Oh yeah, Aethelred was a bit of a wimp alright http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iwDMLZlkiM heheheheQuote:
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Oh yeah, Aethelred was a bit of a wimp alright http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iwDMLZlkiM heheheheQuote:
Originally Posted by kev67
Presidential cage fighting and medieval kingly smackdown. Does it get any better?
If we could open it up to the Spaniards, I’m going to put my money on Hernán Cortés. He was smart, cool headed, and totally ruthless. He sailed out of Cuba a mere 12 hours before the viceroy was to arrest him (meaning he couldn’t go back). Sailed to and discovered Mexico, claimed it for the King of Spain (brilliantly cutting out the aforementioned viceroy back in Havana). Traveled across land and made contact with the Aztec Empire. Became a guest of Montezuma in their Capitol city of Tenochtitlan (psst! He was casing the joint). Left and then returned with a handful Spaniards and bunch of natives who were pissed at the Aztecs – and destroyed the Aztec Empire, renaming Tenochtitlan Mexico City, and showing the world what a conquistador with an attitude was capable of.
It may be an oversight not to consider the Danish Kings of England. I reckon One-in-the-eye Harold would be pretty handy. However, for me It's the Plantagenets all the way.
If we're going non royal Spanish how about El Cid.
(Whispers to Fifth) I'll try and work in a mention of Charles (King of Bling) the II, then we can post the clip.
I watched the The King in the Car Park last night. I agree that woman was a bit daft, but you have to credit her for pushing the project through and raising the money for the dig. I found the bone expert woman a little annoying too. Simon Farnaby was a bit more sympathetic than when he is playing Death in Horrible Histories. His tag line "Stupid deaths, stupid deaths, they're funny coz they're. Stupid deaths, stupid deaths, let's hope next time it's not you." Then he pokes fun at how people managed to get themselves killed before he lets them pass onto the afterlife. Did anyone else remark how similar the facial reconstruction was to Laurence Olivier's portrayal of him?
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On the basis that someone mentioned the Aztecs:
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(thanks Sancho - though wasn't Cortez aided by disease in his 'campaign' against the Aztecs) this of course brings to mind the following little number http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBCjFlYVHls
and also reminds us of those other great South American race the Incas in which case surely we must mentioned Patchacuti, who would probably have kicked Cortez's bottom which leads neatly on to this little number... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51aHb_U8Zr0
and let's not forget the Roman Emperor smackdown, which has already been solved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Nh-zSMzqo
There were three great empires in Central and South America: the Aztecs and the Incas sandwiched the Mayans.
No doubt, a lot of things came together in the conquistador's favor, including the confusion for the Aztecs surrounding the end of time on their calendar. < That's a bad description; the Aztec calendar is circular, like the circle if life, like the seasons, but at the top of their calendar when everything regenerates, there are some unknowns. And that's when Cortes showed up, in full armor, on a massive armored horse, with huge war dogs (mastiffs, I think). The Aztecs didn't even think he was human. It's possible they thought, well this is it, I reckon. Turns out it was.
At any rate Cortes was stone cold, vastly out numbered, and fighting on somebody else's turf.
It occurs to me, though, that we're going down a slippery slope if we list every badass in history.
Gengis Khan. Haha, whoops.
Ah well, since we’ve already gone down this road, I feel pretty good about Hernán Cortés against any three guys in a cage match or an Octagon smack down.
“In this corner we have The Master of Disaster, Conqueror of the Aztec Empire, fighting with the Sangre de Christo, El Luchador, Everybody make some noise for The Mexi-Cannon, Hernán Cortés!
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Ok its conspiracy theory time.
1/ A letter in the Independent from some bloke, said that the mitochondrial DNA of the skeleton could match that of most of the people in Liecester at that time.
2/ The bones had definite female characteristics.
3/ The carbon dating was wrong initially, untill adjusted for a high shell fish diet. How can we be sure what his/her diet was?
4/ Leicester Council spent £1000,000 on their preparations BEFORE the results of the DNA came through, possibly putting presure on -
5/ Leicester University who had also committed significant resources to the project and they were the sole arbiters of the is it, or isn't it Richard question.
6/ There was an overwhelming desire for it to be Richard, even the the scientists may not have been immune to this.
7/ There has been no peer reveiw of the academic conclusions.
Musicology would be proud of me.
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They sound like reasonable objections. However it would have been a rare woman with those sort of battle injuries.Quote:
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I wondered about the mitochondrial DNA. It is inherited mostly unchanged down the female line except for mutations that are assumed to occur at a constant rate. I would have thought a lot of people could have very similar DNA, but that Richard's great-great nephew mitochondrial DNA might not be exactly the same due to mutation. I don't know much about it though.
I wondered about the shellfish diet too. It would be fair to assume a royal would eat more meat than a peasant from those days, but shellfish? I suppose York is close to the sea.
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That spine looked a bit alien to me, an all.
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Joan of Arc ?Quote:
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Historical records indicate that she met her…ruin in Rouen, but some contend that her bones were not reduced to ashes.
Is it possible that this “French toast” found her way under the Leicester car park?
The spine is from France which explains your alien appearance.
“Rouen” might explain the “R” marking.
Hmm you've got the idea there Gilliat. The important thing is never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
I couldn't help noticing that the leader of project car park looked suspiciously like Henry VIII - perhaps a decendant? Could the whole thing be another scurrilous Tudor Plot - the ultimate indignity heaped upon Richard, having him usurped even in death by a crook- backed woman.
Well you know the rhyme:
Richard of York gave battle in vain.
They said it was Bosworth so....