The Pros and Cons of Celibacy

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory

I understand it. In fact Nepal and India are culturally one though they are two geopolitical countries. And I confess you are totally right and as I am from a different cultural background and all I wrote is not exactly what happens in our society. Ours is a very traditionally rooted country with all age-old values. Faith, fidelity, trust are some of the values that are always greatly cherished in our part of the world.

What I agree with you is also on the fact that I am in two cultures at the same time and most of what I write down here come from what I read in western books and western cinemas and I have no firsthand knowledge of your cultures and I neither have been to your countries nor ever have I discussed other than on forums.

All that make my ideas contradictory but I suppose I do not bore you with my ideas.

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You are refreshingly honest and forthright, Blaze; and never boring. There was a time when the very same ideals you speak of in your culture were a part of American culture. There were always times when the economy was lagging; but people stood by their word and their products. If a man fathered a child, he admitted it and took responsibility.We were responsible to our children and our elderly. That is what kept our economy and our family units strong. It amazes me sometimes when I see how much America has changed in only 50 years.

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Originally Posted by Shalot

I read some book about sexual energy and its healing properties. It was a welcome change from the chastity talks I got growing up.

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Yes, I often think those "chastity talks" do more harm than good; since I was brought up in a fundameltalist church I also got the: 26 hours of labor followed by a dead mother and baby and the story about the ballet dancer that didn't go to church, got into a car accident and got both her legs cut off:cold:

Of course, I'm still trying to figure out where all those sexually and intellectually satisfying partners are. I used to tell people that to have a perfect relationship, a woman needed 3 men: one to talk to, one to sleep with and the other to bring home a paycheck:lol:

The holy trifecta! we may never start with the three-in-one, but hopes arekept for the development of the same. :)

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

The holy trifecta! we may never start with the three-in-one, but hopes arekept for the development of the same. :)

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Ever since Barack, Buddy, I figure any dream is possible (So does Sarah):lol:

Celibacy isn't such a bad thing, after all, if the celibates keep up the good work, they'll improve the quality of the gene pool.

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Originally Posted by atiguhya padma

Celibacy isn't such a bad thing, after all, if the celibates keep up the good work, they'll improve the quality of the gene pool.

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Brilliant atiguhya, as usual, you're right on point:lol: Has anyone figured out how to get the royal family to go celibate; I just can;t think of one more child looking like Charles;)

Whoops. Let he who casts the first stone!
Its not only Charles who has big ears!

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I used to tell people that to have a perfect relationship, a woman needed 3 men: one to talk to, one to sleep with and the other to bring home a paycheck:lol:

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Which one will take out the trash? May I suggest 4...

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Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN

Whoops. Let he who casts the first stone!
Its not only Charles who has big ears!

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Touche Manichaean:thumbs_up; What can I say, It was in to be politically correct this season: so we cast about for middle-aged women who rode moose and shot bears, old war heros who shot friends, toast colored intellectuals that were still near Chicago action...but, we only keep them in for 4-8 years; long before they corrupt the gene pool.

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Originally Posted by Haunted

Which one will take out the trash? May I suggest 4...

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:idea: Gosh, you're right; and one to do the lawn...Do you think they will all bring home paychecks. I always find husbands that stop working when I start;)

each and everyone of us should sticke to realijty. Celibat4e? so what hey who where when.

Human touch is required to feel human. that's a 5 senses type thing. ner touched equal never human? Who would know? what woud it matter? what's true to self worth?" Fidelis, even if it only be to one's self.

Is it possible that all a man need do to to be a good man is to leave you?

sorry i'm not wellwer

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

each and everyone of us should sticke to realijty. Celibat4e? so what hey who where when.
Human touch is required to feel human. Fidelis, even if it only be to one's self.
Is it possible that all a man need do to to be a good man is to leave you?

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:lol: If touch is required to feel human; what do people with those prosthetic scissor hands do when they touch themselves....:eek:

Oh well, so much for levity, You made a solid point, my friend::thumbs_up

I would have to say that the only person, man or woman, that a person longs for forever is the one who leaves.

so the fourth man walk out the door, and you don't tnink the trash has been taken out?

A local establishment that allows me had this to ay about me



















Celibate human equals untouched person.

"what mean you to weep and break my heart? Wee p not for me but for yoursleves and for our children." supposedly said by Jesus

Buy, pay, truth, i an imagine an aesthete I should probably say goodnite.

I don';t any of us ever talked much with helen keeler, or mr merric k. Some woman just took (attempted) the wind out of my fair hairless sails? Now I'm really going to be come uncelibate.

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

so the fourth man walk out the door, and you don't tnink the trash has been taken out?

A local establishment that allows me had this to ay about me

Celibate human equals untouched person.

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Then the establishment does not perceive your great worth as we do, my dear gbrekken.
I am celibate because I was touched; just not the way I liked:brow:

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

"what mean you to weep and break my heart?

Buy, pay, truth, i an imagine an aesthete I should probably say goodnite.

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Then we shall dust your ears with fairies wings and line your heart with gold:)

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

I don';t any of us ever talked much with helen keeler, or mr merric k. .

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Interesting point, I wonder what kind of noises Helen Keller would make in bed. Would having sex with John Merrick be considered be.... Oh, never mind

Where are you hiding your hairless sails:D

My long, and long overdue haitus begins shortly. I am celibate. I do not recommend it for any but the most principled. True to self (fidelis), I don't accept gifts motivated by pity, nor do I demean the giver/gift or purchaser/supplier by visiting business establishments legally established for the purpose of providing for those wishing to be incelibate. Ahuman child ignorant of human touch may be less than what is expected of human definition. While "doing it" has the possibility of elevating the human experience to one of its own ultimate levels, in and of, and for and only for itself, it also has the possibility of lowering to utter meaninglessness. It does fit the definition of sublime at its best. peace out.

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Originally Posted by gbrekken

My long, and long overdue haitus begins shortly. I am celibate. I do not recommend it for any but the most principled. True to self (fidelis), I don't accept gifts motivated by pity, nor do I demean the giver/gift or purchaser/supplier by visiting business establishments legally established for the purpose of providing for those wishing to be incelibate. Ahuman child ignorant of human touch may be less than what is expected of human definition. While "doing it" has the possibility of elevating the human experience to one of its own ultimate levels, in and of, and for and only for itself, it also has the possibility of lowering to utter meaninglessness. It does fit the definition of sublime at its best. peace out.

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You are a great romantic, gbrekken. I have never had pity sex; well, except in the blessed state of matrimony when it is not only allowed but sometimes advisable. My friends all tell me that they have only had sex during their marriage when "they wanted to"; I am curious whether they are lying to themselves or are just very selfish. Surely, someone has had sex with their partner when they are inebriated, or you have fallen "out of like" with them, or you have a headache?

The idea that celibacy brings people "closer to nature" seems stupid to me. Sex IS nature.