chaucer was right in showing what women want through, most notably, the wife of bath. Women want sovereignty. Thats it.
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chaucer was right in showing what women want through, most notably, the wife of bath. Women want sovereignty. Thats it.
Yea!!! a post that actually refers to literature, been awhile.
Thank you, I acted wrongly out of pain of h eart for the very young having to read certain things. It won't happen again.
you are all so kind, I in no way deserve your loyalty. But I shall treasure your words in my heart and guard them for always.
I think Madame Bovary would be an interesting read concerning the topic at the head of this thread. She is a woman who is unsatisfied living the traditional role of housewife and mother to an up-and-coming doctor in early 1800s France. She amuses herself in books and the fanciful, and comes to regret her own reality. Anyone have any comments concerning this work, or any other, and this thread's topic?
i find that text way too anti-feminist. Chaucer's been really clever in presenting anti-feminist ideas and made Alison prove those "theories"Quote:
Originally Posted by coreyg37
though i don't deny the fact that women want sovereignity
I agree with Eva, I think Chaucer had a certain contempt of females, perhaps justifyably so, I am in no position to judge that. But it colors what he writes in a distinctive way.
I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm glad someone else recognized the aburdity in the use of a male-written female character to exemplify universal female opinion. :p I know you didn't mean it so seriously, coreyg37, but I found it amusing.
And vice-versa, Emily. Don't forget that.Quote:
Originally Posted by emily655321
Um... what's the vice-versa?
Female authors writing men characters to exemplify a universal male attitude. I can think of a few who did exactly that.Quote:
Originally Posted by emily655321
Emily - I agree with Star. When male writers dominated prior to this century they probably weren't always sensitive to female characters. But in this century, female writers haven't always been fair to male characters. But I feel on balance everybody exaggerates the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
Well, duh, and they're just as stupid as the male authors. Two wrongs don't make a good argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
I'm not a card-carrying member of the "sisterhood." The majority of women are just as vapid as the majority of men, and it aggravates me when either side points fingers.
I can't speak for the rest of women but this particular one wants some ice cream!
*toddles to the kitchen to get some*
Bon appetit, madamoiselle...
Don't worry, madamoiselle's not sharing! :p
*gasps and shakes her head in disbelief*Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
More rumours, I see! Just shared it with you, haven't I??
I have only seen you showing that ice creams at your webcam! How's that sharing? *sulks*
I love how tactfully subtle your peacekeeping tactics are. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
Oh, you give me too much credit!Quote:
Originally Posted by emily655321
;)
I like the cut of your jib, Emily. If you were a boat, I would describe you as yar.Quote:
Originally Posted by emily655321
Such words (and observations and suppositions) can only come from starr...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by starr
I think Scher and Emily would make an excellent counselling couple. sort of like good cop bad cop.Em could hit them hard with her keen razor sharp mind and before they(clients) could complain Scher would offer them some Haagendas and talk about the bloody weather. They'd rake in millions and be seen as totally genious.
Not to mention that dear ol' Ben and Jerry would probably offer them free ice cream for life.
Yay, "jib."Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
Yay, ice cream.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinHood3000
:D
I am a master of the written word, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by smilingtearz
Since Scher has already made an issue out of my post in a PM to me, let me explain my inspiration:
Emily understands what a jib is and presumably knows that "liking the cut of your jib" is not an offensive or sexual remark. It's sailing lingo that means (metaphorically) to agree with someone's attitude.
Yar describes a boat in perfect condition and I borrowed the word from the 1930s film "The Philadelphia Story."
I see a time coming when we will be asked to dumb down our posts so as not to raise the supicions of moderators. Brace yourselves for the day. I won't be here any longer.
English is my second language and I try not to be too shy to ask about the things I don't understand (rather than assuming or pretending), like terms 'jib' and 'yar' ('yar' does not even exist in Cambridge Online Dictionary). However, it seems like some people are too self conscious and defensive to explain a specific term without making a martyr of themselves.
We all have to justify our existence after all!
That's understandable, Scher. No worries.
Good for you, Scher. Being shy about asking questions, even if those around you seem to think it's obvious, is silly and counterproductive. In school I was always one of those who raised their hand often, perhaps uncomfortably frequent for some, to ask a question. Even at work I am the one who is always asking questions, dsespite whether its obvious or not. A buddy of mine at work once folded up a card and placed in front of me at a conference table labeled "The Asker of Stupid Questions". Believe it or not, I'm very proud of that label. You don't know how many times people have come up afterwards and said they were glad I asked the question. What seems obvious may not always be obvious to everyone. I don't know how many times I've kept a project on the correct path because I asked a question, because what was obvious to some was not to others, because epople had made different assumptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
Why did I have to open my stupid mouth!!*slaps her forehead*Quote:
Originally Posted by starr
OK, I know what I want. In addition to my very first post on this thread, and I know this will sound bad, but I want (and it doesn't even have to be a guy) someone to take care of my finances for me. I want someone to say, here is what you can spend this week on the basics, this is what you can spend on non basics. Then I want them to make sure my bills are paid and make sure I'm putting money into a savings. Of course it would be foolish not to check on this person, which of course I would do....I realize that these people are called accountants and financial advisors, but I don't want something that formal.
Hey c'mon, we're just here to try to promote a decent atmosphere where everyone can feel comfortable to contribute.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
You could kill a a flock of birds with one stone and marry a predictable, feminine-yet-chivalric accountant. Who maybe has hair like Beaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by papayahed
Another left-handed slur on my moral character. What's indecent about my using a metaphor of sailing jargon to compliment Emily on being level headed? You moderators are so intent on finding moral turpitude in posts you are seeing it where none exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos
Everyone is already free to contribute to this forum. Whether they feel comfortable or not in doing so is entirely up to them.
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Originally Posted by Logos
Yo! I'm putting a stop to this. It was a simple misunderstanding. Everyone just cool their jets, all right? That's it. No more discussing it. PM each other if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
I don't know why you have this persecution complex, my use of "decent" was meant as in "cool" or "kind and obliging".Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
What was PMed between you and Scher about jargon and such has nothing to do with me.
I have never made any judgement about you and your morals, and I would hope you feel no reason to get "personal" with me, as I haven't with you.
My use of "decent" sure was a misunderstanding :)Quote:
Originally Posted by emily655321
On that note, topic closed.
If anyone has a problem with a Moderator, you can PM them.
If anyone wants to start this topic again, sans bickering, feel free to do so :)