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Originally Posted by
osho
Is it necessary to believe and pray? I do not think prayer is something that helps us. We are told to renounce everything to God and this is a form of servility. We often like to behave slavishly since we crave security. Why people are not rebellious? The reason is they are afraid of being stranded. We like to comply with what we are told. My parents told me in my babyhood that there is a God and since we are Buddhists by birth and Buddhism if you make an advanced study of Buddhism God is not an important
issue the way Hinduism, Christianity or Islam accentuate it.
Why should God need our service and prayer? God must be indifferent to prayer or condemnation. We have a certain shape and size or idea or fabrication of God and we believe God resides in heaven and there is nothing called heaven and hell. These all are mythological tales. Today children read Harry Potter and it has so many imagined stories invented by J K Rowling. I have recently read Heart of Darkness, a very interesting and exploratory story written by Conrad and one of the characters in the novel finds himself in an African land and his stature there is likened to a God any religious community believes and the community who likes to worship that character like a God has in fact incarcerated him there and the rest of characters coming across him find the place and situation despicable.
God is not a person if God does exist at all. God is not something the way your scriptures have written about. The word God is not God or the idea you have imported from your Guru or book is not God. God if there is is this cosmic wholeness, pervasiveness and presence.
You have foolishly invented your personal Gods since you want to have a distinctiveness to identify yourself with. Your idea of God has divided the world and that ended up in the break of so many wars and the world is threatened more by the idea of God and religion than without them.
If you think disinterestedly and detachedly you will keep mind from the idea of God
It is interesting what you wrote about God. Madame Blavatsky, the founder of Theosophical Society, visited Tibet where she received her teachings. She had a very different idea about God.
Well, her God. :biggrinjester:
Excerpt from The Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky — Vol. 2
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VOL. 2, PAGE 233 HOLY SATAN.
The true esoteric view about “Satan,” the opinion held on this subject by the whole philosophic antiquity, is admirably brought out in an appendix, entitled “The Secret of Satan,” to the second edition of Dr. A. Kingsford’s “Perfect Way.” No better and clearer indication of the truth could be offered to the intelligent reader, and it is therefore quoted here at some length: —
“1. And on the seventh day (seventh creation of the Hindus),* there went forth from the presence of God a mighty Angel, full of wrath and consuming, and God gave him the dominion of the outermost sphere.†
2. “Eternity brought forth Time; the Boundless gave birth to Limit; Being descended into generation.”‡
4. “Among the Gods is none like unto him, into whose hands are committed the kingdoms, the power and the glory of the worlds:”
5. “Thrones and empires, the dynasties of kings,§ the fall of nations, the birth of churches, the triumph of Time.”
For, as is said in Hermes, “Satan is the door-keeper of the Temple of the King; he standeth in Solomon’s porch; he holdeth the key of the Sanctuary, that no man enter therein, save the Anointed having the arcanum of Hermes” (v. 20 and 21).
These suggestive and majestic verses had reference with the ancient Egyptians and other civilized peoples of antiquity to the creative and generative light of the Logos (Horus, Brahma, Ahura-Mazda, etc., etc., as primeval manifestations of the ever-unmanifested Principle, e.g., Ain-Soph, Parabrahm, or ZeruanaAkerne — Boundless Time — Kala)
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VOL. 2, PAGE 234 THE SECRET DOCTRINE
33. “Satan is the minister of God, Lord of the seven mansions of Hades” . . . .
The seven or Saptaloka of the Earth with the Hindus; for Hades, or the Limbo of Illusion, of which theology makes a region bordering on Hell, is simply our globe, the Earth, and thus Satan is called —
33 “. . . . the angel of the manifest Worlds.”
It is “Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god,” and this without any allusive metaphor to its wickedness and depravity. For he is one with the Logos, “the first son, eldest of the gods,” in the order.
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VOL. 1, PAGE 350 THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
The latter is, in the Chaldean Kabala, a pure abstraction; the Word or LOGOS, or DABAR (in Hebrew), which Word, though it becomes in fact a plural number, or “Words” — D(a)B(a)RIM, when it reflects itself, or falls into the aspect of a Host (of angels, or Sephiroth, “numbers”) is still collectively ONE, and on the ideal plane a nought — 0, a “No-thing.” IT is without form or being, “with no likeness with anything else.” (Franck, “Die Kabbala,” p. 126.) And even Philo calls the Creator, the Logos who stands next God, “the SECOND GOD,” and “the second God who is his (Highest God’s) WISDOM” (Philo. Quaest. et Solut). Deity is not God. It is NOTHING, and DARKNESS. It is nameless, and therefore called Ain-Soph — “the word Ayin meaning nothing.” See Franck “Die Kabbala,” p. 153. See also Section XII., “Theogony of the Creative Gods.” The “Highest God” (the unmanifested LOGOS) is its Son.
