Apparently, if S6 gets good ratings and high viewership, SYTYCD will be permanently moved to the fall season.
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Apparently, if S6 gets good ratings and high viewership, SYTYCD will be permanently moved to the fall season.
^ This is going to be tricky, Tuesdays and Weds are big tv nights for me. Are you a NCIS fan? I have to figure out what to watch live, what to program and how to do it! :cold:
^ Yeah, I think that moving SYTYCD to the fall season is a huge mistake for FOX. There are so many shows to compete with. It was better off as a summer show.
Haunted, I know you said that you haven't really watched DWTS, but here are some of my favourite dances. Maybe they'll persuade you to check out DWTS9 when it starts on Monday, September 21.
Drew Lachey and Cheryl Burke - paso doble
Drew Lachey and Cheryl Burke - tango
Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas - foxtrot
Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas - cha cha
Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas - mambo
Emmitt Smith and Cheryl Burke - rumba
Stacy Keibler and Tony Dovolani - samba
Lance Bass and Lacey Schwimmer - mambo
Apolo Anton Ohno and Julianne Hough - samba
One crew has been assigned "I'm a Slave 4 U", so it appears that this crew might indeed have to dance with a snake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
The other three songs are: "Wall to Wall", "Tearin Up My Heart", and "Vogue."
There will be a group dance to MJ's "Smooth Criminal."
gosh, lets hope that it'll just be a giant garden hose.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
I'd love to see those DWTS dances. I'll check them out in the morning after I recovered...Just watched 2 hours of America's Got Talent. My eyes are like :eek2:. There's a couple I was so looking forward to see, their dance was spectacular, sensational and epic. But they did a totally different thing tonight, it was such a letdown. My eyes are hurting.
DWTS came a long way since I saw it the first time. I did watch it again and noticed it's gotten much better. But it doesn't have a hook on me and I now know why.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
They danced well, they're in sync and the choreo is not all that boring. One is not a trained dancer so they're not doing eye-popping lifts like in SYTYCD, so I cut them some slack. But even if I don't expect lifts or anything too technical, something is missing, and that's feeling! Ironically I keep hearing the lyrics, "feel it!" but I'm not feeling it, because they are not feeling it.
They don't look emotionally connected to each other. And there is no passion in the dancing.
I have to compare this to the Neil/Sabra paso doble in SYTYCD, because that's the one I remember best. There is passion and personality. Neil and Sabra are tuned into each other. It's the way Neil looks at Sabra....and she's so beautiful in her laced-up costume. Neil stays in character even after the music ends. It's got both passion and drama. That's not just dancing, that's a performance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq4gI0rP__A
Drew Lachey and Cheryl Burke - tango
... this is one ok too, they danced well, same thoughts as above
Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas - foxtrot
... nice :)
Kristi Yamaguchi and Mark Ballas - cha cha & mambo
... they have chemistry; enjoyed both of dances. Mark is awesome and Kristi delivers; she's very flexed and that's the unfair advantage because of her background. I'm surprised she didn't do a full split
Emmitt Smith and Cheryl Burke - rumba
... this one looks a bit amateurish, his moves are not big enough, there's not much hip action but he has the stature to carry it through
Stacy Keibler and Tony Dovolani - samba
... this one sizzles! :)
Lance Bass and Lacey Schwimmer - mambo
... Love! very professional, finally a dance that reminds me of SYTYCD :)
She's Benji's sister?
Apolo Anton Ohno and Julianne Hough - samba
... Love! These 2 really connect, great dance. I happen to like Apolo a lot ;)
Lifts are not allowed on DWTS. Couples will get penalized for doing lifts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
To be honest, I never really liked this dance. Neil's posture was weak; he was too hunched over. He was too light on his feet; he was supposed to dance into the floor. He didn't seem that convincing as a matador, either. The paso doble is the man's dance, and I didn't think that Neil commanded that dance. The donut drop at the end was awkward; Neil had to shake Sabra down. This wasn't the best paso doble on SYTYCD; for me, that title goes to Heidi and Travis in S2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
I thought that Drew embodied the attitude of the matador quite well. During the entire dance, he is a convincing leading man. I have to disagree with you about the passion because I thought that they had so much chemistry, and that they complemented each other very well in the dance. I loved those zombie-esque moves during the bridge section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
Perhaps you weren't feeling it as much because of the song? Neil and Sabra's paso was danced to traditional paso music, while this paso was danced to MJ's "Thriller." I never thought that MJ and ballroom dancing go together, but I completely changed my mind when I saw this dance.
