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I'm also in a philosophy forum, but now unfortunately I will not have the time for write in forums. :bawling:
As I said, my vacations is ending (tomorrow I'll work) and tonight I'll have class.
Maybe I can give you my e-mail and we can practice our French.
Ça va?
My compliments for you and your husband.
au revoir
Borges had a fame as supporter of the militar dictadorships in Argentina didn't painted him a good light for Neruda. In other hand, Borges already disliked the communist sittuation in Russia, which he saw as destructive, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Antiquarian
Also, there is funny dispute about Walt Whitman interpretation :p
Some claim that the "rival" of the Borges in the Alleph is a mockery of Neruda (Who became famous faster than Borges) and I know Borges have called him a second-rate romantic poet.
I also agree that Borges poetry is far from great as his prose. But I would think that the true heir of Whitman is Fernando Pessoa, superior to both of them in poetic terms.
For me:
the most poetical language is French.
the most musical languages are:
- Italian (opera, for example), Laura Pausini is a great pop singer and another example.
- Spanish (salsa and bolero from Cuba), (tango from Argentina)...
- Arabic (Amr Diab, for example).
Portuguese has a bit of all thouse languages.
Try to listen to a Portuguese Fado, a Brazilan Bossa Nova or other things like: Ivan Lins, Milton Nascimento, Djavan...
Go to youtube.
English is beutiful too. I can not imagine a best language for the blues and the rock and roll.
About the French forum, I do not know if I can post here, so seach on Google: etudes litteraires or litterature forum en français.
You will find me there.
The most poetic language is French? hmm strange choice, but it doesn't seem to make sense. Theoretically speaking, the best language for poetry is probably the one with the most inflection, since it enables the most clever wording, and play with sounds. That is why, in terms of mechanics, Anglo-Saxon poetry is so fun to read. That is also why Dante is so great to read, because of his metre. Tennyson is probably the true master of sound and metre in its every form in the English tradition, which I think is the reason why he still remains famous.
But seriously, I would take Japanese even over French for poetic language.
A romance language, of course!
Just joking;)
But there is a good reason for the name!
Now, more about Brazilian literature:
The pediod of the Romantismo (firt momment: 1825 - 1840):
Example of Romantismo:
The epic poem "I Juca Pirama" written by Gonçalves Dias, tells the history about a indian warrior (from the Tupi).
It is a poem divided in ten chants.
verse metre: alexandrinos (12) and decassílabos (10)
Federative Republic of Brazil
Capital: Brasília
Language: Portuguese
Anthem: Hino Nacional Brasileiro (see on youtube)
See pictures on Google-images for:
drinks: Caipirinha, guaraná, coffe, all kinds of Brazilian fruits for juice.
foods: Feijoada, Moqueca, Churrasco
other things to eat: pão de queijo (cheese bread), açaí.
Music - See on youtube:
rhytms: Chorinho, Samba, Bossa Nova, Forró (Baião/ Xote), Frevo...
male singers: Tim Maia, Milton Nascimento, Djavan, Raul Seixas, Cazuza, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso, Luis Gonzaga, Alceu Valença, Zé Ramalho.
female singers: Maria Rita, Elis Regina, Marisa Monte, Cássia Eller.
Pop groups: Legião Urbana, Titãs, Paralamas do Sucesso.
Classical composers: Villa-Lobos, Carlos Gomes.
Popular Brazilian Music composers: Tom Jobim, Cartola, Pixinguinha, Chico Buarque, Toquinho & Vincícius de Moraes, Tonico & Tinoco.
Thinkers
Theology: Leonardo Boff
Pedagoy: Paulo Freire
Visual Arts
sculptor: Aleijadinho
Painters:
Victor Meireles, Pedro Américo, Anita Malfatti, Tarsila do Amaral, Candido Portinari
Other things
martial arts: Capoeira, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Idols: Ayrton Senna, Pelé
Historic figure: Santos Dumont (creator/ inventor of the airplane and many other inventions)
things to be proud:
- the beauty of our nature (beaches, forests, animals) - indeed that's the main theme of our Anthem. Our National hymn is not only a militar chant, but it is a declaration of love. A very rich poetry;
- our participation and victories at the Second World War against the Nazi (especially in Italy, where our tropes were in largiest number);
- our harmonic and pacific way of life between any religion and any ethinic group;
- our literature, theatre and cinema;
- our athletes: espacially in voley, basket, football (soccer) and some individual arrangements as riding, sailing, marathon...
