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10-18-2005, 03:17 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

You missed my joke by a mile, mon ami. The Regis I was refering to is Regis Philburn on the TV Show "Who Wants to Be a Millionare?" and he always asks "Is that your final answer?" Hee-Hee!http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/552.gif
OK now to your clue. What we have is a living thing that always flies solo, n'est c'est pas?

Oh lol, didn't get that... thought you were talking about some regis from the ancient past or something. Anyhow:

What we have is a living thing that always flies solo, n'est c'est pas?

Actually to be honest... the living thing that we're talking about actually flies in groups. So why would it say "flies alone"? that's for me to know and for you to find out, Next! :smash:

(The reason I'm not saying the answer is because I like seeing people try to figure it out, it definetely felt good when I solved the "Tooth Riddle" my cousin gave me)

I want to see someone answer the questions:

1. What is the "group of flight"?

2. Other than (insert answer to number 1 here) what else is there?

3. What does this mean you should think about for the second part? ("away it flies alone")

4. What does it mean by "flies alone"?

5. What does this tell you about the living thing?

What's the answer?

(Notice how question number 2 is dependent on #1 and #3 on #2 and number #4 on #3 and #5 on #4. Meaning if you screw up number 1 you screw up everything, so knowing what the "group of flight" is is really necessary here)
10-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scheherazade

one minute before... ie, 59 mins.

Three people check into a hotel. They pay £30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager suddenly remembers that the room rate is £25 and gives £5 to the bellboy to return to the people. On the way to the room the bellboy reasons that £5 would be difficult to share among three people so he pockets £2 and gives £1 to each person. Now each person paid £10 and got back £1. So they paid £9 each, totalling £27. The bellboy has £2, totalling £29. Where is the missing £1?

I just realized this is incorrect. Since the bellboy has 2F(can't do that sign thing) you don't add it to 27F you subtract from it(you don't count those 2 since they were never given to the manager). This gives you 25, which is what the manager has.
10-18-2005, 07:05 PM
Pendragon

Absolutely my last try, or I surrender!http://www.websmileys.com/sm/mad/boese094.gif "group of flight"--pattren "not part of"--wren
a wren is a bird that usually flies in groups-- when startled they scatter-- "away it flies"-- since they go in different directions-- "alone". I might not have the correct answer but it will certainly fit the rules stated by the riddle!http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/alieneyesa.gif
10-18-2005, 07:52 PM
Anon22

Nope... sorry... not really the answer...
10-18-2005, 08:16 PM
Darlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightshade

give up !NEVER
*spies darlin approaching with a slightly annoyed look
OkOk I give up!
whats the answer!! Oh but make it invisible so I can still think aboutt it ;)

:) Never annoyed, Night just hoping everyone would surrender like me! But I'm actually glad to see Digital hasn't given the answer yet. It's rather fun reading everyone's guesses but for the life of me I'm totally lost. Hurry up and guess someone!
10-18-2005, 08:18 PM
Pendragon

Oh, Well. Sorry guys, but I have sat on this one for weeks. It is truly a literary puzzle, one of many that I write for http://www.spaceports.com/~deshadow/tmsm/index.html . There is only one correct answer.

The Gambler’s Legacy by Jonathan Blade

The short, thin, grey-haired lawyer sat behind a massive desk in the book-lined library, glaring over his owlish glasses at his visitors. When he spoke, however, his voice was thunder unleashed.
“This is an outrage, Commissioner Weston! My client’s will is straightforward. There is absolutely no need for police evolvement! And certainly no excuse for an amateur!” He jabbed an angry finger at Weston’s companion, Lamont Cranston, little knowing that Cranston was really that terror of the underworld known as The Shadow!
“Young Mr. Graves, there,” He indicated a pale young man seated in a corner. “Is the only one who needs to be here at all, as he is the sole heir.”
Weston’s voice was cold. “Bilgslby, you’ve given us no proof that your client even HAD a fortune to leave anyone. Considering that Otis Wellingsforth was a confirmed gambler, he—“
Bilgslby cut him off sharply. “He was indeed.” He replied coldly. “I have here sworn statements from the three biggest gambling joints in the city. Two say Wellingsforth was in the clear, owing nothing. The other says he has $1000 in credit. All swear that was Wellingsforth’s way—take half his winnings and leave half for a stake next time."
“That is police evidence, Bilgslby!” Weston exploded.
“Client confidentiality!” the lawyer sneered. “I know my client had a large fortune. He left every cent to Harlan Graves, his nephew. But I can only show Mr. Graves this paper. He must then solve the puzzle for himself. Even I don’t know what it means.”
He held up a paper. On it were two dice. Each face showed one dot.
“That’s all?” gulped Harlan Graves. “I knew reading all these books would drive the old man batty! This is absurd!”
Cranston had turned and was examining the packed bookshelves. “Your Uncle seems to have been quite a bibliophile. Many of these books are of great value.”
“It was Uncle Otis’ other vice.” Graves sighed. “Shooting craps and collecting books! What a mess!”
“Did you ever shoot craps, Commissioner?” asked Cranston.
Weston turned red. “I—uh—er—well, yeah. So what?”
Cranston tapped the paper. “What would happen to the player who rolled this play? Should they be pleased?”
Weston laughed. “Hardly. Snake-eyes always looses.”
Cranston smiled. “Right. Now I need to find a book. Wellingsforth has it, I am certain. And once I find it, the puzzle is solved.”

