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That sounds good to me.
I can wait, too. I'm reading The Awakening and collecting my thoughts on "Richard II," and I have plenty of "real life" work to do, too, so waiting a few weeks doesn't bother me. I'm just glad we can find the story online.
Scarlett - I believe you can find all of DH Lawrence's work here: http://gutenberg.net.au/pages/lawren...l#shortstories. Or at least a large part.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissScarlett
How funny, Virgil; You beat me to the draw. I just went to get that link; it's identical to yours, see:Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
http://gutenberg.net.au/pages/lawren...l#shortstories
I had to hunt around the site for it since one place the short stories in limited to about 8. This other page has all of them. I think "Wintery Peacock" is in about the 3rd or 4th collection down.
Edit: if you go to this page there are various ways to download the file or copy the text. I tried the second HTML (zip) download and it worked perfectly.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/22477
Our next short story will be:
Wintry Peacock
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...yPeacock-3.jpg
Literary connection
Two entries from Wikipedia
In late 1917, after constant harassment by the military authorities, Lawrence was forced to leave Cornwall at three days' notice under the terms of the Defence of the Realm Act (DORA). This persecution was later described in an autobiographical chapter of his Australian novel Kangaroo, published in 1923. He spent some months in early 1918 in the small, rural village of Hermitage near Newbury, Berkshire. He then lived for just under a year (mid-1918 to early 1919) at Mountain Cottage, Middleton-by-Wirksworth, Derbyshire, where he wrote one of his most poetic short stories, The Wintry Peacock. Until 1919 he was compelled by poverty to shift from address to address and barely survived a severe attack of influenza.
One of D. H. Lawrence's houses (Mountain Cottage), in which he lived
with Frieda in 1918-19, stands below the B5023 road on the outskirts of
Middleton-by-Wirksworth, approximately 1.5 mile NW of Wirksworth. Lawrence also reputedly spent a lot of time at Woodland Cottage on the opposite side of New Road. While staying in Middleton in the bitter winter of 1918-19, Lawrence wrote the short story A Wintry Peacock (published 1921).
Note: We will start this discussing this story 2 weeks from today. You can all start reading it; maybe jot down some notes or underline in your text. (see previous posts for links to the online text); but please, hold off posting, until all are gathered back here, in 2 weeks time. Thanks! I think you will all enjoy the irony and pastoral, poetic writing in this story. I found it very amusing. As they say "lost in translation.". You will know what I mean after reading this story.
Thank you, Virgil. I did find "Wintry Peacock," but not at that site. Many thanks for directing me to all of Lawrence's stories. They really need to bring out a Collected Works volume for his short stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Thanks to you, too, Janine. The introduction is lovely! :)
Ooh, I'd like to participate! I haven't read any D.H. Lawrence but short stories and I only ran across those when studying for a lit test. I read "The Horse Dealer's Daughter" and "Odour of Chrysanthemums", the only two short stories of his to appear in my Norton Anthology.
Which book should I buy to follow along here?
All the stories we discuss here can be found online. But you could buy the complete short stories of D.H. Lawrence, they come in three volumes. I currently have Volume 1 and 3 I think.
Glad to see you here, Wilde woman. Hope you can participate. The two stories youi mentioned are ones we discussed early on in this thread. You might go back in the pages and view the discussion on each. Both were great stories and wonderful discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilde woman
Getting the right books is the thing. As Dark Muse pointed out, there are three volumes which comprise Lawrence's complete short story set. I just looked on Amazon and you have to buy them second-hand or new at a hefty price. I had Volume 3 myself, for many years, and I had to purchase volumes 1,2 this way - used. There is another book listed with 47 of his stories, but the thing is it does not list which ones they are. If you go back a page here, in this thread, you will see links to the Project Guttenburg site, which has all his story texts available online. You can copy the story out and read it on your computer; that is another option. Good luck, whichever you decide on.
Well, since I am catching the beginning of this story discussion, I am going to participate. Hopefully I won't regret it....
