, until they end up in jail or something. A book can be a convenient way out I suppose.
Kids who enact `revenge' or violence of some sort on their peers are disturbed and ill-adjusted and need help. They will find guns or violence or whatever else to express their outrage and anger. I think there is not enough prevention in place to staunch such need in the first place. Oh ya, but parents can blame the govt. on how their kids are turning out, blame school system etc.
People start believing that the gov'ts job is to protect them from disturbing things. People start forgetting how to make their own moral and value judgements, they don't have to because the gov't. is thinking for them.
That is disturbing. :)
I think that one has to take into account the premise of a book, why it was written.
Is it a non-fictional instruction manual?
Is it revisionist fiction history?
Is it an autobiographical memoir?
Thankfully there are books being written, even today, that are direct result of the current culture. So that in 100 years from now someone will get an idea of how things were in our time. No it isn't all rainbows and roses :)
You have a point Scher about drawing the line.. but I still think it's more accurate and authentic to have a wide-range of `literature' from any given point in history for future reference. So in Twain's time, what if all his books had been censored and burned and we now don't have an accurate portrayal of African-American history? I don't want my history sanitised, I want to know how wretchedly horrible Hitler was, so hopefully it never happens again.
Children unfortunately have to be exposed to uncomfortable ugly things sooner or later. If I had children of my own, of course my responsibility, I would do my utmost to prepare them for the ugly things in this world that will IMO never go away. At least I can hope that they will then be well-adjusted people armed and ready to deal with such moral and social quandry. Exposure to the dogma and beliefs of religious sects and splinter groups included. ;)
Sweeping things under the rug doesn't make them go away, the accumulation will just trip you up and come back to haunt you. In My Opinion, Your Mileage May Vary.
But Logos, I think that's what all parents do. They prepare their children based on the values and norms they have, which they may consider the best. I think this is because in general, people consider that a child's very first lessons and values come from his/her family members. So parents tend to transfer their norms, knowledge, and values to their children as early as possible. And those are significant to a child's personality and character development.
My mother raised me in Christian values in my childhood, and of course she would expect me to be a good Christian in my future. But when she saw my bookshelves, somewhere in her heart, she must have felt that she has failed in some way.
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Originally Posted by Logos
Banning books is awful, and why would you burn a book?