Drew is able to lead Cheryl throughout the entire dance, and I could definitely see the passion within the dance. A tango is supposed to illustrate a love-hate relationship, and I thought that Drew and Cheryl illustrated this amazingly. This was much better than Neil and Lauren's tango.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
Perhaps I'm biased because Drew and Cheryl are my favourite couple on any season of DWTS.
I agree. This dance was even more impressive, given that this was their first dance. Kristi exudes grace and elegance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
I agree that Kristi delivers, and I thought that she was very fun and flirty in these dances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
I thought that this was such a sensual and classy rumba, and while I agree that Emmitt's hip action could have been better, this was quite impressive for someone who has had no previous dance experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
Glad you liked this one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
Yes, she's Benji's sister. Glad you liked this one, too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
I knew you would like this one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
You have a point, Neil looks boyish and may not be that convincing there. Same when he danced as the father in Mia's piece, I didn't quite get the father/daughter scenerio. But I loved all of his dances, what can I say...fangirl talking here :pQuote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
^ I bet you would have been an Apolo fangirl, as well ;)
^ haha, rooting for him the whole way during the Winter Olympics, but no, only admitting to being a Neil fangirl :p
Did you see any of last night's S6 audition? 2 or 3 girls are awesome. If they make it into the top 20, it'll be a heck of a show.
^ Which girls? I saw that there were three contemporary girls (Paula, Alexie, Pauline) who previously auditioned for S5, and I know that Pauline is cross-trained in hip hop. I hope that all three of them make it.
There was this blonde contemporary girl that Nigel loved, and this salsa girl that the judges loved. I didn't like either of them.
I really liked Ryan's audition, but I think that he got cut during the Vegas rounds :(
SYTYCD overload! After the Canadian results show ended, the American auditions began.
^ Let's see, I like the blonde girl who you don't like; and I don't like Ryan who you like. We never agree :D
My problem will be NCIS which will start at the same time in 2 weeks. I'll have to switch over and miss the rest of the auditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
The blonde girl made it to the Top 40 (or 38, or whatever), but Ryan got cut :bawling:Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
Nigel seems to have a thing for blonde girls.
awww don't be sad...there'll be another Ryan :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
^ I follow a couple of spoiler sites, and I was shocked to find out that Ryan got cut. Nigel was really laying it on thick during S5: "Ryan Kasprzak! Season 6! Evan's brother! Make sure to tune in!" And then I find out that Nigel cut him.
Do you want me to tell you which other dancers made it into the Top 40 or 38?
no thanks, that's ok. I don't know their names so even if you tell me, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. I have very short term memory. I see a dance, love it to death, then forgets when the next dance comes on. I usually don't have a favorite until it's down to just 8 or 10 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
The blonde girl is not the best, so I'm not upset. There's this girl that dances like a feather, then another one who just dances with her heart and soul, it was beautiful.
^ I'll just give you a general spoiler, then. The Top 40 or 38 dancers are mostly contemporary dancers, with very few hip hop and ballroom dancers. Shocking, I know.
^ General spoiler is good, I need a regular update!
Could it be that contemporary dancers are the most versatile?Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
Here's another update: the Top 20 has yet to be chosen; the Top 20 dancers will probably be chosen in mid-October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
I don't think that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haunted
S5 Jeanine is a contemporary dancer, and she did well in hip hop. However, her Latin wasn't good.
S5 Caitlin is a contemporary dancer, but her Latin and hip hop weren't good.
S5 Melissa is a ballet/contemporary dancer, but her Latin wasn't good, and she didn't even do hip hop.
S2 Travis is a contemporary dancer, and he did well in hip hop. However, his Latin and ballroom weren't good.
S5 Brandon is a contemporary dancer, and he did well in hip hop. As much as I like him, I thought that he was very stiff in his cha cha.
S4 Will is a contemporary dancer, and he did well in hip hop. However, his Latin and ballroom weren't good.
S5 Ade is a contemporary dancer, but his Latin wasn't very good.
S3 Neil is a contemporary dancer, but his Latin and ballroom weren't very good.
