Why I Don't Believe In God

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Originally Posted by Vonny

This is terrific osho!

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Vonny, is there anything to terrify you?

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory

Osho you are confusing me. You through your writing skills and use of different logic are simply misleading the general reader like me. I cannot understand your intricate philosophical proposition. You sound interesting and will be more if you make your message clearer

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There is nothing to make clear and this is an intricate subject and you cannot find clarity on such difficult topics. God, truth, afterlife, the secret of being alive or dead are some of the zones that have always mysterious. Of course some scriptures, and discourses of some saints or prophets seem to have demystified this but we always find such topics mysterious.

I cannot make this topic clear since I myself am not clear about it. I just communicate through my posts and create something for discussion.

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Originally Posted by osho

Vonny, is there anything to terrify you?

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Osho, language thing here - "terrific" is a good thing, somewhat similar to "great," or "wonderful" or "fantastic" although not exactly the same as those words. Its resemblance to "terrify" is superficial and the words have entirely different meanings. English is definitely strange like that and there are innumerable examples; words that have the same root but have evolved to mean quite different things.

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Originally Posted by osho

Vonny, is there anything to terrify you?

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As Nikolai said, I wasn't saying terrify.

That statement caught my attention because maybe the important thing is that we figure out what we personally think, rather than focusing on continually challenging one another so much. It was just an idea that occurred to me. Of course, through challenging we clarify.

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Originally Posted by NikolaiI

Osho, language thing here - "terrific" is a good thing, somewhat similar to "great," or "wonderful" or "fantastic" although not exactly the same as those words. Its resemblance to "terrify" is superficial and the words have entirely different meanings. English is definitely strange like that and there are innumerable examples; words that have the same root but have evolved to mean quite different things.

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That is the beauty of English and I like that stuff. That is why we are far from being good at it if we do not come from an English speaking community. You enjoy that privilege as a native writer over me and I will have to work tremendously to be closer to you. Thank you for your illumination.

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Originally Posted by Vonny

As Nikolai said, I wasn't saying terrify.

That statement caught my attention because maybe the important thing is that we figure out what we personally think, rather than focusing on continually challenging one another so much. It was just an idea that occurred to me. Of course, through challenging we clarify.

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Vonny I apologize for my poor comment. I am from a non English community and I have to go a long way to understand the spirit of English. I believe you will forgive me for my nonsensical comment. Anyway Nikolai enlightened me on this.

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Originally Posted by osho

That is the beauty of English and I like that stuff. That is why we are far from being good at it if we do not come from an English speaking community. You enjoy that privilege as a native writer over me and I will have to work tremendously to be closer to you. Thank you for your illumination.

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Yes, English will endlessly confuse you, because there are endless exceptions. In fact, I had to look it of endless curiosity and found "terrific" actually can mean what you took it to mean. But in 9 times out of 10 in conversational English, or probably at least 19 times out of 20, its closest synonyms will be words like "fantastic," "great," and "wonderful," although again, the exact texture and meaning of the word is not identical to any of those.

Glad you have a desire to learn English to precision. It's a goal that will take some time, just because of how different the language is. But if you read a good number of good books, you can eventually know it as perfectly as any average natural speaker. Your spelling is exceptionally good for a non-native speaker, so grammar is where you should work on; but you're getting it well! :)

One fun thing about English is all the funny words, like Gobbledygook.

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Originally Posted by NikolaiI

Yes, English will endlessly confuse you, because there are endless exceptions. In fact, I had to look it of endless curiosity and found "terrific" actually can mean what you took it to mean. But in 9 times out of 10 in conversational English, or probably at least 19 times out of 20, its closest synonyms will be words like "fantastic," "great," and "wonderful," although again, the exact texture and meaning of the word is not identical to any of those.

Glad you have a desire to learn English to precision. It's a goal that will take some time, just because of how different the language is. But if you read a good number of good books, you can eventually know it as perfectly as any average natural speaker. Your spelling is exceptionally good for a non-native speaker, so grammar is where you should work on; but you're getting it well! :)

One fun thing about English is all the funny words, like Gobbledygook.

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Thank you Nikolai for your help. I will work hard to this end. I do not speak English and my knowledge of it is limited to or learned from what I come across in print. That is why my English is not natural and lacks the luster and sheen you have in yours.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

At least, a benevolent one. . . .

Aids
Starving children
Children who develop cancer
War
Hate
Katy Perry

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I'm sorry but your wrong Mutatis...
You forgot the number one reason, Don't get me wrong I'm a Christian- But I swear Justin Bieber makes me question things :P

:lol: And I was just thinking, "the one thing this thread needs is a Justin Bieber joke..."

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

:lol: And I was just thinking, "the one thing this thread needs is a Justin Bieber joke..."

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HAHA sorry I would rather eat a plate of meat with a side of animal cruelty than hear him sing...

Faith itself is probably more embraced than any actual truth of God's existence. It's only natural that people like to cling to a sort of motherly or fatherly substance that makes them feel motivated, inspired, directed and protected regardless if it's really necessary. Even in a functioning world of 21st century factuality of science, the deep seated need to believe will still be widely rampant no matter how science explains it for the sake of anthropological tradition and subjective purpose.

I on the other hand am happy with my own explorations, in search for sufficiency of survival, however purposeful that may be or induce.

One doesn't believe in God because his heart is shut, mind awake!

Science has unveiled many truths of Nature but is still in infancy regards the mystery of soul and it's here that God comes in!! Believing or Unbelieving God makes no difference to God but it will always keep most men on their heels so much so that, out of curiosity and suspense, they would not stop talking about him most of the time!

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Originally Posted by Serena03

Even in a functioning world of 21st century factuality of science, the deep seated need to believe will still be widely rampant no matter how science explains it for the sake of anthropological tradition and subjective purpose.

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One of the two main bio profs at the U of A believes that there must be some god-like force. I was pretty taken aback when I heard that.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

One of the two main bio profs at the U of A believes that there must be some god-like force. I was pretty taken aback when I heard that.

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I heard of geologists who believe the world is only 7,000 years old, leaving many other scientists pretty dumbstruck there. I guess even scientists come in many packages. But a 'god-like force' doesn't necessarily mean a personal god or creator, it could refer to the laws of physics and nature behaving as 'god-like,' much like what Einstein interpreted.

Interview with God..... absolutely beautiful.
No matter what you believe, or even if you don't believe, this is worth the sixty seconds it takes to watch.

Click on: http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup-frame.html

In fact the Buddha never advocated for the existence of God and he was quiet neutral and was against idol worship. His ideas of Nirvana was closer to atheism than to theism though his followers preposterously idolized him.

I in fact do not want to believe in God the way Christians, Hindus and even Muslims believe in God in heaven or something like that that have instigated so many furors, antagonisms.

This is, philosophically close to Nihilism though it is not exactly it