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Originally Posted by Delta40
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Excellent. :hurray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta40
Yes - brilliant. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta40
I've been having this thought the entire time, but...
Um, ok, I'll try to put it as simple as I can. Drinking is bad, so is drugs, smoking and all the other wacky other stuff. People who do those things actually know (and probably got sick of hearing others telling them) how bad they 'can' get if they go on. But they still go on, why?
I've gone along the latest posts about the desire of Death, but that doesn't really give me a satisfying answer. If you're so into Death, why use the slow methods? Just stick a knife in your brain, heart or eye and be done with it. You'll be meeting your sweet Death faster that way.
Ok, jokes aside (horrible ones at that,) why do we keep consuming those things? It's like we know the bad effects but find pleasure in them.
I've had this thought about the human race being rotten, but this is outrageous. =/
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Originally Posted by Monamy
Because addiction simply doesn't have an off switch.
Especially with harder drugs like coke. It's a nice thought, but it takes at least a year after use for an addict's natural supply of dopamine to return. Dopamine being the reason you can be happy.
Most addicts don't do drugs to get high, or to feel good. But to feel normal, and really to be normal. Because of how drugs work, it replaces the natural supply of those drugs with a third party source in which you become dependent on.
You know there's a distinction between addiction and recreation, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monamy
I'm not one to talk since I never consumed any kind of drug nor drank any kind of alcoholic beverage, so I can't elaborate anything. But I've seen two different examples of people trying to quit. One example was simply successful in his first try, the other claimed the failure of his zillion time to do so. I thought maybe the other lacked the will to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolte
After reading your post, maybe I know little about addicted people and made a quick assumption.
I'm sorry, but didn't get what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf
She means, just because you sleep with a girl it does not mean you have to marry her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monamy
(;'_') ... u-umm... what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander III
huh ok, let me try again, ok I see you are from Bahrain so let me try a better analogy. It is like when all those crazy americans on fox news think that just because a person is a muslim that they must a terrorist. Just as there are many ways to read and understand the Quran, the same applies to drug use. Just because one is a muslim, does not mean he is a terrorist. Only ignorant people think that. You see the point I am making here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monamy
And the drug/religious analogy is not at all a bad one, as the mystic and spiritual natures overlap.
Good Analogy AlexQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexander III
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Or we can simply say that Juniper means that some people use drugs occasionally in small amounts so that they do not get addicted to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonywalt
You would think most people would understand that, but in my experience when people are ignorant in a certain aspect such as on drug use, their opinions always tend to be in black and white, and it does not matter how much your try to reason with them their opinions remain black and white. So the best way is to make an analogy to a subject which they are knowlagble in and see that just as they would think that the subject they are knowlagble in is only seen by ignorant people as black or white they too might see that the subject in which they are ignorant in too may just not be as simple as black or white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
I know the world would be easier if common sense was common but, common sense only comes with experience, and unless one has had experience in a subject they will lack common sense on it.
Like me, I used to think literature was just for dull people who did not know how to live in life so they resorted to it in books. Then I read a book. And realized my previous ignorance. Sensation changes opinions not Reason.
Or it is possible to think that their English does not let them differentiate the subtleties of languages... Rather than assuming that they are ignorant and offering analogies that might or might not work.
1) Was speaking in general, not about any specific personQuote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
2) Not an assumption, he said it himself that he has never had any experiences with drugs or alcohol.
3) Your reply to my post perfectly elucidates the uselessness of explaining things in a direct and reasonable manner.
I think your choice of example (muslim/Quran/terrorist) because of Monamy's country of origin makes it rather personal, I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander III
Not having used them himself makes him "ignorant" on the subject?Quote:
2) Not an assumption, he said it himself that he has never had any experiences with drugs or alcohol.
Is that why you opted for not explaining it in a direct and reasonable manner?Quote:
3) Your reply to my post perfectly elucidates the uselessness of explaining things in a direct and reasonable manner.
Take your time. We can wait if you are willing to make an effort in that way.