Thank you Haven.
I googled a little bit and yes it does sound interesting.
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"It is better to be hurt by the truth than comforted by a lie" The Kite Runner
The Wild Palms by William Faulkner.Quote:
...I learned what I had read in books but I never had actually believed: that love and suffering are the same thing and that the value of love is the sum of what you have to pay for it and any time you get it cheap you have cheated yourself.
He bowed gravely, jabbed his forefinger three times at the books and winked. But as he left the room he said gently, "I've allowed you to fire me, Mr Hale. Now you do one thing for me. Read the essay again and discover the true love your son holds for the missionaries. Only a mind steeped in true love can write irony. The others write satire."
~from Hawaii The essay referred to was written by a descendant of the Hawaiian missionaries who tried to "reconstruct the actual conditions under which [his] forebears struggled against the sea" in their long journey from Boston around Cape Horn and to Hawaii.
Thats right I'm finally reading The Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking. I really liked the engaging tone of Hawking in this book, and the wit with which he made this book a quality-read.
Quote:
...The concept of time has no meaning before the beginning of the universe. This was first pointed out by St. Augustine. When asked: What did God do before he created the universe? Augustine didn't reply: He was preparing Hell for people who asked such questions. Instead he said that time was a property of the universe that God created, and that time did not exist before the beginning of the universe. ...
"Words! Mere words!
How terrible they were! How clear, and vivid, and cruel! One could
not escape from them. And yet what a subtle magic there was in them!
They seemed to be able to give a plastic form to formless things,
and to have a music of their own as sweet as that of viol or of lute.
Mere words! Was there anything so real as words?"
-The Picture of Dorian Gray, which I finally got around to reading
Some quotations I like from Don Quixote:
"For I would have you know, Sancho, that a mouth without molars is like a mill without a stone, and a tooth is more precious than a diamond."
Said by Don Quixote: "That is why I say that the sage I mentioned has put it into your thoughts and into your mouth to call me now The Knight of the Sad Countenance, a name which I intend to use from this day on; and to make it fit me better, I intend to have a very sad countenance painted on my shield when I have an opportunity....."
Said by Sancho: "'There's no need to waste time and money on painting a face,' said Sancho. 'Your worship has only to uncover your own and shot it to anyone who looks at you, and they'll call you The Knight of the Sad Countenance all right, without any picture or shield, and that's the truth.'"
DUKE
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For women are as roses, whose fair flower
Being once displayed, doth fall that very hour.
VIOLA
And so they are. Alas that they are so:
To die, when they to perfection grow.
Act II, Scene iv, Lines 36 - 39 => Twelfth Night – Shakespeare.
"Your memory is a monster; you forget - it doesn't. It simply files things away. It keeps things for you, or hides things from you - and summons them to your recall with a will of its own. You think you have a memory; but it has you!"
From A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving
"The offing was barred by a black bank of clouds, and the tranquil waterway leading to the uttermost ends of the earth flowed sombre under an overcast sky- seemed to lead into the heart of an immense darkness."
Heart of Darkness, Joseph Conrad.
Catcher...stick with Heart of Darkness. It is a tough read but nice to get through.
From The Ivory Child by Haggard
"We spoke but little during all this time. It was as though the silence of the wilderness had got hold of us and sealed our lips. Or perhaps each of us was occupied with his own thoughts. At any rate I know that for my part I seemed to live in a kind of dreamland, thinking of the past, reflecting much upon the innumberable problems of this passing show called life, but not paying much heed to the future. What did the future matter to me, who did not know whether I should have a share of it even for another month, or week, or day, surrounded as I was by the shadow of death? No, I troubled little as to any earthly future, although I admit that in this oasis of calm I reflected upon that state where past, present and future will all be one; also that those reflections, which were in their essence a kind of unshaped prayer, brought much calm to my spirit."
Hatsue ~ It is just like before when we lived up north!
Prisoner ~ No. Then there were no bars to separate us and no guard watching my every move.
