Welcome Anthony. I hope you enjoy lit net. It has something for every literature lover.
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Welcome Anthony. I hope you enjoy lit net. It has something for every literature lover.
Hi Anthony, Well, I guess our literature course has not changed, the same old stuff by Shakespeare.
By the way, welcome to the forum and I hope that you will have a great time here.
thanks you Pensive, for the correction, it will help me.
Virgil for the poem, I didn't know it, well it's pretty nice thank u too.
Today there's snow in my garden, but the sky is still grey... I don't like clouds...
Willow, the french name of the Three Musketers is "les trois Mousquetaires" from Alexandre Dumas, I've read it few years ago, the story is a bit slow at the beginning but I remember that I enjoyed it. yesterday I decided to read American Psycho, I don't think that was great idea, it's really strange, but it changed my feelings so I guess it was not that much a bad idea. What do you think about it?
( I've just finished a season of Buffy in DVD, the Third one, and my favourite character remains willow, the witch... :) )
Hey Crazy , No need for "thanks" *smiles*
I have got American Psyco DVD and I might watch it someday. I have watched some episodes of Buffy, The Vampire Slayer and I liked them a lot.
came to say hi
i used to come here sometimes back in late 2004/ early 2005?
never saw a forum lol
juss joined and yah i dont enjoy lit that much but uh i reelie lyk animal farm and all =)
hey y'all the master of all has finally arrived to this petty little lit site. i am here to terrorize you to make you wished you had never heard the name topher, nad excpecally to make you wake up in the middle of the nights in cold swets just wonderin what else i could possibly spell wrong... :lol: just kidin tho :goof:
:lol: :pQuote:
Originally Posted by topher-30
that sounded lik sumthin Naruto wud say..You kno Naruto?!..anime..?!Manga...?!
mmm..?!No...?! yes..?! :D
Hi, I've posted here a few times and have enjoyed looking through these forums. It's nice having such a variety of different people talking about different types of literature. Just thought I'd introduce myself here and say howdy :). I'm currently in a graduate program in lit. so I do a lot of reading. I'm especially fond of Renaissance poetry (hence "Petrarch"), but I also like the Romantics (Keats is one of my faves), and of course I surface into the twenty-first century every once in awhile when I don't have too much research to do :). Anyway, looking forward to meeting you all. :wave:
Welcome topher and Petrach. Have a nice time here.
Welcome Petrarch. As grad student I'm sure your time is limited, but I hope you stick around. I've enjoyed our discussions in the Poem of the Week forum. Thanks for letting me know a little about you. I've wondered about you and ktd. One question, just so I can relate a little better to who I'm talking to, are you male or female? I can't quite tell. If you wish, you can read about my background in my intro which is one of the earlier posts (it's post #3 on the first page) on this thread.
actually Nisha, yes me and Naruto havbe been friends for many centuries now. back in the day when we were able to roam around in public view we used to do many tricks and spells togather. actually i have no idea what on earth i am speaking about i just like to mess around alot and to act like an idiot. no nisha i do not know of this naruto character. sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by Nisha
Hi! :D
I'm Veronica Fontainhas and I'm a mad art student (wouldn't you guess heh?!)
I'm Portuguese and I live right near the seaside ^_^, in Paço de Arcos.
My interests are very variated: Books, Music (especially classical), art, India and Nepal, manga, anime, cartoons, pot, movies (especially documentaries), Hermann Hesse, Klimt, Hermann Hesse....did I mention Hermann Hesse? :D
:banana: uhuhuhuhu!
Hello Fountain, It is very nice to see you. Nice interests, you have got there.
You have mentioned "Hermann Hesse" three times if I have calculated right. *smiles*
Welcome aboard.Quote:
Hello Im Anthony, a literature teacher in Karachi, Pakistan. We re studying Shakespeares Macbeth and Twelfth Night,Dickens Great Expectations, an assortment of poems and some short stories.
Im happy to find an active literature group. Our British Council library closed down and I miss the link with literature.
If you don't mind my asking, which short stories are you discussing in your class? (College, I presume?)
Thanks for the welcome Pensive and Virgil.
Virgil--since you're curious, I'm a woman (technically not Petrarch, but his "love"). I read your intro. and was interested to find out a little about you too. I think it's admirable that you went back to get your masters in a subject you love. I just completed the MA last year (now working towards the infamous PhD :eek: ), and it took all the time and energy my little brain could muster so I know it would take some real dedication to do that while working full time in an unrelated field :nod:. Well, gotta go see to my bird who's chirping loudly for attention. Ciao for now.
Well Hello one and all.
I love learning, possibly why I joined this site. I love reading and spending time with my friends. I play volley ball and surf. I amazingly enough watch virtually no TV, I think that time is made up on the computer. I do enjoy movies, especialy old ones and musicles. I enjoy the sciences and history. I especially love singing and music. Well that is me in a nut shell.