By casting so many contemporary dancers, you will get good contemporary/jazz/lyrical routines, but you will get subpar Latin, ballroom, and hip hop. Shane Sparks even said that contemporary dancers on SYTYCD will never have the attitude and swagger to pull off a good hip hop routine.
SYTYCD clearly has a contemporary bias, and it is evident by the judges constantly naming Travis, Danny, Will, and Kayla as the best dancers ever on SYTYCD. All four of them are contemporary dancers. To say that they are the best dancers overall is a bit of a stretch; they all struggled with Latin and ballroom.
How many good Latin and ballroom routines have we seen on this show? Only two: Benji and Heidi's mambo, and Lacey and Pasha's waltz; all four of these dancers are Latin/ballroom. How many good hip hop routines have we seen? Only a handful: "Party People", "Forever", and a few more; all of these dances include at least one hip hop dancer. If contemporary dancers really were the most versatile, there would be more good Latin, ballroom, and hip hop routines, because each season is disproportionately filled with contemporary dancers.
It's annoying, but there's nothing the fans can do about it. I think of SYTYCD as the contemporary show, DWTS as the Latin/ballroom show, and ABDC as the hip hop show :)
That's exactly how I see it. I'm not into ballroom dancing so I don't watch DWTS. I love theatrical dance and SYTYCD has a very good mix, and they are much more experimental and provocative in both moves and themes.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
What I was trying to say is, it seems easier for a contemporary dancer than a ballroom dancer to pull off a hip hop routine; and it'd be a bit awkward for a hip hop dancer to do a waltz. I may be wrong but in my mind a contemporary dancer is more adapt at crossing genre.
^ I think that many choreographers "water down" their choreography for contemporary dancers. There have been so many barefoot waltzes and Broadways. Hard-hitting hip hop is being slowly replaced by lyrical hip hop. These choreographers are playing to the strengths of contemporary dancers.
Right, sometimes I thought they were doing jazz. Contemporary is my favorite so I'm not complaining :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
Neil has joined the cast of a new musical production: Link
fangirl moment: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :banana:
Ahem, I'm back. I know Altar Boyz but what's 9 to 5?
^ Neil left Altar Boyz for 9 to 5: Link
Are you going to get tickets to see his show?
^ Long shot. I live too far away :(
...but there's always YouTube
Neil was featured in the February 2009 (I know, this was a while ago) edition of Time Out New York as an eligible bachelor.
Quote:
Neil H.
21; actor; Upper West Side
Neil says: "I am a dancer who has been living in New York City for just over two years. I’m a pretty active guy looking for a girl who wants to have fun. I love riding my bike around Central Park or a night in watching movies. My ideal girl would be beautiful, outgoing and confident, and wouldn’t mind me holding the remote."
My style: "Funny, creative, original, loving, dancing, pop culture, shy at first."
My outlook: "Excited for the future; work hard, play hard"
"shy at first"?? oh I forgot he IS an altar boy ;)
^ Yeah, I don't really buy the "shy at first" thing, either.
In the Latin jazz with Lacey, he was dancing shirtless, and his pants were falling down ;)
(Why do I remember that?)
I remember that well. The screaming girls almost brought the house down ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
No more Neil news :(
I do have some DWTS news, though. Melissa Rycroft's waltz has been nominated for an Emmy for Breakthrough Performance. I love it when the audience boos that evil Jason Mesnick at the beginning of the clip.
:bawling:Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
That's a nice dance, it flows like a moon river ;)
SYTYCD choreographer Tyce Diorio won the Emmy for Best Choreography. It was for the "Silence" routine danced by Jessica and Will in S4. Haha, Mia's head will explode.
:lol: yea, if she got nominations too but lost to this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by AmericanEagle
^ Yup, Mia's "Mercy" routine lost.
Mia will also have to get used to Jessica being part of an Emmy-winning routine. Mia was brutally mean to Jessica in S4, telling her that she was a horrible dancer.
^ She's one of the toughest judges to please but hope she didn't actually say that? That's not productive.
^ Jessica and Will finish performing their quickstep. Mia is a guest judge. She says to Will that he looks tired of carrying Jessica, and that he needs a new partner. Jessica looks crestfallen. Cat asks Will to comment. Will gets flustered, but manages to say a few words in support of Jessica.
I think that Mia's comment was totally uncalled for, and totally unprofessional.