'tis a similar belief with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowCrayola
oh, and for ancestor, sorry not to have responded ealier, I was around 12ish, when I had my encounter.
'tis a similar belief with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowCrayola
oh, and for ancestor, sorry not to have responded ealier, I was around 12ish, when I had my encounter.
Not a problem Stanislaw and as for Yellowcrayla you have explained enough hope I was not a bother to you. Catholic faith is unknown to me because I have not met one in person that I know of. Most faiths here Spiritualist and think I worship Satan and I admit to not knowing all faiths but at least I ask for someone to explain before saying they are Satan worshiper. Thank you both for being open and honest with me. :)
No problem. I don't think I'm ever going to be a satan-worshipper, though (no offense to those who practice the worship).
I'm in the 'I want to believe' section of the population....my girlfriend does, but for me, to believe, I must experience and, after so many years, this has yet to occur.
ED :cool:
Well, EBM, I'm always hearing it described as "haunted New England". Just kidding. I was always the same way. Let me experience it first, then I'll believe. Well, I did, on several occasions. Some I can explain, some I think I can explain, and some I don't know. My own advice to people is "Be careful. You may get more than you bargin for." I see these TV shows about ghost chases and I always wonder, "Are they really sure they know what they are messing with?" That doesn't include the ones that are almost certainly rigged... :)
aie, if ye bed with pigs, you will become one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pendragon
ie. don't mess with the dead...or the dead will mess with you...
ie2. "when I am dead, I would like to remain with the dead and I would be upset if somone living forced me to do otherwise!" - fist full of dollers.
Due to time constraints, this is short, and I have not read the entire thred yet. "Ghosts" in many misunderstood forms exist. If you have not encountered one, you are less likely to Believe.
Paranormal, as in Psychic abilities also exist in many misunderstood forms.
I toss my hat into this ring, and will return with a few more coppers for the pot.
I will ask though....Am I the only one here
(who has happened in and read this :D )
With a background in this most perplexing field?
well now,
I know it's only been a day, but it would apear
-This is an Ex-thread
So...if any others chime in, I'll be back.
It's hard to exchange thoughts when talking to myself. ;)
(an all to common habit)
Have a goodin'
If you mean by this, as I think you do, are any of us practising Psychics who actively persue ghost hunting, you are probably alone. I am familiar with most types of accepted hauntings. I have experienced some, not all of them. Some I cannot explain and do not try. My own vote as the starter of this thread was "not in the general sense." As for psychic powers, I do not discount them, but many fakers have cast doubt on people who may truly have them. I do not claim any. But what I have seen and experienced I know is true. Call me a skeptic until no explaination can be found. Then, to quote Sherlock Holmes,when you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, however unlikely, must be true. And if you cannot eliminate the impossible, change your mind about what is impossible! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dailen
Perhaps these "experiences" you guys have had can be told here, because I for one believe that there have never been ghosts, but i enjoy that whole mysticism area. Just as much as a good book.
Do you have to see it to believe it? Do you feel those whom have had these kinds of experiences are crazy? Not always seeing is believing because as pendragon pointed out people who claim to be pyschic can cheat you. It is often healty be skeptic in this field not just because of those whom will take advantage but for your own piece of mind. Skeptical people often research and that helps you decide whether or not you have lost your mind. :nod:
I keep confusing myself when thinking of a good response, and so what iam living with is that "being skeptical is more healthy."
Pendragon:
The fakers are the problem, Have you caught the British TV show where they "hunt" down ghosts?Quote:
I do not discount them, but many fakers have cast doubt on people who may truly have them.
They are not hunting ghosts, they are listening to a story teller "get his word on". Not a bit of his impressions ever check out, and/or he gives unverifiable infromation.
When it comes to local Sooth Sayers, as each new one shows up with the tacky neon sign in the front window, I do go and check that person out, this way I feel secure in giving others a review of that persons "skills".
Far too many people have had emotions played on, and wallet picked, by people who read body language, jewlery, clothing and auto - all of these things along with the opening introductory words, can give a "reader" enough info, to fill the average 20 minute sitting.
A most wise way to think on many things.Quote:
Call me a skeptic until no explaination can be found. Then, to quote Sherlock Holmes,when you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, however unlikely, must be true. And if you cannot eliminate the impossible, change your mind about what is impossible!
