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Originally Posted by querida

I don't mean to sound ignorant... but would you mind helping me by letting me know where the 49 commandments came from? I'm not asking you to site them... just wondering what you mean by them... are they ones sited throughout the books of the law, or ... I can't think of any other source than that.... but do you have them listed somewhere or something?
I believe Matthew 22:37-39: Jesus replied "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second one is like it: "Love your neighbor as yourself" All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. Isn't that enough?

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I am not getting into the 49 commandments as you addressed that questioned to Adeheid, and I have enough faith in her ability to answer you that I would not presume to answer for her. She is a wonderful Christian lady, and doesn't need my help to spread the seeds of faith. I will address your question of "Isn't that enough?" Remember the Rich Young Ruler? He came to Christ and asked how to receive Eternal Life. Christ told him that he knew the commandments and he stated he had kept them all from his youth up. I'll point out here that Jesus, who knew the very hearts of men did not call him a liar. He had kept them even as he said. But Christ said he lacked one thing: "Sell whatsoever thou hast,and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasue in heaven; and come, take up the cross and follow me." Mark 10:21 And he couldn't do that because his wealth meant more to him than Jesus did.

It is not just following the letter of the law. "The letter killeth, but the spirt giveth life" II Corinthians 3:6. You see, just following the letter of the law means you will only do your duty and not beyond it. That was this young man's problem. He would do as the law required, but no more. If he had given his due for the month people could starve before he would give any more. We should never assume we have done enough. If we weigh what we do for Him against what He went through for us, it is less than a grain of sand against the highest mountain. We can never do enough to repay Him. So we try to do every thing in our power to do anything He might ask of us.

I trust you will let this encourge you to do your best, not take it as a "I'll never measure up" statement. A final encouragment from Jude 1:24-25 "Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you fautless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy. To the only wise God our Savior, be gorly and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen."

God Bless and keep you. :angel:

Oh, someone actually compiled all of Christ's commands (to make it easier for us to obey them if we knew them!). I don't know if you've heard of Mr. Bill Gothard? He stays in the US, but travels a bit to teach in conferences and seminars, etc.

Yeah, the Great commandment and the Royal Commandment are the 2 most important commandments. But all in all, Christ gave us 49 commandments, the last of which is the great commission.

Here is the 49 commandments which I spoke about. They are NOT in order of importance, because I believe they are all equally important as being God's commands. Rather, they are in order of time. Whichever was stated first will be first. :)

1. Repent (matt 4:17)
2. Follow Me (Matt 4:19)
3. Rejoice (Matt 5:11-12)
4. Let your light shine (Matt 5:14-16)
5. Honour God's law (MAtt 5:16)
6. Be Reconciled (Matt 5:23-24)
7. Do not commit Adultery (Matt 5:29)
8. Keep your Word (Matt 5:37)
9. Go the 2nd mile (Matt 5:38-42)
10. Love your enemies (Matt 5:44-46)
11. Be perfect (Matt 5: 46-48)
12. Practise Secret Disciplines (Matt 6:3-18)
13. Lay up treasures (Matt 6:19-21)
14. Seek God's kingdom (Matt 6:33)
15. Judge not (Matt 7:1-3)
16. Do not cast pearls (Matt 7:6)
17. Ask, Seek, Knock (Matt 7:7-8)
18. Do unto others (Matt 7:12)
19. Choose the Narrow Way (Matt 7:13-14)
20. Beware of False Prophets (Matt 7:15-16)
21. Pray for labourers (Matt 9:37-38)
22. Be wise as Serpents (Matt 10:16)
23. fear not (Matt 10:28)
24. Hear God's voice (Matt 11:15)
25.Take My yoke (Matt 11:28-30)
26. Honour your parents (Matt 15:4)
27. Beware of Leaven (Matt 16:6)
28. Deny yourself (Luke 9:23-25)
29. Despise not little ones (Matt 18:10)
30. Go to Offenders (Matt 18:15)
31. Beware of covetousnous (Luke 12:15)
32. Forgive Offenders (Matt 18:21-22)
33. Honour Marriage (Matt 19:4-6)
34. Be a servant (Matt 20:26-18)
35. Be a house of prayer (Matt 21:13)
36. Ask in Faith (Matt 21:21-22)
37. Bring in the Poor (Luke 14_12-14)
38. Render to Caesar (Matt 22:19-21)
39. Love the Lord (Matt 22:37-38)
40. Love your Neighbour (Matt 22:39-40)
41. Await my return (Matt 24:42-44)
42. Take, Eat, Drink (Matt 26:26-27)
43. Be born again (John 3:7)
44. Keep my commandments (John 14:15)
45. Watch and Pray (Matt 26:41)
46. Feed my sheep (John 21:15-16)
47. Baptize my disciples (matt 28:1)
48. Receive God's power (Luke 24:49)
49. Make disciples (Matt 28:20)

I hope you will try to read through each of them and memorise them. That's what I am working towards. :) God bless you! :wave:

Just beware of legalism,ok? Always remember: not by our works, but by God's grace.

