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Agree completely. Keep the science in science.Quote:
Originally Posted by *Classic*Charm*
I can also recommend checking out the thread Neely linked to. Among other discussions, he and I had a very enjoyable point/counterpoint on the paleo diet in there.
I see things much as you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by *Classic*Charm*
I would add that science, in medicine and nutrition particularly, is rather frail. For instance, despite countless studies on heart disease and high cholesterol, the impact on cholesterol, in its various physical and chemical configurations, is far from clear even now. Not all HDL is good it seems; other cholesterol is worst of all; and cholesterol particle size is important. The full story may be millennia away.
i think the problem is that everyone touts that they are right, creating the illusion that we have it all figured out. at the same time that the United States has record incidences of high cholesterol/blood pressure, heart attacks, diabetes, and cancer. i think it really comes down to not eating processed foods, drinking lots of unfluoridated water, and getting exercise (this country is nuts in terms of people sitting around all day at work then going home and watching tv).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladys
Water fluoridation has nothing to do with it. For most of my life I've been in marvellous physical shape and I've always daily consumed great quantities of tap-water.Quote:
Originally Posted by hypatia_
Your other points are spot on though. They key is to cut out the processed foods and make sure you simple move.
i guess fluoridation has more to do with your mental state than physical. not saying there is anything wrong with you, but fluoridation simply has no dental benefit, whereas its affects on the pineal gland are quite profound.
there's a reason why Finland, Germany, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Switzerland have all discontinued fluoridation of public water.
To change the subject because fluoridation is for more than just protecting teeth unless you have better technology available that many poor countries don't have.
There is a way for the elder to deal with insonia due to perhaps anguish or anxiety. The drug used is dangerous beyond 5mg,but at that dosis is safe. Imsomnia can be corrected by taking a pill every 5 to 10 days. I'm talking about Ambien. The generic name is Zolpidem Tartrate. Beyond 5mg it could be addictive and have bad side effectcs. If you are suffering from extreme lack of sleep, ask your doctor for a safe prescription. Often, the problem is corrected and you might not have to keep taking it. If you buy it without prescrition (not recommended), remember 5 mg, no more.
That reason is mostly politics. The dental benefits of water fluoridation have been very well documented over decades--it hardens the tooth enamel, thus hindering decay--and for that matter, several countries without water fluoridation, like Germany, fluoridate salt instead for the same reason. Never heard the pineal thing before; a Google search turned up lots of new-agey/conspiracy quackery (as in, fluoride in the pineal has the effect of making us more docile, and is introduced by the government into our water just for that purpose), but no reputable science that I could see on an admittedly quick skim.Quote:
Originally Posted by hypatia_
Article in the Trib today about some nutrition myths:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/featur...,1842434.story
Very good article. Take heed. One more thing: Mix Amaranth flour, 10 grain flour, pecan flour, and corn tortilla flour in equal proportions. They don't need to be refrigerated. When you get ready to bake, mix some apple powder cider and some powdered butter. Add enough water to make dough and some baking powder. You can make some healthy dumplings, tamales, gorditas, scones, etc. If you are making scones, you can use some berries and sweeten it with concentrated niagara or concord grape juice. This is a very healthy deal. No myth.
Soy is not very good unless it has been fermented.
With the mix described above, you can make some great pecan pie. Don't use the apple cider. Still sweeten with grape juice and use carob powder as a chocolate substitute if you wish.
If you wish to eat actual chocolate, use very dark. Don't exaggerate. That's all.
The problem with nutrition myths is that they change with the weather. You can easily find any number of articles that would argue the opposite. And you can play article tennis all day long and it won't prove anything either way. As Gladys said about one particular thing, cholesterol, the full story is probably a millennia away, well, we haven't got that long! This is way in the absence of any reliable info I stick to a common sense approach in my diet and have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calidore
That's not good enough, Neely. You should specify the articles that argue the opposite. You'll have a hard time finding them, except that the goons at the FDA would argue the opposite and they no longer count.
Whole grains, fruits and veggies, quality source of protein. Anything beyond that amounts to needless over-complification.
I agree only there's a question mark over grains, so I limit my intake of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy88
Ha, Cafolini I'm not playing tennis.
One suffers from malnutrition to get to 150 to become a model. LOL His over-complication amounts to over-simplification.
The other doesn't play tennis. It's a good sport, Neely. You don't have to stop tennis to ignore the issues. ROFLMAO