Glad to see you here, too, shortstoryfan; seems this thread was meant for you (user name) and I love your avy - that color of green is amazing - emerald! We decided not to actually start discussing the story until about the 20th of this month. In the meantime, the story is announced a page back, and everyone can start reading it and mull it over and get prepared. I don't think anyone much on this thread (and it has been active for a long time with many pages of comments/discussion) has ever gone away and regretted it. It will be great fun, I guarentee it! Glad to have you here and on the forum. So nice to see some new participants.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstoryfan
Thanks MissScarlett, it is nice to be appreciated.Quote:
Thanks to you, too, Janine. The introduction is lovely!
Wow, this is the most we've ever had for a story. Should be fun. :D
That's what I thought, Virgil. Also, I knew the rooster would arrive soon, if I put the buzz in his ear! ;) :lol:I better get reading it for the upteenth time or maybe it's not necessary. I just have such a poor memory sometimes; might be better to just review the text as I go along...by now I know the story well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
I have not had time to read the story yet, I have been too busy which school. I am going to try to get it done though.
Good, but you still have plenty of time. It's not long at all and you can read it closer to discussion date which is the 20th; it's a fast one to read, and that is coming from me, the 'slow reader'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Muse
Dark Muse luck with your studies!
I've read the story and love it, and I am a slow reader, too. Wish I weren't at times, but at other times, I like to savor a book or story.
Exactly my own thoughts. In high school, you were forced to read quickly or you could not keep up. I think I skimmed most of my books and actually hated reading at the time; I don't recall a novel I read back then. Now I love reading, since I savor each word, passage. There is nothing wrong with 'slow readers' - once we got discussing that on the forum and you would be surprised how many admitted they were slow, so most likely we are the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissScarlett
Hello everyone :D
It's been ages since I posted on litnet...hopefully there are some people who still remember me..lol
What's the new story, Janine? I can't find its name in the pages.
I might join in, just after giving the story a read.
I see Janine's offline now, but she chose "The Wintry Peacock."Quote:
Originally Posted by Nossa
Thanks, MissScarlett for giving Nossa the information. I will repost the introduction since there seems to be a little confusion.
Our next short story will be:
Wintry Peacock
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...yPeacock-3.jpg
Literary connection
Two entries from Wikipedia
In late 1917, after constant harassment by the military authorities, Lawrence was forced to leave Cornwall at three days' notice under the terms of the Defence of the Realm Act (DORA). This persecution was later described in an autobiographical chapter of his Australian novel Kangaroo, published in 1923. He spent some months in early 1918 in the small, rural village of Hermitage near Newbury, Berkshire. He then lived for just under a year (mid-1918 to early 1919) at Mountain Cottage, Middleton-by-Wirksworth, Derbyshire, where he wrote one of his most poetic short stories, The Wintry Peacock. Until 1919 he was compelled by poverty to shift from address to address and barely survived a severe attack of influenza.
One of D. H. Lawrence's houses (Mountain Cottage), in which he lived
with Frieda in 1918-19, stands below the B5023 road on the outskirts of
Middleton-by-Wirksworth, approximately 1.5 mile NW of Wirksworth. Lawrence also reputedly spent a lot of time at Woodland Cottage on the opposite side of New Road. While staying in Middleton in the bitter winter of 1918-19, Lawrence wrote the short story A Wintry Peacock (published 1921).
Note: We will start this discussing this story the 20th of April, Monday. You can all start reading it; maybe jot down some notes or underline in your text. (see previous posts for links to the online text); but please, hold off posting, until all are gathered back here, in 2 weeks time. Thanks! I think you will all enjoy the irony and pastoral, poetic writing in this story. I found it very amusing. As they say "lost in translation.". You will know what I mean after reading this story.
Thank you so much :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MissScarlett
Nossa, now we flipped pages again. My introduction is posted on the page before this. Hope you saw it; it gave some background information on the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nossa
I finally got to read the story and ugh.....I really really really did not like it.
I did not think it was particularly good, I found it really quite pointless, and I am use it will not surprsie anyone that I disliked virtually all of the characaters.
Oh no. I can't find my Lawrence short story volumes. :( I will have to keep looking. Janine, do you know if it's in volume II or III?