(how romantic, the prisoner wrongly accused still cares for his wife and children)
(Snow Falling on Cedars)
All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths, and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lin’d,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper’d pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well sav’d, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
Jaques, As You Like It, Act II, Scene vii, Lines 139 – 166 –– Shakespeare
From Cat's Cradle:
While Miss Faust and I waited for an elevator to take us to the first floor, Miss Faust said she hoped the elevator that came would not be number five. Before I could ask her why this was a reasonable wish, number five arrived.
Its operator was a small and ancient Negro whose name was Lyman Enders Knowles. Knowles was insane, I'm almost sure - offensively so, in that he grabbed his own behind and cried, "Yes, yes!" whenever he felt that he'd made a point.
"Hello, fellow anthropoids and lily pads and paddlewheels," he said to Miss Faust and me. "Yes, yes!"
"First floor, please," said Miss Faust coldly.
All Knowles had to do to close the door and get us to the first floor was to press a button, but he wasn't going to do that yet. He wasn't going to do it, maybe, for years.
"Man told me," He said, "that these here elevators was Mayan architecture. I never knew that till today. And I says to him, 'What's that make me - mayonnaise?' Yes, yes! And while he was thinking that over, I hit him with a question that straightened him up and made him think twice as hard! Yes, yes!"
"Could we please go down, Mr. Knowles?" begged Miss Faust.
"I said to him," said Knowles, " 'This here's a research laboratory. Re-search means look again, don't it? Means they're looking for something they found once and it got away somehow, and now they got to re-search for it? How come they got to build a building like this, with mayonnaise elevators and all, and fill it with all these crazy people? What is it they're trying to find again? Who lost what? Yes, yes!"
"That's very interesting," sighed Miss Faust. "Now, could we go down?"
"Only way we can go is down," barked Knowles. "This here's the top. You ask me to go up and wouldn't be a thing I could do for you. Yes, yes!"
"So let's go down," said Miss Faust.
"Very soon now. This gentleman here been paying his respects to Dr. Hoenikker?"
"Yes," I said. "Did you know him?"
"Intimately," he said. "You know what I said when he died?"
"No."
"I said, 'Dr. Hoenikker - he ain't dead.'"
"Oh?"
"Just entered a new dimension. Yes, yes!"
He punched a button, and down we went.
"Did you know the Hoenikker children?" I asked him.
"Babies full of rabies," he said. "Yes, yes!"
I am currently reading "iTV" by David Rose. It takes place in a television and the reader is flipping through the different channels as the main character is revealed. 2 favorite quotes (so far). 1 is when David, the main character, is reminded of his 1st love coming out of the shower:
"he was watching television and Zoe came out of the shower...David once wrote that civilization was a louse's fart in comparison to Zoe coming out of the shower...she had that sweet smelling shampoo...it was honey and mango...she was standing there wrapped in her big white towel her hair still wet...David told her terrorists could be raping his mother and he wouldn't give a rat's *** because of the way she looked..."
The second one is a joke: "The bible, the Roman Empire and the Oedipus Complex are walking into a bar. -Excuse me, says the Roman Empire, do you know how many commandments there are? - I have no idea, says the Oedipus Complex, but why don't you ask the bible?"
That's it for now, I highly recommend this book. It is the most original work I have read in ages.
Another one of those moments where Vonnegut shines through his play of words and sense of irony.
Cat's Cradle:
"One time," said Castle, "when I was about fifteen, there was a mutiny near here on a Greek ship bound from Hong Kong to Havana with a load of wicker furniture. The mutineers got control of the ship, didn't know how to run her, and smashed her up on the rocks near "Papa" Monzano's castle. Everybody drowned but the rats. The rats and the wicker furniture came ashore."
That seemed to be the end of the story, but I couldn't be sure. "So?"
"So some people got free furniture, and some people got bubonic plague. At Father's hospital, we had fourteen hundred deaths inside ten days. Have you ever seen anyone die of bubonic plague?"
"That unhappiness has not been mine."
"The lymph glands in the groin and the armpits swell to the size of grapefruit."
"I can well believe it."