Wow! I thought you were jokeing when you said there are 49. I mean I know there were many (possibly thousands) before Moses brought the ten cammandments down from the mountain, so i thought yoyu were making an allusion to that. I'm surprised that none of these commandment came from proverbs though. Who gathered them?

Dr. Bill Gothard was the one who 'gathered' them. He did a study to look for all of Christ's commandments, and there we have the 49 of them. He also matched 49 Character Qualities with the 49 commandments. These CQ are essential in order for one to follow the commands :)

There certainly are other commandments throughout Scripture.

Uh...Can there be a thread here just for Christians just like there can be for Jews? Or Muslims? Or Atheists? Or Evolutionists?
Or can there be a thread ABOUT those faiths that people of OTHER faiths can come in to ask questions (respectfully)?

Hi, DTrent. Welcome to the Forum! You mus be new here. :)

I don't quite understand your question. But you can post almost anything you want to talk about here, except several things. I think you can't talk about Politics, and you are suppose to respect the faith and believes of others. But yeah... other than that, you can set up any thread on any subject you like, in any category that it happens to fall under. :D

You can ask for help from any of the users here, and I think all will be happy to help you. :nod: Have a great day! :wave:

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Originally Posted by DTrent

Uh...Can there be a thread here just for Christians just like there can be for Jews? Or Muslims? Or Atheists? Or Evolutionists?
Or can there be a thread ABOUT those faiths that people of OTHER faiths can come in to ask questions (respectfully)?

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You said the magic word there, DTrent, respect. A thread can be about almost anything people believe in as long as there is respect for others, and people who post respect the beliefs of the person who started the thread. Anything on your mind in particular? Let's discuss it! Who knows what you may have to teach us or what you may learn from one of us? No one knows everything, that's why God created more than one of us! Welcome to the forum! PS. Like your atvar! :wave:

Welcome DTrent to the forum and we all are looking forward to hearing what you have to say. Everyone here is pretty respectful and we all enjoying learning about each other as well as our taste in literature. Hope you enjoy it here. :wave:

Ancestor, I am just wondering whether you actually consider yourself a Christian? I know from your posts that you view things a little differently than I do, and that's alright, because many people do. :nod: but I'm curious to know where you stand on matters of religion? Who is your God, if you have one? Can you describe your faith? You told me that your faith was different than mine, how? Where is it different?

I sincerely hope you are not offended by this. I just wanted to know.... :angel:

What would you say is the 3rd greatest commandment? Anyone?

The Great Commission. "Go ye into all the Earth and preach the Gospel". I think this is rather interesting. The first two letters in the word "God" spell "go". That is what He wants us to do as best we can, always remembering that we ourselves, are nothing, and that Christ is everything. The first three letters in the word "Satan" spell "sat", which he would be very happy if Christians did that and never tried to reach anyone else at all! And sometimes I wonder if that hasn't happened in a lot of cases, people figure "Well, I'm OK, and I had to make the decision for myself." True, but someone along the pathway told you about Him. Yes. I can only show you where to look. You have to seek to find. But woe to me if I don't try to show you where to look! Not force you, but try to help you. :angel:

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Originally Posted by Adelheid

27. Beware of Leaven (Matt 16:6)

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I understand the others, but I don't really understand what Jesus meant by that.
Could someone please explain it to me?

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Originally Posted by samercury

27. Beware of Leaven (Matt 16:6)
I understand the others, but I don't really understand what Jesus meant by that.
Could someone please explain it to me?

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Sam, just read all the way to the 12th verse and you'll find it explains itself. If you wonder about the doctrine of the Pharisees that Jesus was warning them about, read Matt 23:1-12 These people would talk a good sermon but not live a good sermon. God bless. :angel: :wave:

thanx adelheid that set of 49 commandments might be of great help...

hey pendragon i know u prayed for me...and here's a request to my other friends here...things going wrong in my family...n i juz love my family n it hurts to see them upset...please do pray!