You don't have to answer but on that piece of info, I would infer that your real name is Laura.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrarch's Love
Hi Zany - Welcome. Surf? You must be a good swimmer.
Virgil-- Hai ragione! Il mio nome e lo stesso. :) I was wondering when someone would guess. Conosci bene la poesia di Petrarca?
Not really, Petrarch, but I am aware of his platonic love. I'm sorry I can't write in Italian, but I can read some; limited vocabulary, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrarch's Love
Hi friends,
I am tuppera shiv kumar a critic on the modern translations of shakespeare works i have a google group under shakespeare revived and open for all the students teachers and researchers, critics. make use of me when found on line at that group or at this forum. please make this forum to gain my help in assisting your projects or assignments all free of any cost or expense. i am the editor of a website on shakespeare. rest all teaching is my hobby my livlihood and shakespeare is every thing to me.
regards and god bless u
shiva
Hi shiva, you can discuss different plays of Shakespeare here if you are interested in his works.
Zany, Have a nice time here and welcome to the forum.
thank you zany i shall strive to be useful to your forum
regards
shiva
Hello all,
I've just started posting today - I'm a teacher working in China (originally from England). My hobbies are reading and doing other stuff.
This sight is a little oasis for a man starved of conversation in his native language. Thanks!
dear panunrge
your yearining for native language is resonably felt and acknowledged by me but this forum is the oasis you had been yearing for and i am a piece of this oasis recently added to. but the thirst for quenching the soul's thirst can be achieved only when the attitudes confluence and reach the culminating point. i am a shakespeare maniac and nothing other than a discussion about shakespeare would intereest me. if u call it a weakness i would not mind. of all the arts that a man tries to learn and cultivate,perhaps, the most difficult art of accomplishment is the art of living which consists in the true unerstanding of life and so regulating ones conduct as to reach that goal nearer nearer everyday. and that art of living which ii have learnt from researching shakepeareean works leaves me , nevertheless indisposed, and i do idoloize him
god bless u and bye
with regards
shiva
Dear Trinityshiva,
I wouldn't say that a mania for Shakespeare is a weakness unless it affects your daily life. Don't start talking in blank verse or getting into duels over mistaken identities and you should be fine... ;)
My favourite play (at time of writing, at least) would be 'The Tempest'. How about you?
Thanks for your greeting...
heyy!!! i just joined today... and i have no idea what to do on here... i like to watch tv.. go out with my friends... and draw (when im really bored) so thats me... OMG i love snow too! its really pretty.. lol... and im obsessed with a couple shows... mainly just friends... but mind of mencia is really funny! and i watch everybody loves raymond.. will and grace.. everything on vh1... and ofcorarce ((melissa i didnt forget)) living with fran.. but anyway.. i hope to talk to a lot of people... it'll give me more to do
Thank you dear, I love Hermann Hesse!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pensive
By the way...it's not Fountain, it's FONTAINHAS (which is my last name) :D lol!
Hi Jessica, Welcome to the forum! Keep on posting.
Panurge, It is nice to have you here. I have read some of your posts and I found them really interesting. Keep on posting.
Thank you Pensive.
Where is your signature from? It seems familiar...
Wow, I just realized I've been posting on this site for about a month and never said Hello.
Hello!!
Hello! ;) Welcome to the Forum Hazel-Ra, I've really been enjoying your presence here; you seem like a lot of fun.
It is from "Lord Of The Rings"Quote:
Originally Posted by Panurge
Hi Hazel! :D
thank you pensive your words are very encouraging and help and enhance the efforts of the ones struggling to get noticed.
god bless u
shiva
Hi Shiva--good to welcome a fellow Shakespearean to the forum. May I ask, what country are you coming from, and what initially pulled you to Shakespeare in particular? Do you have a favorite play? I study Renaissance lit. and find it a fascinating period. :)
Also welcome to Panurge (glad you've found an oasis), Jessica 222, and Hazel-Ra. :wave:
dear sir/maa'm
some inexplicable cruel ordeals of my life have pushed me to the brinks of death and after recovering from coma, during the period of recuperation, when i stood too drained out even to venture outdoors, a benefactor had come visiting me who is from a maths stream and the most sought after home tutor and at his behest sine literature is my strong point though i have not studied it at university level, did i yield and concede to his request of teaching but when the students started pouring and each child holding some book of his choice to learn Julius Caesar, i was horrified to notice how ridiculously shakespeare was being taught and translated and had to resolved to tranlate his works and present them anew to this world so that the intellectual wealth ruined over 400 years is repaired and re-presented. i am an insignificant indian eking out just a living in a just way and yearning to be noticed. This morning opened with a joyful note reading your mail had further rejenuvated my energies i shall strive to be useful to this forum.