"After death, the body turns black-coals to Newcastle in the case of San Lorenzo. When the plague was having everything its own way, the House of Hope and Mercy in the Jungle looked like Auschwitz or Buchenwald. We had stacks of dead so deep and wide that a bulldozer actually stalled trying to shove them toward a common grave. Father worked without sleep for days, worked not only without sleep but without saving many lives, either."
Castle's grisley tale was interrupted by the ringing of my telephone.
"My God," said Castle, "I didn't even know the telephones were connected yet."
I picked up the phone. "Hello?"
Currently reading: Demian
Author: Herman Hesse
"Genuine communion," said Demian, "is a beautiful thing. But what we see flourishing everywhere is nothing of the kind. The real spirit will come from the knowledge that separate individuals have of on another and for a time it will transform the world. The community spirit at present is only a manifestation of the herd instinct. Men fly into each other's arms because they are afraid of each other--the owners are for themselves, the workers for themselves, the scholars for themselves! And why are they afraid? You are only afraid if you are not in harmony with yourself. People are afraid because they have never owned up to themselves. A whole society composed of men afraid of the unknown within them! They all sense that the rules they live by are no longer valid, that they live according to archaic laws--neither their religion nor their mortality is in any way suited to the needs of the present."
Being partially off-topic (As this is the book which I just finished yesterday and am not reading now). But couldn't resist quoting it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sons and Lovers
"Where I am, I don't know, I'll never know, in the silence you don't know, you must go on, I can't go on, I'll go on"
Samuel Beckett, The Unnamable
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"When I've made up my mind that I can't afford to buy a tempting dog, I take no notice of him, because if he took a strong fancy to me and looked lovingly at me, the struggle between arithmetic and inclination might become unpleasantly severe. I pique myself on my wisdom there, Arthur, and as an old fellow to whom wisdom had become cheap, I bestow it upon you."
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But one of the lessons a woman most rarely learns is never to talk to an angry or a drunken man.
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When death, the great Reconciler, has come, it is never our tenderness that we repent of, but our severity.
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"Why, yes, a man can't very well steal a bank-note unless the bank-note
lies within convenient reach; but he won't make us think him an honest
man because he begins to howl at the bank-note for falling in his way."
"But surely you don't think a man who struggles against a temptation
into which he falls at last as bad as the man who never struggles at all?"
"No, certainly; I pity him in proportion to his struggles, for they foreshadow the inward suffering which is the worst form of Nemesis. Consequences are unpitying. Our deeds carry their terrible consequences, quite apart from any fluctuations that went before--consequences that are hardly ever confined to ourselves. And it is best to fix our minds on that certainty, instead of considering what may be the elements of excuse for us.
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"Ah, to be sure," said Mrs. Poyser, emphatically, "you make but a poor
trap to catch luck if you go and bait it wi' wickedness.
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"Ah," said Mrs. Poyser, "an' it's poor work allays settin' the dead
above the livin'. We shall all on us be dead some time, I reckon--it 'ud
be better if folks 'ud make much on us beforehand, i'stid o' beginnin'
when we're gone. It's but little good you'll do a-watering the last year's crop."
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"the smell o' bread's sweet t' everybody but the baker.
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"… if we stay, it's for our own worldly interest, and it looks as if we'd put up with anything for the sake o' that. I know that's what they'll feel, and I can't help feeling a little of it myself. When folks have got an honourable independent spirit, they don't like to do anything that might make 'em seem base-minded."
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It would be a poor result of all our anguish and our wrestling if we won nothing but our old selves at the end of it-- Let us rather be thankful that our sorrow lives in us as an indestructible force, only changing its form, as forces do, & passing from pain into sympathy—
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"Said? Nay, she'll say nothin'. It's on'y the men as have to wait till
folks say things afore they find 'em out."
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"I'm not one o' those as can see the cat i' the dairy an' wonder what she's come after."
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"Ah!" said Bartle sneeringly, "the women are quick enough-they're quick enough. They know the rights of a story before they hear it, and can tell a man what his thoughts are before he knows 'em himself."
