Let there be world peace.

Peace is not only the absence of war, it is the absence of oppression.

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Originally Posted by Dori

Obama was elected because of the following logic:

Bush = bad
Bush = McCain
Therefore, McCain = bad

But enough of that.

I wrote something a while ago that deals with this topic. I quote:



If I were to rewrite this, I believe it would be at least a little different, but oh well. Essentially what I was trying to say was that conflict brings purpose and rewards.

I am not pro-war, by the way.

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Sometimes conflict does bring purpose and rewards but think of the costs. No matter how the purpose and reward may overweigh the cost, conflict should be contained to the minimum. For example, conflict brings additional damage to substances that are neutral in the encounter. When the H-Bomb was dropped to Hiroshima, millions were afflicted harm heavily; costing their lives and the future lives of the next generation as harmful radiation caused mutation in unborn children. Yes, the purpose of silencing Japan was successful but consider the cost of the lives of the innocent. If there was no conflict in the first place, ie Japan attacking Pearl Harbour, there wouldnt be any retaliation therefore further destruction. Therefore, conflict should be avoided and peace selected for.

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Originally Posted by skasian

Sometimes conflict does bring purpose and rewards but think of the costs. No matter how the purpose and reward may overweigh the cost, conflict should be contained to the minimum. For example, conflict brings additional damage to substances that are neutral in the encounter. When the H-Bomb was dropped to Hiroshima, millions were afflicted harm heavily; costing their lives and the future lives of the next generation as harmful radiation caused mutation in unborn children. Yes, the purpose of silencing Japan was successful but consider the cost of the lives of the innocent. If there was no conflict in the first place, ie Japan attacking Pearl Harbour, there wouldnt be any retaliation therefore further destruction. Therefore, conflict should be avoided and peace selected for.

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Let me just simply add that we wouldn't know peace if it weren't for conflict. And conflict is responsible for the subject matter in a book I just got Masters of the Battlefield, so I'm content for now (how horrible! I know...).

Peace is an equilibrium.
There's always going to be conflict in the world.

But when a person finds balance, then there is peace.

pffttt

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Originally Posted by Dori

Let me just simply add that we wouldn't know peace if it weren't for conflict. And conflict is responsible for the subject matter in a book I just got Masters of the Battlefield, so I'm content for now (how horrible! I know...).

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But you agree that peace is desired over conflict right? I doubt that anyone will be favouring a WWIII that involves nuclear weapons.

Sectarian ideas and idealism or adherence to sets of faiths jeopardize peace.

This is an interesting thread, well-represented on both sides :).
"We are not of those who glorify war; when the opportunity presents itself we describe its realities. War has frightful beauties which we have not concealed; it has also, we must admit, some deformities."
-Les Miserables by Victor Hugo, translated by Charles Wilbour.

"Certain faculties of man are directed towards the Unknown; thought, meditation, prayer. The Unknown is an ocean. What is conscience? It is the compass of the Unknown. Thought, meditation, prayer, these are the great mysterious pointings of the needle. Les us respect them. Whither tend these majrestic irradiations of the soul? into shadow, that is, towards the light."
-Les Miserables

So, although I think that war is indeed inevitable, I do have hope for a better world someday. That hope however is very closely tied to my faith as a Christian.

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Originally Posted by andave_ya

This is an interesting thread, well-represented on both sides :).
"We are not of those who glorify war; when the opportunity presents itself we describe its realities. War has frightful beauties which we have not concealed; it has also, we must admit, some deformities."
-Les Miserables by Victor Hugo, translated by Charles Wilbour.

"Certain faculties of man are directed towards the Unknown; thought, meditation, prayer. The Unknown is an ocean. What is conscience? It is the compass of the Unknown. Thought, meditation, prayer, these are the great mysterious pointings of the needle. Les us respect them. Whither tend these majrestic irradiations of the soul? into shadow, that is, towards the light."
-Les Miserables

So, although I think that war is indeed inevitable, I do have hope for a better world someday. That hope however is very closely tied to my faith as a Christian.

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Thank you for sharing your quotes, they are insightful.
I like to say that I completely agree with your views and that a world with more peace than war is desirable.

I know I'm entering this thread late and I'm not very well versed at such things but I am confident that you will welcome me into the discussion. My understanding that it is through conflict that resolution is found. This is a positive, good thing. Society continually seeks to improve upon itself. In the balance of things, it ****s up terribly along the way while it aspires toward peace. Along the way it hits bumps in the road. Conflict. Resolutions happen here. Roads to peace are re-routed or more are created. I am confident that more bumps pop up.

I love that humankind doesn't destroy itself and manages to love and cherish one another amidst conflict, where it struggles for resolution. We are blessed in this respect.

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Originally Posted by Delta40

I know I'm entering this thread late and I'm not very well versed at such things but I am confident that you will welcome me into the discussion. My understanding that it is through conflict that resolution is found. This is a positive, good thing. Society continually seeks to improve upon itself. In the balance of things, it ****s up terribly along the way while it aspires toward peace. Along the way it hits bumps in the road. Conflict. Resolutions happen here. Roads to peace are re-routed or more are created. I am confident that more bumps pop up.

I love that humankind doesn't destroy itself and manages to love and cherish one another amidst conflict, where it struggles for resolution. We are blessed in this respect.

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Welcome to this thread, any views that are seen in any thread are important, and we value and respect them.

I agree that conflict can be a positive aspect but only if it accounts in the improvement between a group or society. I believe that it is conflict that sometimes brings a group or society closer together and strengthens their relationship as they begin to recognise the differences that may of commenced the conflict from the beginning.