Why I believe in God?

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11-03-2011, 11:17 AM
osho

I cannot feel the types of personal gods most religions have faiths in. My God if any is universal. My God is all pervasive and does not care whether prayed or not.

I do not believe the God in heaven. There is nothing called heaven or hell. This is just an idea, an invented idea. God is much subtler than what we understand. The cohesive force that keeps the planets moving and the earth revolving comes from that force and I do not have to name it as Jesus or any other things.

My God does not live in temples. God lives only in understanding and the ones we come upon in societies are ideologically warring Gods
11-03-2011, 11:45 AM
cafolini

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Originally Posted by osho

I cannot feel the types of personal gods most religions have faiths in. My God if any is universal. My God is all pervasive and does not care whether prayed or not.

I do not believe the God in heaven. There is nothing called heaven or hell. This is just an idea, an invented idea. God is much subtler than what we understand. The cohesive force that keeps the planets moving and the earth revolving comes from that force and I do not have to name it as Jesus or any other things.

My God does not live in temples. God lives only in understanding and the ones we come upon in societies are ideologically warring Gods

I believe in pistachio parfait.
11-03-2011, 12:20 PM
osho

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Originally Posted by cafolini

I believe in pistachio parfait.

It is really interesting caf
11-03-2011, 01:29 PM
cafolini

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Originally Posted by osho

It is really interesting caf

Ah, yes. But I disbelieve in strawberry shortcake.
11-03-2011, 01:34 PM
Scheherazade

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Originally Posted by cafolini

Ah, yes. But I disbelieve in strawberry shortcake.

Just want to point out that your disbelief in it does not make the strawberry shortcake any less existent or tasty, Cafolini.
11-03-2011, 01:40 PM
cafolini

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Originally Posted by Scheherazade

Just want to point out that your disbelief in it does not make the strawberry shortcake any less existent or tasty, Cafolini.

I fully agree with that. Neither does it make it stop being a three-dimensional occurrence when it comes to tasty. Good point.
11-03-2011, 01:43 PM
MarkBastable

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Originally Posted by Scheherazade

Just want to point out that your disbelief in it does not make the strawberry shortcake any less existent or tasty, Cafolini.

Well, yeah - except that strawberry shortcake was invented by Emily Penn-Fulwell in her 1897 novel The Road to Marianneville, and was only then actually made real by the Elbury Confectionery Company of Westfield, Mass, who marketed it as a sort of comestible tie-in to the book.

In other words, a storyteller made it up and readers made it real. Like God.
11-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Scheherazade

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In other words, a storyteller made it up and readers made it real. Like God.

Except that you cannot see, smell, touch or taste God (nor digest for that matter) ... Which is more reason to believe, I guess.
11-03-2011, 01:54 PM
cafolini

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Originally Posted by Scheherazade

Except that you cannot see, smell, touch or taste God (nor digest for that matter) ... Which is more reason to believe, I guess.

Or disbelieve. As you please. No doubt. And when it comes to reason, I'll make it plural. Again on bull's eye.
11-03-2011, 03:12 PM
expressionism

I think it's a good thing that there is God. But a lot of harm can be done if we misunderstand Him. That's why I like how Apostle John described God as love, and how the Gospels of Christ tell us to reach out to God by faith in His grace. I think this is a well of grace for us and for our lives.

The problem of evil can be really huge though. Sometimes I speak with christians from poor places and how hard and difficulty they have it. They often can't afford a doctor, must contend with litte food and a cold home. I don't think I could handle it if I had to live such a life. I feel burdened already, and I'm living in a western place.

But I suppose one must just look for how even poor people often retain their happiness. I think God can make us happy even in bad circumstances. And happiness is much better than grim survival. Even dying in happiness is preferable to living but being bitter, I think.
11-03-2011, 08:39 PM
mazHur

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QUOTE=osho;1086036]I cannot feel the types of personal gods most religions have faiths in. My God if any is universal

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One way or the other almost all religions (except agnostic) universally believe in the same God, by whatever name they call it. As you say your God is universal then He falls in the same domain.

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My God is all pervasive and does not care whether prayed or not.

That's your point of view. Whether you pray Him or not will not make him any difference because he is 'without need'. Apart from praying to Him, He ordains better way of worshipping Him by caring and loving His Creation.
God says demolishing Ka'aba is not as bad as harming someone. For a God of such attributes one has to be grateful to Him for His kindness and love for us. If you don't thank people how can you deem to thank your Lord???All depends on your outlook.

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I do not believe the God in heaven. There is nothing called heaven or hell. This is just an idea, an invented idea. God is much subtler than what we understand. The cohesive force that keeps the planets moving and the earth revolving comes from that force and I do not have to name it as Jesus or any other things.

Jesus may not be minding the business of the Universe but Someone surely is. Force, yes, force that you are alluding to doesn't come of itself unless someone had Created it. Can you tell me who is the CReator or Causator of that Force??? I call Him God, and you??
Heaven and Hell may be sybolic but they tend to mean that every person would be accountable for his actions. I don't believe putting all the blame on Jesus for ridding us of our sins. No, why should he??? at least I would be guilty of bad conscience if i put the blame of my sins on anyone else, including Jesus.

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My God does not live in temples. God lives only in understanding and the ones we come upon in societies are ideologically warring Gods

Yes, God doesn't need splendid edifices to live in. But people do need a ''proper place'' to offer their thanks (prayers) to Him, in this case worship edifices of all sorts. As you need a cozy corner to find relaxation so do worshippers need a comfortable corner to offer their thanks or prayers to God.
11-03-2011, 09:27 PM
cafolini

You got a well-deserved deluge, Osho.
11-03-2011, 09:49 PM
Mutatis-Mutandis

If the OP read what was previously here, my apologies. I got threads mixed up.
11-05-2011, 05:12 PM
Big Dante

Going to a Catholic School that contained about one actual Catholic in it my religion teacher once said something along the lines of. "I believe in a soul because music can touch it."

Obviously never went to a Michael Jackson concert.

But seriously, I liked what he was saying yet; no.
11-19-2011, 03:33 PM
Chris1991

I am a believer also , I don't even remember a time in my childhood not believing , i think nature is the best example , everything is in a balance ,i have some insects in artificial ember(bought for educational purpose) and watching the scorpion how beautiful the design is,nothing chaotic the exoskeleton design so simetric so perfect, the diversity of the fauna and many wild creatures have a design that is not chaotic , a talent for something is another proof , greatest artists create from stone perfect imitations of life, musicians create a sound that resonates with your soul
If you know where or how to look you can find enough proof

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