"Like enough," said Mrs. Poyser, "for the men are mostly so slow, their thoughts overrun 'em, an' they can only catch 'em by the tail. I can count a stocking-top while a man's getting's tongue ready an' when he outs wi' his speech at last, there's little broth to be made on't. It's your dead chicks take the longest hatchin'. Howiver, I'm not denyin' the women are foolish: God Almighty made'em to match the men."
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From Nam-A-Rama:
When Gearheardt was seated next to him, a cold Lone Star in hand, the President put one arm around his shoulder and with his other arm made a sweeping motion past all of the dark-suited men arguing heatedly around the table.
"Know what these boys are figuring out, son?"
"I don't believe so, Mr President."
"Call me Larry Bob, son. Saves a lot of time when you're talking to me. All that President this and President that. Slows down a good confab. Just call me Larry Bob and I'll tell you when to stop." He squeezed Gearheardt's shoulder and withdrew his arm.
"These sons-a-*****es are figuring up how much it's gonna cost to run this damn Veetnam war deal. Some of the smartest boys in the U.S., right here at this table." He looked at him as if expecting a comment.
"I guess they're trying to calculate the budget for the war, Larry Bob. Is that right?"
"Yep, pretty close. These boys are trying to figure how much they can make off it. See that gray-haired feller with the yellow tie? Builds airports. Want to put military airfields in every Veetnam city that has more'n about two thousand people. Feller next to him is a concrete guy. Over there"-he pointed his long finger-"feller builds ships and is lobbying for us to give some battleships to Veetnam so we can have ourselves a sea battle like we ain't seen since the Big One. I think that little skinny feller is a tire man, but I ain't sure. And, oh yeah, you'll love this one, that fat tub-o'-lard is in the medical supply business. Lookit that possum-eatin' grin on his face. Already made himself a deal with the Rooskies so he can supply both sides."
"Is that legal, Larry Bob?" Gearheardt asked.
"It is if I say so," the President replied.
"You suppose I could have another Lone Star, Larry Bob?"
"I reckon you can. Don't get too familiar with that 'Larry Bob' ****. You're still just a damn Marine." The President signaled by raising his hand, and one of his aides ran over with a beer. He began to whisper in the President's ear. Something about Congress and naked women in the Oval Office. The President excused himself and left the room, carrying one shoe.
Gearheardt sipped his beer and inspected his surroundings. There was no other furniture in the room except for the conference table surrounded by leather swivel chairs and simpler chairs, evidently for aides, behind them. The ceiling was low, there were no windows. Bright lighting hung over the conference table, leaving the edges of the room in near darkness. Each of the four walls had a door. Gearheardt guessed the room was about twenty-five feet square. He had expected to be in a "war room" with maps, electronic gizmos, telephones, televisions, and transparent boards with greased penciled aircraft filling every available space. This room was important without looking important, Gearheardt decided.
He tried to concentrate on the conversations going on at the table. They were of little interest to him, but he knew that he was in the presence of America's greatest businessmen. When he tuned in they were speaking in a language that he did not recognize.
"...short-term returns, my ***. I've got shareholders, you know. You build up faster than I can ramp up, and I'll have to charge the Army double or triple margins." The man, who sounded angry, actually smiled. He was the "tire" guy, Gearheardt remembered the President saying.
"Well, somebody needs to remind old Slickhair that the Street doesn't like surprises near year end. We need to manage the action on a quarterly basis, with the military placing their estimates when it allows my planning boys to get the best spin. Couldn't we allocate the Army on a quarterly basis? If they run out of ammunition near the end of the month, that's their problem. If they see there's going to be a surplus, surely a few big battles can be scheduled without a lot of hoopla. Just to burn up the excess. I would think a quota for each soldier, say 500 bullets a month he needs to shoot, wouldn't be unreasonable."
A skinny young guy that Gearheardt hadn't noticed before popped up near the end of the table. He was wearing heavy black-rim glasses and a gray suit. He waved a tablet of paper wildly.
"TEN YEARS," he yelled.
There was a great deal of consternation around the table.
"Ten years?" asked the medical supply king.