thanks
god bless u
shiva
Shiva--I am glad that exploring Shakespeare helped you after having to overcome difficult times. I know from personal experience what great inspiration and comfort poetry can offer during times of illness. Do you mean that you are translating Shakespeare's works into your native language? A substantial undertaking indeed. I wish you good fortune in your work and teaching.
you got me wrong petrach
i am correcting the existing modern english translations which kept polluting the intellect of the children of this era and the era that had gone by. this morning i have posted many posts under the merchant of venice and the tempest and some on the julius caesar. my postings could be haphazard for i am less aquainted with computers and advise you to read my postings by "all postings by trinityshiva" to make your survey more comfortable and kindly keep me posted for i am human being like you and prone to be wrong at many times be frank my friend only those who boldly point out your mistakes are good friends
god bless u
shiva
Examine the meaning of the pair of words “Father, in”[The merchant of Venice]
W.Turner brings in another some CN Pooler to orchestrate his absurdities and quotes him to have averred that “the sentence is dislocated and inconsequent, but to make Lancelot Coherent is to undo Shakespeare’s work.”
The Oxford University’s Roma Gill gives the meaning of the word “in” as “go into” and avers that “off the stage by implication into Bassanio’s house”. . Read the last two lines of this dialogue. Where do you think that Launcelot is going? Or would you agree if I take a suggestion from Roma Gill’s dialogue that Bassanio and Shylock the Jew, have maintained a common residence?
Here we should take the meaning of the word “Father” as “The God the almighty going by the Roget’s Para 976 and the meaning of the word “in” as “heart” going by the Roget’s Para 221. Out of gratitude for having been bestowed with employment, Launcelot is stating that the heart of Bassanio is at par with the heart of the God in the heavens above when the quantum of kindness is considered. Now I would like to call your attention to the first dialogue of this scene. Don’t you see that Shakespeare had called Shylock an incarnation of the devil himself? What is the harm if he presents Bassanio almost to be the incarnation of the God himself?
One to be respected and be called a gentleman should honestly admit when some expression of Shakespeare is not decipherable but calling this great soul incompetent using words of the nature of “dislocated or inconsequent, almost amounts to a cruel crime in my eyes.
However you be the better judge Lament”400 years have already gone when will this intellectual eclipse end Shakespeare’s intellect be revealed in it’s true perspective???
Examine the translation of the words Weeds so Loathly.[The Tempest]
Roma Gill translates as “Traditionally the marriage bed was strewn with flowers”
Refer page number 1220 of Oxford dictionary edited by JB Sykes. Word” “WEEDS” when used in plural is a (widow’s) deep mourning worn by a widow. I don’t think in any culture flowers are seen strewn over the bed of a mourning widow.
Even if we concede for a while with her, how do you explain the word “loathly” following weeds? How will Roma Gill explain the flowers strewn over a marriage bed to be with a feeling of disgust? When Shakespeare keeps discussing about the harms of union before marriage, to make the children to desist from such unholy practice, Roma Gill encouraging the practice with ornate, flower strewn beds of marriage or nuptials would have a harmful affect upon the adolescent children of ISC culminating into a dreadful and disproportionate height of intellectual pollution upon the minds of innocent Indian children. I feel it safe and logical to go by the word meaning option “separation” for the word “weeds” (See Para 905 0f Roget’s)
Now you be the better judge.
Lament”400 years have already gone when will this intellectual eclipse end Shakespeare’s intellect be revealed in it’s true perspective???
“See the translation of the lines 152 to 158.[The Tempest]
W.Turner tries to impress us that Prospero is groaning and filling the sea with his saline tears. But to me it does not appear to be so. Read this dialogue carefully I think the sea is groaning not Prospero and that groaning of the sea is due to the defeat it felt because Prospero over came it. This groaning of the sea had raised his morale and this surge in morale helped him to gather the power and courage to sustain against the events to follow.
Now let us take a look at Roma Gill’s editing in this context. She happily and with true dedication accepts the Turner’s absurdity and boldly goes a step further to make the issue more amusing. May be being a woman she takes the words “bear up” to connote child bearing and takes us all to the department of Gynecology right into the labor room to give us a feel of the miseries a woman goes through at the time of child bearing to understand the groaning of Prospero.
Now don’t start chuckling! I have another amusing issue to share with you pertaining to this dialogue. I beg your pardon but may I ask you how would you add beauty to the sea and make it appear pleasing to the eye when I drop you along with your three year old child in to the sea? Do you find the sea decorated with you and your child struggling for your lives? But this is how Roma Gill feels. For her the meaning of the word decked in this context is decorated and adorned.
Now pick up Roget’s and go to the Para 211 and you will find an option floor as a meaning for word deck. Now pick up oxford dictionary edited by JB Sykes and go to page 375, under the meaning number 5 you find a meaning over came for the word floor.
However you be the better judge
Lament”400 years have already gone when will this intellectual eclipse end Shakespeare’s intellect be revealed in it’s true perspective???