I think it's in the one with "England, My England," Virgil. I had the books at school, but no more. :bawling:Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
That's an original collection of stories that Lawrence put out in his life time. His stories were all collected posthumously in three volumes. I was asking which volume Wintry Peacock was in. Both Janine and I have all three volumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissScarlett
Oh, then I do not know, I'm sorry. I wish I did because then I'd have the volumes, too, but I don't.
Virgil, it's in Volume II but the link for the online text is here listed in the thread for Guttenburg...all the short stories are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Dark Muse, if you did not like the story, a simple solution might be for you to merely drop out of the discussion this month, instead of wasting anymore time on a story you don't really care for. Afterall, we can't all have the same tastes in literature. Maybe the next one you will like better. Sorry you did not care for it and felt you wasted your time to read it. Happens to us all from time to time. I liked the story and several others who read it enjoyed it. That is of course personal preference and what makes us all unique beings.
hahaha, is that your way of telling me not to crash the party.
You are probably already anticipating the poetential arguments.
No, I was serious. I am not afraid of potential disagreements or debating at all, but the point is.... and I will requote your post:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Muse
..if I felt this strongly against a story I read, I would simply not waste any more time on it; wouldn't that be advantageous to you? I know I have a lot better things to do then waste my time on novels or stories, I don't really care for. I was being totally honest with you, Dark Muse. You said "I really really really" did not like it. I you expressed yourself pretty explicitly, which is good. We are not all going to like the same stories.Quote:
ugh.....I really really really did not like it.
I did not think it was particularly good, I found it really quite pointless, and I am use it will not surprsie anyone that I disliked virtually all of the characaters.
I was only teasing, becasue I know I have been difficult in the past particuarly about certain characters
No, Dark Muse, I didn't know you were teasing. My thoughts on it were that when posting something so emphatically negative prior to the discussion, the newer participants may lose interest in attempting this story. I have taken considerable time to direct newcomers to this thread recently. Others have told me they did like this story (you know it's never easy to pick one), so it's good to keep judgemental or difficult opinions to one's self, until the discussion really gets rolling; otherwise, there is a lot of confusion. If I read a Poe story, came into the thread before the discussion began, and said I 'hated it, it was an awful story' I don't think you would take kindly to my remarks either. I hope you understand where I am coming from on this. I would just like to give others the chance to judge the story on their own. The formal discussion does not start until next Monday since Virgil requested that date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Muse
I think a person ought to be able to judge a story on thier own no matter what another persons perosnal opinon is. We are all inteligent people here I presume. I do not think me having an aversion to the story is going to affect someone elses ablity to judge for themselves. The kind of person that just follows the opinions of others would not make for very engaging discussion anyway.
Thank you, Janine, I did see it :D. And I'll start reading the story today hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
I hope you like as much as I did, Nossa. I found it delightful in several different ways. I get into why more once the discussion begins. :)
Why you are welcome,Nossa,...glad to see you here and able to participate. I always love to read your posts. I have missed you lately around the forum; maybe we have just been on different threads. Enjoy your reading!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nossa
MissScarlett, I found it delightful variously, as well; will be interested in reading your comments. I can't wait now for the discussion. It's always fun; we have been idle here (this thread) for too long. It will be good to get back to discussing Lawrence.Quote:
I hope you like as much as I did, Nossa. I found it delightful in several different ways. I get into why more once the discussion begins.
...and Quark, Chekhov too, in the near furture!
I propose putting this discussion off one day; I am not feeling well today; also, I need to go to an important meeting tonight. It is raining here and pretty miserable. Tomorrow/tomorrow evening would be best for me. I will be better prepared. Hope you understand and don't mind the delay. It really can't be helped. Thanks all!
Well, what do we do now that MissS is gone? I still can't find my edition and putting this off a few days would be a nice idea.
Ok, let's do that. Nossa emailed me that she could not do this story this month either. I am thrown off-beat myself; so lets plan on starting by the weekend. I will post something Friday night. Sorry everyone for the delay. Virgil, you seem to lose everything! Can't you just read the story from the Guttenburg site online? When I post sections of text, you can better review them and comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Maybe I can catch up and jump in here...I've wanted to read something to discuss...
Where are you guys at...and maybe this week I can start reading...