"Hell, I'll be living on a golf course in Florida in less than year," the concrete man mused to no one in particular.
"You gentlemen asked me to calculate how long the war had to last in order to get over the fifteen percent hurdle rate. It works out, on the average industry investment that you gave me, to a seventeen percent internal rate of return, again on average, if the war lasts ten years and the average soldier shoots three times his weight in bullets, the enemy shoots down an average of three helicopters and two fighters a day, and the soldiers generally ruin any equipment in their possession in, again on the average, ninety days."
The room was quiet while the businessmen doodled on pads that had been placed in front of them and conferred with aides, who now leaned in with earnest brows. The mumbling was subdued...
More later(?)
If only it could be one thing or the other: let him fall into a real fever or let his aching joints ease up.
from One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solhenitsyn
The last sentence on the page of text prefacing the beginning of Michael Ondaatje's new novel Divisadero ~ "For I have taken myself away from who I was with them, and what I used to be. When my name was Anna."
I was reading on the train this morning, and felt very guilty, when I had to cut at page 37, but I could not very well miss my stop... So far, the book has all of the atmosphere of time and place, and poetic narrative cadence, of Ondaatje's previous novels. Taking the passage quoted above into consideration, the book so far appears to relate most closely to The English Patient.
"She has claws all over her, you don't know how to get at her."
-Père Ubu, about Mère Ubu
"Francisco, what's the most depraved type of human being?"
"The man without a purpose."
--Quite possibly my favorite quotation of Ayn Rand, taken from "Atlas Shrugged."
The first three pages of I, Zombie:
I remember how the bottom of the lake looked as I was drowning. The thought of being buried in the mud frightened me more than the sensation of suffocating. My throat was jammed shut so that no water could go down but I wasn't thinking about air. I could feel my heart slow where at first it had thundered and leaped against my ribs as if it were trying to escape what was happening to it. It couldn't and neither could I. After a while I relaxed and drifted with the cold current while silence came to put me to sleep.
Funny how that nightmare was with me when I woke up in the cargo bound for Land's End. I apologized to Fry for being on top of the pile, not that I could help the way they stacked us in the crate, but she was in a snit and wouldn't respond to me.
Thoughts of death and life were in my mind, disturbing me, so I concentrated on the creaking and swaying cargo. My head felt strange, as if one piece of my brain were in a kind of trance while the other, smaller portion bellowed in terror and tried to attract attention. I didn't know which piece was me. Maybe both, maybe neither.
The packs were implanted in our brains on Earth so that all the driver had to do was think what he wanted us to do. Quidler got us moving as soon as the ship landed in the cradle. The compound was short of workers and had been waiting for the four of us for .... I don't know, a long time, I guess.
Frye began squirming beneath me so I told her to take it easy and wait a minute until I rolled over and opened the lid. Inside of me the little piece of brain was doing a lot of yelling, as if it were scared and not sure of what was happening.
I shoved the lid too hard and broke the hinges. Frye came out behind me and I stuck out my hand and said "Hi." I knew the difference between someone it was okay to talk to and someone it wasn't. Frye, LeMay, and Zottinger were big dumb bunnies without much personality and not enough looks to make me feel self-conscious, so I felt right at ease with them, even when they ignored my greeting and didn't say anything back to me.
Land's End was a world of ice and snow, oases, aliens, factories, people who made me nervous and Peterkin.
"Move it, dum-dums!" said Quidler in a tone that said he was bored out of his mind. He gave me a particularly unfriendly stare as I walked down the ramp from the ship and I knew right away I wasn't going to get along with him. He was one of those insecure people who took an instant dislike to me because I was so big. About five-ten, he was contemptuous of tall women, especially tall and muscular women. Back on Earth at the institution for hopeless cases, an acquaintance told me men liked muscles on women so I took up body building. I found out later she was no friend. Men didn't like muscled women, big women, or freak women. They liked cute little icebergs like Bates.
We were taken to the ground in an elevator, then for a couple of hours we stood on a motorized sled that slid over miles of gray ice until finally we arrived at the compound.
