There should be something, something unusually grim and mysterious, with a person to being 'repulsed' by others. Assess yerself first before blaming others for your shortcomings!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
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There should be something, something unusually grim and mysterious, with a person to being 'repulsed' by others. Assess yerself first before blaming others for your shortcomings!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
"Hell is other people." Jean-Paul SartreQuote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Since you seem to believe in ""hell'' it implies you also believe in 'another people', ie ''Heaven''!Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Inside the heads of madmen is another people and another hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Sometimes I fail to understand why some people are intrigued by the thought of 'hell' rather than 'heaven'?? What if there is none?? What if there are both with 'angels' waiting there to extend their 'hospitality' to the arrived ??
Or maybe human nature is a God in itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
"Man simply is", no nature explains him. If there is a God, he is as baffled as the rest of us on account of free will; and if he is baffled, he's not God; and if he is not baffled, he's not God.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChilly
Interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChilly
Wonder if humans are the image of God...and are the same as Him in traits. Here is some reference to those 'traits'....
http://www.faizani.com/articles/names.html
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam
Let's not blame God..
''Your life does not change when your boss changes, when your friends change, when your parents change, when your partner changes, when your company changes. Your life changes when YOU change, when you go beyond your limiting beliefs, when you realize that you are the only one responsible for your life.''
Author Unknown
In fact it is really hard to say about God. Was this world created? How was it created? The universe has stars, planets, galaxies and all the stuff. If God is a creator from where God bring forth all else? Is there a very muscular God? First we must think what is the source of our ideas about God. Two sources: one what we hear from our elders and second we read in our scriptures. God is therefore in their words and or in the letters of scriptures. Are these sources reliable?
I often feel God exists but not the scriptural or personal God. God is consciousness and I cannot say God created the universe as some of our scriptural texts have described
Where did this ''consciousness'' come from?? Who made all this mumble jumble??? Who's running the 'show'??Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
Maybe it is YOUR GodQuote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
my God or not, who and where is YOURS??Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
My God? I have no personal GodQuote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
God is always universal. Love may be personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
"Faith goes up the stairs
Love has built
and looks out the window
which Hope has opened..."
- Charles Spurgeon
And jumps.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
...and jumpsQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
with a parachute of Faith on!!
" Adam che serahe buad w^a ruh chu mai
Qallb chu nai buad sada'e dar w^ai
Dani che buad adam-i-khaki Khayyam
Fanus-1-khiyall wa chiraghe dar wai." Omar Khayyam.
' Man is a cup, his soul the wine therein,
Flesh is a pipe, spirit the voice therein,
O Khayyam have you fathomed what man is ?
A magic lantern with a light therein." (Whinfield).
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Matalab wafa ki ghair jafa nest kar eshan." Anwar-i-Suhbili.
' Faith does not company with worldly men.
From those habit is injustice, then
Expect not truth." Eastwick.
Haha. Touche. I admire the holy fool like nobody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Khayyam was very wise in saying that we have not been able to fathom what man is and what the universe is and to try fathom it we have invented Gods, religions and all the rest. In this make-believe world we are warring humans sheer for articulating our faith shadowing others'. Every faith has a God and I am confused which God I have to run after.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
" 'Al'alimu arafa 'Ijahila ra'innabu kana jahilan, ■wa'ljahilu la yarifa
'lallma I'ainnaliu ma kana 'aliman."
" The wise man understands the fool for he was once a fool himself, but
the fool does not understand the wise man because he was never wise."
Prov.
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Rumi
" After all soul is linked to body
Though it in nowise resembles the body
The power of the light of the eye is mated with fat
The light of the heart is hidden in a drop of blood
Joy harbors in the kidneys and pain in the liver
The lamp of reason in the brains of the head.
These connections are not without a why and how
But reason is at a loss to understand the how." (Whinfield).
It is not always wise to be utterly foolish but it is always foolish to be overly wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Hariki Maqamat 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
" Keep to truth though it scorch thee with the fire of threatening, and
seek to please God ; for the most foolish of mankind is he who angers the
master and pleases the slave." (Chenery).
"A hint sufficeth for the wise, but a thousand speeches profit not, theQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
heedless."
Arabic proverb.
A chicken without its head runs everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Is there a demarcation that alienates Master from Slave? I believe in unity in which master and slave live in armsQuote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
In which world do you live??? Most of us are slaves of our desires!Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
The different path of the one-eyed cow.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
(Meaning: The fool strays from the safe path.)
Bengali Proverb
Safety is in numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
If 'safety were in numbers' bugs would be ruling the world!!Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Does it matter wherever I live? Can you do away with your desire? The desire of worshiping God, of alienating yourself from reality, of muddling yourself with so many scriptural trashes and the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
I have not so much desire as commonsense!!Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
Write down a 'scriptural trash' if you can and I will take you as my prophet!!
" The prophets chose the better part, futurity.
The foolish chose the worst, the world's fatuity.
Each bird will flock with birds of its own feather still
The **** well knows his mate and follows where she will."
Rumi/
Redhouse.
Well, I didn't know ''c**k' was a bad word appearing in the dictionaries all over!
Bugs do rule the Earth, and I mean to squash them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Huh! Bugs without brains and a fish of scant water!!Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
If a fish of little water moves to a lot of water, that fish will jump around a lot.
Bengali proverb.
A worm in dirt wiggles a hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
A pig will eat his own poop!!Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Pakistani proverb
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And this one is for the sane and sober!!
Ghazzali.
" Up ! up ! only a little life is left, and the road before thee is long and
thou art immersed in illusion."
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A pig will feed on all kinds of slop.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Down, down, goes the worm into the earth, and releases a whole lot of contentment from its home.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
Down goes the wormQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
deep into the alley
enriching the place
letting rose sprout!!
Only a pig hater can ban the Muppets.
Down, down, goes the worm
To dig up a corpse
So that it shall not rise
Even upon Halloween.
makes a pig of him
sows farrow
pigs on, pigs on
and falls down in his sty
until the worm
guttles up the hog
and make him grunt
'never again, my lord,
the worm hurts!
he's on the pig's back
The maggots of unreason are manifold.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
He doesn't know meQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
He hasn't seen me
He doesn't like me
He doesn't trust me
He hates me
He cusses me
Yet he is obsessed
with my thought.
Talks about me all the time!
Why, is he crazy??
No, he's bereft of good sense
doesn't know good from bad
He is a child in the cradle
sucking his thumb
Unable to think
like the maggots of unreason
manifold!
The child in the cradle goes wah.
He has such delicate ears.
To hear, it breaks his heart,
This poor poet, this poor man.
O the sweet sound of tender feelings,
They have vanished in bigotry.
The sweet child wonders
And then doesn't.
A child is a child
even if he attained consciousness
only proper grooming will
let a tiny plant grow into a tree;
a fry into a whale.
everything is endemic
to earth,water or ether
but a child never knows
Until he's taught to understand
the Truth.
A wilding infests his brain
kills his spirit
devours his soul
makes him cry all the time
with no rhythm and rhyme
Like a dwindled weed
stealing food from others
the parasite spends his life.
fugacious and futile
he spends his days and nights
destiny have denied him real life
no roses for him!!