I hate Will Smith and his spawn more every day. 1/10.
Fitting.
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I hate Will Smith and his spawn more every day. 1/10.
Fitting.
That was cleansing. 7/10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKmEky7SPIQ
A little black metal, eh? I can't say I'm the biggest fan of CoF, but the music is wonderful vocals aside (as I find with most black metal). 8.10.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
Possibly the most controversial and "hardcore" black metal band out there.
Hmm - you see you keep posting stuff I'd need an operation to be able to sing along to. I didn't like the tune; it seemed like a kind of jazz metal. I like metal, not keen on jazz. 1/10Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
By the way what's controvercial about them? If it's anything about the music - well it's been done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7kUDkK70qQ
A barrel of amphetamine-fuelled magnolia-and-formica laughs, as ever from Mr Weller. 4/10
This is so redolent of the eighties that it actually looks like a meticulously-designed spoof made only last week for some BBC 4 comedy show. But, no, in 1985, winsome girlie pop really was this quaint and bloodless and mannered.
Kind of good, actually... I like the beginning (pre-vocals.) 6/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng
The controversy does not stem from the music, as you're correct, it's been done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulclem
The vast majority of metal bands who use Satan as an image of their music use it as just that, an image (Alis Cooper, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, even Slayer and Cannibal Corpse admit to it being mostly show--they don't really worship Satan). Very few actually worship Satan. Not so with Gorgoroth. They are true Satanists, especially their lead vocalist, Gaahl. Still, this isn't what's controversial, though it helps add to it (many of the Norwegian black metal bands profess to be Satan-worshippers in the true sense). Gorgoroth even professes that they aren't mostly about the music they create, but the message they send.
Some of the controversy stems from a series of over 50 church burnings that were committed by black metal musicians/fans in the 90s. Though Gaahl has never been implicated as taking part, he has openly praised the actions, and has stated that Christianity needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth.
Controversy also comes from a live performance that took place in Poland in 2004, in which, from Wikipedia (and cited on Wikipedia):
Gaahl was also imprisoned for nine months after being convicted of assault. Not only was this just a beating, but it allegedly went on for hours, Gaahl tying the man to a chair and torturing him and allegedly making him drink his own blood (the man he was beating's blood, that is) that he collected in cups. This is rumor, though Gaahl, to my knowledge, has nt denied doing it. When asked if he regrets his actions, he says he neither regrets them or is proud of them. At one point when asked why he did it (and I'm paraphrasing), he said, "When you start something, you have to finish it.Quote:
the band displayed sheep heads on stakes, a bloodbath of 80 litres of sheep's blood, Satanic symbols, and four naked crucified models on stage. A police investigation took place with allegations of religious offence (which is prosecutable under Polish law) and cruelty to animals.
Add to that Gaahl lives in a small mountain Cabin isolated for miles from any other living person in Norway, and you have yourself the making of an infamous metal legend. Let me say I do not condone any of Gaahl's actions, nor do I endorse church burnings; quite the opposite. Still, I find the story of this band fascinating. There's a really interesting documentary about all of this, including interviews with Gaahl. I question how much of Gaahl's persona is an act (the Norway setting alone is enough to help it), but I'm pretty sure he's got a couple screws loose, even if all the rumors are untrue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4U33U_UyzQ
I'll let the next poster rate jmnixon95's song.
9/10. What more can be said? You can draw a straight line from The Beatles to every innovative rock or pop artist of the last 30 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmnixon95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQaUs...eature=related
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
It's funny what was popular then. I remember the song, but I don't know where from.
Great song. 10/10Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
It reminded me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgGqv-H4LxQ
Thanks for all the effort Mutatis - very interesting.:thumbs_upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
Baby Now That I've Found You is one of dozens of songs - including The Letter, Band of Gold, Build Me Up Buttercup, Judy in Disguise, Walk Away Renee, Wichita Lineman - that I have known all my life but which I didn't consciously register as wonderful until well into my thirties. I think I'd written them off as 'just pop songs'. 9/10
Paddy McAloon's stuff was melodic, intelligent, intricate and honest - but he made it look so effortless that he got less recognition than he deserved, I think.
McAloon is criminally underrated, though he deserves a certain amount of obscurity for naming his band Prefrab Sprout. 9/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwG9mypJhoU
Always liked Johnny Cash, and always love his covers. 9/10.
A great comedic metal band.
I too like Wichita Lineman. I haven't heard this version. 8/10. I think Glen's version is a 9/10 because his melodic voice seems to suit the tune better.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
I liked Prefab sprout too. Here's another that I've always liked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbYLjWEEQA
Great wah wah.
Hmmm, a little repetitive, Paul, 7/10
My son introduced me to this performer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be-loLSUWT0
Pretty good, obviously a very talented musician and a great song to cover (if not overplayed). 8/10.
Are you a fan of System of a Down, qimissung?
And, since I got skipped (not intentionally), I'll repost mine.
A great comedic metal band.
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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
The problem with parodying metal - like the problem with parodying horror movies - is that knowing self-mockery is built in to the form, so it tends to be funnier when it's serious than when it's funny. Still, I quite like that - once. 5/10
The best thing to come out of the Velvet Underground...