No sooner did we march into our quarters, which was a room fifteen by fifteen, than Zottinger climbed on a chair, slung his belt up over a ceiling beam, buckled it around his neck and did a jig in midair.
Frye selected one of the lower bunks while LeMay chose the other lower, at about the time I was sitting down on it. I threw her out so she climbed onto the bed above me. There were just bare springs and naked matresses. Lying down, I looked up at the rusty metal and knew I could never endure such a view for very long. "Get out," I said. "I've changed my mind. I want that bunk you're on."
LeMay's head appeared over the side and she gave me a steady stare with her coaly eyes.
"No lip," I said. "I want us to be friends but I'll never take lip from anybody ever again. I have to have the top bunk."
We traded places and by and by the place settled down. The only noise was the creaking of Zott's belt as he hung swaying from the rafter.
"They want to freeze me to death," I said. "Are you cold?" LeMay didn't answer so I kicked the wall until she did. No, she wasn't cold.
Quidler and Peterkin came down the hall, looked in and saw Zott, came in cursing and got him down from the rafter.
"When the stiffs go nuts then the whole place is nuts," said Quidler. "How do you account for this?"
"How should I know? This whole business is unnatural so why should any particular part of it seem weird?"
Quidler cut Zott's belt with a knife and allowed the body to drop to the floor. "Maybe he isn't really dead."
"You're always saying that! He's dead!"
"Sure, now that he's hanged himself. He's probably been up there for hours. I wonder why his pack didn't shut down?"
"I suppose the belt wasn't that tight around his neck and he was getting some air."
Hauling Frye onto the floor, Quidler laid Zott on her bunk.
"Why did you do that?" said Peterkin. "Do you think maybe he feels bad and should be made a little comfortable?"
"I'm messed up, okay? I admit it. I can't bear the thought that one of these days they're going to send us a live one."
...
From A History of the End of the World by Jonathan Kirsch. A book about the Book of Revelation. The first two sentences.
"I know the ending," goes the slogan on a license-plate frame that can be spotted here and there on the streets and highways of America. "God wins."
From "Les Miserables":
"What is said about men often has as much influence upon their lives, and sepcially upon their desitinies, as what they do." (Page 11)
"Great grief is a divine and terrible radiance which transfiguresthe wretched." (Page 122)
"No one ever keeps a secret so well as a child." (Page 329)
Those are a few. When I read more, I'll post them.
"It's bulletproof, like my wife, and impregnable. Not like my wife."
- Demon Theory
this is one of my favorite quotes from the estepary wolve by herman hesse
"at nights I dream of him sometimes, And deep down I feel disturbed, upset on his cause, by the mere existance of such a human being, even when I grew to have true affection for him"
Virtue itslef turns vice, being misapplied;
And vice sometime's by action dignified.
Frair Laurence , Romeo And Juliet, Act II,scene iii ,W.Shakespeare
... you can't really be strong until you can see a funny side to things.
from Ken Kesey's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
~from Tears of the Giraffe
The maid glanced at her employer. "Oh, you have heard of me," she said. "I am glad that he speaks of me. I would not like to think that nobody speaks of me."
"No," said Mma Ramotswe. "It is better to be spoken of than not to be spoken of. Except sometimes, that is." :p
From A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin:
"Wait. Manhood is patience. Mastery is nine times patience." - Ogion
"Ged, have you never thought how danger must surround power as shadow does light?" - Ogion
"I know not yet what I shall sing;
I only know the song is there."
from The Portable Twentieth-Century Russian Reader: Recollections of Leo Tolstoy, Maxim Gorky.
Taken from chapter 4 of The Fountainhead, by Ayn Rand. Architect Guy Francon is reading a review on his recent work in the August edition of New Frontier. His new understudy Peter Keating is watching him as he reads:
Quote:
Francon was smiling over the article, reading it again. Keating had never seen him so pleased; no drawing in the office, no work accomplished had ever made him as happy as these words from another man on a printed page to be read by other eyes.
From Harvest Home by Thomas Tryon
"What no man may know, nor woman tell."