What Would Happen If It Were Only Eve?

Wow...I guess that's a good fairy tale version of Adam and Eve...and it pities the "serpent" in this version...cute. :)

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Originally Posted by Revolte

ever played sim city? its alot funner to watch things get messed up. God ( I want to add here that I'm agnostic, not atheist or religious ) is either created by man, or close enough to man to be looked at as man. I see no reason why he wouldn't do stuff like that just for kicks, we do it. I know god is supposed to be this loving soul ( that never seems to do anything himself... ) but didn't he kick out some one close to him over a petty argument? The guy can't be as kind as people like to make him up to be. I seriously doubt any sain creature would outcast an entire species because they ate a fruit, even if the talking snake told them to do it. I'm not trying to be rude here or anything I'm serious about what I'm saying.

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The reason God kicked them out, wasn't because they ate the fruit, but because they were introduced to sin. The garden of Eden was a place where God came regularly(based on the relationship between him and Adam-man to man conversations), it was a place where God was close to man, but by sinning, both Adam and Eve could not stay close to God, because sin and truth can not mingle, and God IS Truth. God could no longer shelter them in the garden because of this. That's why they had to leave the garden.

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Originally Posted by chum

What Apple! Apple is not mentioned at all! The follwing statement is going to cause much controversy...
The forbidden fruit was just symbolism for SIN!
Satan "beguiled" Eve...She had sex with him. (sex is not the sin here...it is the association with Evil that is the sin)
Adam, then had sex with Eve.
Eve conceived twins.
Cain was the son of Satan.
Able was the son of Adam.
If you really read Genesis, with proper Hebrew translations...it states that Eve "continued in labor" and bore a second child...so they were maternal twins.
When Jesus confronts the people who are against him in the gospels he says "You are of your father, the Devil"! He means this in a real sence. There are a race of people mentioned in the Bible called Kinnites (sp?) which translates "sons of Cain".
There is so much in Genesis that is improperly translated that causes people to not get the story. One common question is, "If Adam and Eve were the first people...where did Cain's wife come from?" It states, after Cain was bannished, he went to the land of Nod and took a wife. How can this be?

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1st: The fruit could be symbolism of sin, but it seems more like it's plain just the was it was written, no symbolism really required. The sin was the act. If we did go along the lines of that symbol(as we can), the fruit would be the sin. And sin makes us ahamed. Would the fruit symbolize sin or shame? It said, as soon as both had eaten of the fruit, their eyes were opened, and they were ashamed. Before, they had no reason to be ashamed, because they did not sin.

2nd: I've thought about this a lot since I read your perspective on this. Where does it say Eve had sex with the serpent? Satan only tricked her to eat of the fruit. I think you're reading too far into the word "beguiled" than needed. The reason God says your father the devil is because Cain has listened to Satan, as many would listen to their fathers. It is more to tell Cain his horrible deed and how bad it was than the literal meaning. The fact that they were born together as maternal twins does not change anything.

3rd: The bible says that Adam and Eve were the first people made by God. Doesn't necessarily say that they were the only ones God made. I'm pretty certain God made more than just Adam and Eve.


And here's my question: When God kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden, he sealed the gates into the garden, but what of the garden? Did he move it? Did he burn it down? Did he put it in a different dimension? I'm pretty sure Eden was on earth, close to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. No one's run into the garden since Adam and Eve. Has God destroyed the Garden of Eden?

Please, does anyone have an answer?

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Originally Posted by beautifull

please, does anyone have an answer?

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please!!!!

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Originally Posted by Beautifull

Please, does anyone have an answer?

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No, nope.

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Originally Posted by Beautifull

please!!!!

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Do you really believe there's a possible way for anyone to know? :p I don't mean to discourage you, but there isn't :frown2:

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Originally Posted by Maximilianus

No, nope.


Do you really believe there's a possible way for anyone to know? :p I don't mean to discourage you, but there isn't :frown2:

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There can be some kind of...guessing. I'm thinking God moved the whole garden away to a different place...maybe Heaven...does anyone object at least? Where are those bible scholars when you need them?

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Originally Posted by Beautifull

Where are those bible scholars when you need them?

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Depends on their timezone... if they are way too nighty, then they must be sleepy... in their beddies :p

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Originally Posted by Beautifull

okay, so in Genesis, it said that Adam and Eve were trown out of the garden for eating the fruit....idk if this was brought up or not, but i'm wondering what would've happened if it were only Eve that ate of the fruit...

some say they wouldn't be thrown out b/c God only told Adam and it was up to Adam to tell Eve, but some would say they would b/c one of them ate it and God said no eating it...

so what do you think?

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Yeah, I think Adam and Eve would have been thrown out regardless of who ate the fruit. The point is that they were husband and wife; together as one. So, if your wife gets in trouble for eating what was forbidden then you might as well because you're married to her.

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Originally Posted by Maximilianus

Depends on their timezone... if they are way too nighty, then they must be sleepy... in their beddies :p

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:lol: Maybe...:p

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Originally Posted by Neo_Sephiroth

Yeah, I think Adam and Eve would have been thrown out regardless of who ate the fruit. The point is that they were husband and wife; together as one. So, if your wife gets in trouble for eating what was forbidden then you might as well because you're married to her.

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I think God thought it should be like that, and I agree that they would have been thrown out some kind of way. Well, that is true that they were husband and wife, but Adam got thrown out because God told ADAM to not eat of the fruit, but notice that God never told Eve, but Adam told her. So the reason why Adam was punished was because he disobeyed God directly. Maybe God would have destroyed the women of the world or something...or maybe she would have been put out the garden, ans the whole world as lived right now would be extravagantly different.