Twilight

I like Bella the way she is, and I don't think she's too weak or too anti-feminist or too good or anything. There are all kinds of people in the world, so why should all protagonists be such "strong" characters? I think Bella has her strenghts and weaknesses just like anyone else, she's not perfect, and I don't feel Twilight books pose any threat for the status of women in the world (or if it does, then there's seriously something wrong in the society). I'm not saying all protagonists should be like her, no. I think it's good that we have different kinds of people portrayed in books :)

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

You are quite lovely, my dear, and bad skin clears; And now, you are here with us, so you don't have to be lonely. There are also alot of chat sites for people interested in languages.

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Thank you, soundofmusic :) The doctor said my skin might get better in about five or ten years, so I guess I'll just have to keep waiting. (I have an atopic skin which means it's very dry and highly irritable - it looks bad, and the constant itch makes it difficult to concentrate on anything or even to get sleep.) I'm really glad for this forum, at least I've got some human contact, even if it's just online :D

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Originally Posted by Annamariah

Thank you, soundofmusic :) The doctor said my skin might get better in about five or ten years, so I guess I'll just have to keep waiting. (I have an atopic skin which means it's very dry and highly irritable - it looks bad, and the constant itch makes it difficult to concentrate on anything or even to get sleep.) I'm really glad for this forum, at least I've got some human contact, even if it's just online :D

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I feel so bad for you; I can imagine slightly how you feel, I have to constantly change gloves when I'm working and after several 12 hour days, my right thumb and first finger look like hamburger (I have psoriasis and a number of allergies; and like you, I am fair) I wrap the areas in topical medications when I am sleeping, keep down my stress levels and take motrin for pain. I also constantly check all the forums and studies to find out if any new medications are out. Perhaps you can check out some of the studies as well. I hate to see a lovely young girl miss out on the most wonderful years of her life. :angel:

I'm agreed with you Arania. Since the author combined between two things are extremely unlike. Stephenie Meyer combined between "Romance" and " Violence" at the same time. This is what I loved in her work. I'm suggesting you to read other parts of that work. The next three parts are "New Moon", "Eclipse", "Break Down".

God keeps you Arania everywhere you go.

Saleh Alyamani

Note: This is my e-mail if you wanna contact me :

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This is a dirty dirty word

I forget that this is a literature forum, not a serious literature forum.

I don't mean to condescend anyone at all, so please don't think that I am. I just consider Twilight an overhyped farce. It's poorly written, the plot is monotonous, and it's unoriginal.

I've read all of the books available, so I'm not just some idle observer looking to bash Twilight.

But seriously, it's crap. I'd rather read Candide again and again than be force to read Stephanie Meyer's junk (I mean Twilight).

You sound pretty condescending for someone who doesn't mean to be. This is one of the reasons why I often don't like this forum at all. The same things are said over and over again, and those things are always negative. "Twilight sucks, Harry Potter sucks, I'm above such childish rot. Look at how smart I am!" It's pretty funny to see so-called "scholars" bashing children's (and teen) stories.

It sucks too, because it's not always childrens stories. I hate it when people bash books that made a huge impact on me. I can't see a reason for it. "Shakespeare's over-rated, The Grapes of Wrath is boring, Catcher in the Rye was pointless, ect." I'm starting to think that people here don't really like books at all.

I sort of agree with you Juniper, I notice that a lot of people bash books, even children's books, and even I sometimes fall to that.

I think it's sad that people will just say they don't like a book without giving a valid reason. I'm not going to deny it, i really don't like Stephanie Meyer's work, but people seem to forget that it was written for preteens. For older women or older teens who prefer a more mature reading experience, the probablity is that they won't like it.

I constantly tell everybody that Twilight is a stupid book and badly written, but i forget to mention that I'm a junior in high school and I like to read classics. If i were 12 or 13 years old again, chances are I probably would have enjoyed reading Twilight.

I learned the hard way, to not waste your energy over getting upset about other people's opinions, even if they express it in an immature, childish fashion.