That was quite beautiful. 10/10
Here is a favorite song as sung by two of my favorite singers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1lqTaVWR9w
It's ok. 5.5/10Quote:
Originally Posted by qimissung
How about this from the 80's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng
That video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in my country on copyright grounds. :(
You're not missing much. 4/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usl-h5f-8W0
That's a great song 9/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
Pity about Marvin. He lived in Holland for a year or so as an ordinary person. A family supported him through his drug problems, but he returned to the US. He had more success with sexual healing, and then died in a shooting incident involving his Father. He had gone back to the celebrity lifestyle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv_wZQJYlo0
Love it. 8/10
But I'm in the mood for something slow, plaintive, and feminine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Glod-RNc0
I like Norah Jones, though I think she's a bit overrated. 6/10.
Evil :cornut:.
To my surprise, I like it. Love the video. 8/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0zdsFK824
It made me chuckle. I don't know if that's the intended response, but it wasn't one of displeasure, so 6/10.
Speed Incarnate.
As a display of technical proficiency, 10/10. As a song, it lacked a certain, er, je ne sais quoi. 2/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5fOvcta3Ws
Agree completely. I'm not crazy about the song, but damn, George Kollias is a machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
As for your song, it's alright. Never have been a huge fan of Peter Gabriel. All his songs are too repetitive for my taste. Leaving Genesis was the worst decision he ever made, in my opinion. 5/10.
Possibly my favorite instrumental ever.
Oh dear, no. That's horrible. It sounds like a truck-full of techno instruments going over a cliff. I could here Ginastera in there, but the original is so much better. 2/10.
How about something a little different?
I can see why one wouldn't like the ELP version, but it isn't like they did it without Ginastera's approval--quite the opposite, actually. He liked it so much it made him cry; he said about it, "You have captured the essence of my music, and no one's ever done that before."
As to your song, it's okay. Never been a fan of choir music. 4/10
Here's the original.
Not a patch on the 3rd movement if you ask me. 5/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mElryeFD-U
Nick Cave, the Ramones, Eels, Zappa - I don't necessarily like everything they do, but I'm glad someone's out there doing it. 6/10
Here's another I regard in the same way.
If that song is indicative of their oeuvre, I'd hazard that Van der Graaf Generator's fan base is comprised mainly of virgins and/or the band's close friends and family. 2/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWF9MMxnekQ
On the whole, you're right. I seem to remember waking up one morning in the summer of 1977, surrounded by empty gin bottles and unfamiliar limbs, and thinking, "I'm not sure I like Van Der Graaf Generator quite as much as I did this time yesterday."Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
There are all sorts of ways in which bands can be overrated, but none ever did it as comprehensively as the Pistols. 3/10Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
Whenever one of those 'favourite albums' conversations comes up, I rapidly narrow it down to four or five, and this one always makes the final table.
Never understood the appeal of Tom Waits. 1/10.
Always reminds me of the Bowzer levels of Super Mario Brothers.
P.S. Van Der Graf Generator is awesome. Prog forever.
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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
It's the classical-stuff-that-ELP-covered thread! Which, to be fair to Keith Emerson, comprised most of my education in classical music.
I always thought it was 'Bear Mountain'. So it's 'Bare Mountain'?
Anyway, not bad at all. 7/10
While we're around there, this is one of my favourite melodies in any genre.
I don't know. On the Mussorgsky album I have, it's titled "Night on Bare Mountain." Everywhere else I've seen it, it's titled "Night on Bald Mountain."
As to your song, a little slow and saft for my tastes, but still enjoyable. 7/10.
Continuing with my ELP cover theme.
Emerson, Lake and Palmer are at once both a testament to the commercial and artistic possibilities of progressive rock, and a salutary reminder as to why it is, when all is said and done, largely a waste of time. 6/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLFLrTnue9s
It's an interesting observation, and worth a bit of exploration.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsmith
The late John Peel - who, as non-Brits may not not know, was the most respected DJ on the BBC, and who provided a route to the airwaves for just about every emergent genre of popular music from the late Sixties to the Nineties - once mused that he'd been mistaken about what would be remembered.
"I thought that the progressive stuff would be the legacy - ELP, Genesis, Yes - but it turned out that what really stayed with people was Build Me Up Buttercup."
(I'm paraphrasing - I can't find the actual quote.)
He wasn't bitter or defensive about it - he was simply admitting to having backed the wrong horse.
But actually, he wasn't as wrong as he thought. People do still listen to the prog stuff from the Seventies (especially in America), and it's not just fifty-somethings harking back to their youth. 'Progressive' music is as much part of the canon as Motown and bubblegum and Britpop.
And that's all it is. What prog failed to do was change everything. Foxtrot didn't represent an evolutionary advance from Sgt Pepper, from which there was no turning back. It was a new branch - just another limb of a tree that kept growing in every direction at once.
George Martin said that the great shame about the Beatles splitting up was that they were on the verge of developing a completely new format for pop music - one that transcended the three-minute song. You can see his point. While prog adopted the forms - and quite often the content - of classical music, or attempted to address themes more usually associated with 'serious' art, the second side of Abbey Road represented an innovative exploration of what pop music could do that was firmly rooted in what it had done up to then. That, had it been pursued, might have changed everything in a way that prog failed to.
So I don't think that prog rock is largely a waste of time - or, at least, no more of a waste of time than jazz-rock or Stax - but I do think that it sets itself up for a quite pointed form of hubris, because its aspires to something more than merely being a sub-genre of pop music. If one regards it in the same light as any other sub-genre, then - predictably - there's good stuff and bad stuff. One picks and chooses, and then launches oneself into exactly the kind of arguments for and against that this thread's set up to provoke.
Having said that, sixsmith, my taste in music and yours seem to coincide most of the time, so I consider it my sacred duty to put you right about the intermittent genius of Paul Simon. So - 7/10 for Springsteen, and here's the crooning gnome doing his bit for zydeco.