- the architecture of Brasilia (by Oscar Niemeyer), the nature of Rio de Janeiro, the notheast folk culture, the cosmopolitan life of São Paulo, the picturesque weather of south, the Pantanal, the Rainforest.
O Alienista (the alienist, I do not know how to translate it) -
A doctor, owner of a hospice, discover a pattern to classify madness: everything that is beyond the normal is madness.
The doctor put into his clinic some people who have such behaviour.
Later, almost all the city people are hospitalized, and the city almost empty, because he discovered that almost all people have this pattern of behaviour.
But he thinks "the majority must provides the standard of behaviour". Then he begins to consider mad the "balanced people". He gives freedom to the mad ones to submit the minority "healthy" of individuals to an intensive treatment.
In the end, all are healed, but the doctor hospitalizes himself.
That was just a resume about a book of Machado de Assis.
Machado was very ironic and original in his works.
His books have a fine sense of elegance and sarcasm, both working together.
Machado de Assis is read by several personalities, among them Woody Allen.
For those who want to read O Alienista and other stories, I recommend the book:
50 stories of Machado de Assis, selected by John Gledson.
John Gledson is Professor of Brazilian Studies at the University of Liverpool.
Machado de Assis (Rio de Janeiro, 1839 — Rio de Janeiro, 1908), in his book The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas, created a currious narrator: Bras Cubas is a ghost (a deceased) that comes from the grave to tell his own history.
- Bras Cubas (Narrator): I am a "deceased author", not an "author deceased" reporting his memoirs, and more, describing his own delirium.
(sorry about the translation, maybe it will make no sense in English)
Often, the narrator drives his words to the reader: "Come with me, dear reader, let's see this little house..." It's a common thing in Machado's books.
So, the narrator says a curious detail about himself:
Perhaps, the frankness (meaning: sincerity) that I expose and stress my mediocrity alarmes the reader ; I warn that openness (=frankness, sincerity) is the first virtue of a deceased. In life, the look of view, the contrast of interests, the greed of people... oblige (requires) us to silence the old rags, disguise the tears and passions, ... because in that case, you can save the shame, which is a painful feeling, and hypocrisy, which is a horrible addiction. But in death, what a difference! What freedom!
I think that is a photography of our society till today. Even now, in this very forum, we're trying to hide the poorness of our speech, or in Bras Cubas narrator's word: "to silence the old rags".
Quincas Borba, a philosopher character from another Machado's novel, appears also in this book, the Posthumous Memoirs, talking to the living Bras Cubas (not to the "deceased author" and narrator, but to the living one).
So, in this intertextuality, we can see a character (Quincas Borba), as a living person with a past, a full history (from the homonym novel), talking to another character (Bras Cubas) as a living person, and all this scene is narrated by the "deceased Bras Cubas".
So, I think (as Bras Cubas did after his death) we must apart ourselves from the things which we think we know, then in fact, we will have a little idea about what life means. You don't need to wait for your death to do that (as Bras Cubas did), you can do that while you are reading this text (or latter, but not to late).
My advice for all:
Learn another language, know more about other cultures, travel a lot, search for other readings, study philosophies, analyse your life before it is too late...
Open your eyes for the unknown.
In Lusitania (today Portugal) there were two ethinic groups living: Celtics and Iberics. The language spoken was a mix of two languages: Celtic + Iberic = Celtiberic.
Then, began the foreign invasions.
- Came the first invasion: Ligore
- The second invasion:Phoenicians (they came from where we call today Lebanon). The Phoenicians were sailors and they founded a port in Lusitania, called "Porto Cale", today Porto City, north of Portugal (indeed, the name of the country came from the name of the old port founded by the Phoenicians sailors).
- The third invasions came from Greece. The greeks were sailors as well. So, Since the begining, the tradition of sailing became very familiar to the Lusitan people.
Until that moment, the language was a mix of Celtiberic + Ligore + Phoenicians + Greek.
- Then came to Lusitania the most important influence, the Latin (Roman Empire invasion). Latin is the basic structure of any Romance language.