I had found it curious that anyone would read all four books of Twilight if they really hated it. I am old enough to be Ices grandmother; and personally, I like the Twilight movie and the first two books; the only reason I am not partial to the 3rd book is that I don't care for Bellas new role. I am more interested in Edward and his family; I prefer Bella human, and I wasn't as interested in the family unit with a baby later in the series. So, I only read part of the 3rd book and stopped.
I find as an older adult, that there are nuances in childrens and teens books that only an older persons experience can appreciate. Sometimes when people are young, they are afraid to do anything that makes them seem immature; at 55, I have no such problem.
I like Stephanie Meyers writing style; it is more like a diary of a growing girl. So what if it isn't Shakespeare; what did people think of Shakespeare in his day. Not all of his works are superior!
I also like the Harry Potter series; though once again, I prefered the relationships in the first five books to the later ones.
To each his own!

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

I hate it when people bash books that made a huge impact on me. I can't see a reason for it. "Shakespeare's over-rated, The Grapes of Wrath is boring, Catcher in the Rye was pointless, ect." I'm starting to think that people here don't really like books at all.

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If you'd like to post a list of all the books that have had a huge impact on you, we'll all promise not to be horrid about them, ever, ever.

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Originally Posted by MarkBastable

If you'd like to post a list of all the books that have had a huge impact on you, we'll all promise not to be horrid about them, ever, ever.

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That's all I ask.

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Originally Posted by soundofmusic

I like Stephanie Meyers writing style; it is more like a diary of a growing girl. So what if it isn't Shakespeare; what did people think of Shakespeare in his day. Not all of his works are superior!

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They are to Twilight, lol.

For what Twilight is, it's okay. The thing that really bugs me though is that some people don't read anything else.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

You sound pretty condescending for someone who doesn't mean to be. This is one of the reasons why I often don't like this forum at all. The same things are said over and over again, and those things are always negative. "Twilight sucks, Harry Potter sucks, I'm above such childish rot. Look at how smart I am!" It's pretty funny to see so-called "scholars" bashing children's (and teen) stories.

It sucks too, because it's not always childrens stories. I hate it when people bash books that made a huge impact on me. I can't see a reason for it. "Shakespeare's over-rated, The Grapes of Wrath is boring, Catcher in the Rye was pointless, ect." I'm starting to think that people here don't really like books at all.

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First off, I'm not some highly-paid literary scholar attacking a poorly written series of books. I'm a 16 year old kid who thought they were crap. And, for the record, Harry Potter wasn't all that bad.

And, I'm not attacking YOUR taste in books, just the books in general. But if you choose to take my derogatory comments on a series and misinterpret that as me attacking you, who am I to stop you?



I don't know how to quote multiple users, so, for the person who is hold enough to be my grandmother, I read the entire Twilight series because it was a Christmas gift, and the uncle who bought me them was an English teacher. How that is significant: every time he'd swing by to hang around with the family, he'd ask how i like the books (once every 2 or so weeks). He'd tell if I was BS'ing.
I don't want to insult him by wasting money on the books.

Reading some of theses posts, shows that Meyer has a way to pull the reader in and give her readers the idea that these characters are real people. She makes you go through and feel what her character is going through and feeling. I've read all of her books, including "The Host" and have liked all of them. I'm available for discussing the books with anyone who wants to, so pm me.

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Originally Posted by kelby_lake

They are to Twilight, lol.

For what Twilight is, it's okay. The thing that really bugs me though is that some people don't read anything else.

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I completely agree with your closing statement. Once every five years or so, it seems that there is a trendy series that comes along. First it was "A Series of Unfortunate Events" then along came "Harry Potter" Finally we wind up with "The Twilight Saga." All of these are good books; however, that is all most people want to read. People want to follow that trend. However, there is more to Literature than these trendy books. How many people actually take the time to read and interpret a classic, or for that matter, how many people actually interpreted "Twilight" and the meaning behind it and how Meyers beliefs and what not were put into the novels? People just read it because it is popular.

I marvel at how they have the patience to get through 4 bricks but they can't finish pretty short classics.