Ancestor:
Along with what I stated above, It is highly important to walk into a "reading" with a, clear mind, stable emotions, and a healthy level of skepticism- never walk into a reading thinking - You are going to know your future, you will most likely be dupped, and conned out of more money, for the person to say special prayers for your "darkness"- this is an absolute sign of a scam.Quote:
Not always seeing is believing because as pendragon pointed out people who claim to be pyschic can cheat you. It is often healty be skeptic in this field not just because of those whom will take advantage but for your own piece of mind. Skeptical people often research and that helps you decide whether or not you have lost your mind.
They "the fake" will prey on anybody drowing in sorrow, Tears mean money to them. Many Key words exist to try to tap into the most financialy lucritive of emotions...Love and Loss.
A true reader will not go down this road, and the only tears welcomed by the real thing, are tears of joy.
The strangest of images can be the message from the other side, I'll give some examples:
Friday night I was reading a man, who from the time he walked in, I could feel a Joyous male to his side...we began the reading, This man with him had been trying to reasure his friend that, he needed to stop feeling guilt for the "seemingly" early death of his friend. - as an experienced reader, I knew this was not something I should just blert out. I asked the "other" for more.
The images I got made no sense to me: normaly thats how it goes.
the image
A large building to the left with tall roll up doors facing the right, a tank parked in front, I could see the side of it and the cannon was facing away from the building, strangest part was the tank kept flashing red.
So to start small with his memories (ease him into it) I just asked him if a red tank made any sense to him. He thought a bit and said that he has seen many red tanks, (ok time to get specific) I explained the building and placement of the tank--I could see the lightbulb turn on, now, I said to him, Who stood with you at the tank.....Bingo, He now had proof (that I could never had looked up) that his friend was with us.
The reading continued.
Have you seen Interview with the Vampire? In the begining, where Louie tell the Christian Slater charactor, "We can't begin this way" then he turns on a light with speed that stuns the young man, but gives proof that something more is going on.
This is how I prefer to start my readings.
Just a silly side note: after the reading with the man above,and we were saying goodbye, I was Craving Moonpies, so..I mentioned this to him, turns out it was his friends favorite snack.
That night I ate my first ever moonpie, not bad.
My complexion, however, thought otherwise.
Oxy just made money off the other side.
I just noticed how long I have Prattled on...So.Being that the first topic started was on Psychic abilities...we could tackle this. And then move on to Ghost, lingering strong emotion, telekenesis, and Out of Body.(if you wish)
(often a confusing mess, reasearch into each event is important to determine what class, if any it belongs in) Any and all questions are welcomed, I will admit if I do not know the answers, I am not all knowing, Just a bit weird.
ohh...Dear MrBojangles: I also hope stories will be shared here, and sometimes the smartest thing people can say is " I know nothing "
Your skepticism is a good thing.
Now....I must move on to take care of
The Revenge of The Moonpie - Enjoy.
Excellent example of a case in point. Although some of his impressions are verifiable, I doubt the "no prior knowledge" line. I didn't start this as a "let's get into ghosts" forum thread. It was more of a "do you believe in their existence" thread. If you wish to get really deeply into the subject of Psychic powers and ghost hunting, I'm not sure this is the right thread for you. You may wish to start your own, explaining the various types of hauntings and Psychic readings. You seem to not wish anyone to be taken in by a faker. I know what you mean about the subtle clues they can use, I have no psychic powers, but I can often read facial expressions and what a gambler would call "tells", the invoulantary movements people make and tell them what they are thinking. That is just observation and deduction. Don't take me wrong, I'm not telling you that you are unwelcome, far from it. But if you want to go deeply into details, your own thread might work better. But then again, maybe others on this thread would be genuinely interested in an in depth study of ghosts--and I'm fairly easy to get along with. If they have no objections, (this actually moving a bit off the mark), no one voted me in as President! :) :) :) I just don't want you to feel restricted in any way. Whatever would best suit your line of inquiry, OK? Oh, and welcome to the thread! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/1055.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Dailen
All ghosts are within us.
naw...it's cool. I could erase it if you like.
very politely put.