- After the fall of the Roman Empire, came the Visigoths. So, Germanic became another influence.
- Another invasion came: Arabs (called Moors). They were Islam (Muslims) - for 300 years in Iberic Peninsula. A Great contribution in architecture, language, sciences and agriculture.
- The book Os Lusíadas (Lusiads) by Camões is a epic poem, it tells about the war between the kingdom of Portugal (Catholic) and the Muslims. But the main theme of Os Lusíadas is the navigation around the African continent trying to find a new route to India. The Portuguese sailors became heros in that poem (Indeed, Portugal was the first european nation, the political power became centralised and the Portuguese people, with the tradition of sailing and the strategic geographical position, went to the sea before anyone). Till today, the Fado (Portuguese folk song) have the sea as main theme. In songs, girls cry for their husbands in sea, and the feeling is "saudade" (= to miss something).
- So until this moment, the Portuguese language were a mix of Celtiberic + Ligore + Phoenicians + Greek + Germanic + Arabic; and the main structure is the Latin language.
Colonization of Brazil by the Portuguese people:
Some words entered into the Portuguese language:
-From Tupi-Guarani (one of the groups of languages, spoken by native indians in Brazil);
-From Bantu (came from the African people);
Independece of Brazil:
- The languages of the immigrants (Italian, German, Japanese) gave some words to Portuguese language. New words came especially from the Italian.
- French was the language that had the greatest influence at the time.
Today:
Portuguese has influence from English, in some words (about information technology, marketing terms, etc)
Brazilian paintings
Victor Meireles:
http://fernando.blogueisso.com/wp-co...eirelles04.jpg
Rodolfo Amoedo:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...amoio_1883.jpg
Anita Malfatti (Brazilian Modernism):
http://semdestino.files.wordpress.co...a-malfatti.jpg
Candido Portinari:
http://www.historianet.com.br/imagen...ada_grande.jpg
Tarcilia do Amaral:
http://mypreview.files.wordpress.com.../abaporu50.jpg
Tarcilia do Amaral:
http://www.fashionbubbles.com/wp-con.../image0013.jpg
Tarcilia do Amaral:
http://www.mac.usp.br/projetos/secul...ges/anegra.jpg
Brazilian Sculpture and Architecture
Aleijadinho (Brazilian Barroque and other styles):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eijadinho8.jpg
Aleijadinho:
http://www.lepanto.com.br/Imagens/wcongac1.jpg
Most famous work by Aleijadinho: The 12 Prophets
Where: Minas Gerais
Oscar Niemeyer:
http://www.mirage.com.br/mirage/comu...rasilia_01.jpg
(Brasília architecture)
Oscar Niemeyer:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rasilia.01.jpg
(Cathedral of Brasília)
This is amazing! A modern architecture?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brasil
Yes, at the time it was polemic. The Catholic Church did not want to celebrate inside that church, but today it is one of the symbols of the Brasília city and Oscar Niemeyer work.
know more about his work and life:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Niemeyer
There are amazing pictures there.
For other Brazilian personalities:
Heitor Villa-Lobos, classical music composer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDZU...eature=related
Listen to Villa-Lobo's Trenzinho Caipira (Hillbilly Train) one of the most beautiful compositions of the maestro.
Also, listen to the Bachianas Brasileiras:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06B1...eature=related
Alberto Santos Dumont, an early pioneer of aviation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos_Dumont
Paulo Freire, an educator and an influential theorist of education:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire
In the twenty-first century stereotypes prejudiced as those shown in the film Hulk, destroy the image of Brazil.
1 - Why always show the slums instead of showing the beauty of Brazil?
2 - The factories in Brazil go through a rigorous process of review. The hygiene is the most important point. The products made in Brazil are of excellent quality. But the factory was dirty in the movie!
3 - No one, not even the Brazilian army has authorization to enter into a shantytown. In Brazil, there are laws on the quality of life and personal freedom. Only the police of Rio has permission to invade a shantytown, even then, only in extreme cases. But the Hulk movie shows the American army invading the Brazilian territory and shooting with a firearm inside a shantytown. Absurd!
The U.S. army has no authorization, no right, and even he had the right, he has no strategy for that kind of mission.
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