Catcher in the Rye

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Originally posted by imthefoolonthehill
uh... no... you misunderstood.... he didn't start out with a dickensian introduction... he starts out saying he hates stupidly long introductions like the one in David Copperfield.

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You told me I misunderstood, then backed up exactly what I was saying...your immense wit and insight seems to inverse itself sometimes.
Read posts more carefully before you refute them.

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I love your sig, munro.

well, we're already off topic.

Have I ever told you that the Italian title of the book is just 'The Young Holden'? There's a note inside explaing the chatcher in the rye thing, but I guess they had no clue of how to translate it in a way that could sound good and have the same effect.

There's a quote I like.... It's towards the end, when Holden is at a teacher's house, I don't remember anything else. Rough translation by me (argh re-translating a translation, I feel like a murderer... I need to put my hands on an original copy, the language must be interesting... in the translation he sounds like comedians on tv shows that try to sound young but are close to be ridicolous...)
"Those who hurl down (??) are not allowed to realise not to feel when they touch the bottom. They just keep on hurling down. This beautiful chance is in the destiny of men who, in some moment of other of their life, looked for something their environment couldn't give them. Or that they thought their environment couldn't give them. So they stopped searching. They stopped before they even really started"

I think I liked it cos when I read the book I was feeling like that: falling down cos I had refused to try and fit in my environment, and I probably gave up before even starting to struggle...

GOT IT KOA!! It's one of my faves, too.
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'This fall I think you're riding for - it's a special kind of fall, a horrible kind. The man falling isn't permitted to feel or hear himself hit bottom. He just keeps falling and falling. The whole arrangement's designed for men who, at some time or other in their lives, were looking for something their own environment couldn't supply them with. Or they thought their own environment couldn't supply them with. So they gave up looking. The gave up before they ever really even got started.'

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Originally posted by fayefaye

I HAVE to ask, do american's REALLY spell goodbye 'good-by'?? THAT'S CRAZY.

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Well, I'm American and I spell it goodbye. I dont think that I've ever seen it spelled like that. But I have seen people spell "See you later", "Cyal8r" so who knows what those crazy Americans will do next. ;)

I've seen british do the cul8r thing, and worse *sighs*

Aww thanks Faye! Wow I'm not that bad as rough translator, if I had dedicated more than 3 minutes to it I might have done a vrey good job ;)

fayefaye- is that falling quote from Catcher in the Rye?

of course. :)

I read half of it today... haven't got there yet.

got...gotten? haven't read that yet....there we go.

I know I'm posting three times in a row.... but does anyone have any other thoughts on this book?

fool, that quote is towards the end

gotten is American English, got is British. Unless I'm mistaken :D

yeah... I finished it the other day... it wasn't half as good as I remembered it.

lol. haven't gotten there yet? nah, that can't be it. :) I finished the catcher the same day I bought it, I think that ruins it a bit, because all the syntax gets to you, and all.

Other than that, holden reminded me a bit of Tom from the Glass menagerie. hmm.... will write more later.

I love reading a whole book in a day. It gives you such a round sence of completion.

So do I- I try really hard to finish any book in one day unless it is something REALLY impossibble of The War and Peace or Ulysses proportions.It does give a rounded off feeling!