WHAT BOOK DOES CRANSTON NEED TO FIND?

If you look, you may find the book! The Shadow Knows! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
10-18-2005, 09:29 PM
Anon22

Ok... let me change the riddle a little... won't really help that much though(then again it actually might, makes one thing obvious). I'm changing it because I feel it sounds better this way:

In its group it flies alone, not being in the group of flight. What is it?

another reason I changed it this way is because I can do the questions easier

the questions of the riddle:

1) What do you think it means when it says "group of flight"?

2) What other groups are there?

3) What types of groups are we talking about?

4) What would be the reason for it to fly alone in its group?

5) What can you deduct the answer is from this?

hope that makes it easier or... :crash:
10-19-2005, 09:14 AM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalCrash

Ok... let me change the riddle a little... won't really help that much though(then again it actually might, makes one thing obvious). I'm changing it because I feel it sounds better this way:

In its group it flies alone, not being in the group of flight. What is it?

another reason I changed it this way is because I can do the questions easier

the questions of the riddle:

1) What do you think it means when it says "group of flight"?

2) What other groups are there?

3) What types of groups are we talking about?

4) What would be the reason for it to fly alone in its group?

5) What can you deduct the answer is from this?

hope that makes it easier or... :crash:

There's nothing wrong with your riddle D-man. I'm kicking myself, bucause I usually think logically and should have figured this out by now. A bat. A bat would need to fly alone because it locates its meals by echolocation. But they come out of the caves in huge, sky darkening flocks? Swarms? Anyway, my answer is a bat. :eek:
10-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Anon22

Alright, here is the answer to the riddle:

1) What is the "Group of Flight"?
Many people thought the "Group of Flight" was talking about the group of everything that can fly (airplanes, birds, insects, etc.) but it was really just a description of a group. The "Group of Flight" is simply, The Birds. If it's not from the "Group of Flight" that means it's not from the Bird Group, or IOW it's not a bird

2) What other groups are there?
If we're talking about birds as a group, then other groups would be:
Mammals, Insects, Fish, Crustaceans, Mollusks, etc.

3) What types of groups are we talking about?
That's simple... Animal Groups.

4) What would be the reason for it to "fly alone" in its group?
Since we're talking about Animal groups not actual groups(where they gather together) the reason would obviously be that in its group it's the only one capable of flying, making it "fly alone" but you see it's not actually flying alone.

5) What can you deduct the answer is from this?
Well... think of a group that contains only one animal capable of flying(out of the animal groups). If you guessed Mammals you are right. The only ones that contain flying animals are: The Mammals, The Insects, and The Birds. Insects and Birds wouldn't count because they contain more than one animal capable of flying(plus the answer's not a bird). The mammals on the other hand do. So congrats Pendragon... you got it right! ^_^ The answer is the bat... even though... you pretty much guessed the answer... either way though congrats Pendragon! ^_^ You may all rest now... the answer's out in the open.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

I'm kicking myself, bucause I usually think logically and should have figured this out by now. A bat.

I find this pretty ironic... lol
10-19-2005, 03:07 PM
Nightshade

yeah now we have Perns to deal with!!
Ok pen

so is the book called snake eyes?
how to annoy the newphew you leave your inheritence to?? oh wait that was Brewsters million ;)
Loser
oh how to get over a gambling habit
:D
10-19-2005, 04:06 PM
Anon22

I've no idea... lol, checkbook, rulebook, creditcardbook. I've never played Craps so that probably doesn't help.
10-19-2005, 04:12 PM
Pendragon

It's a very famous book.

And D-Man, like Holmes, I seldom guess, it's a shocking habit! :lol: My logic just didn't follow the same steps, and there I'm like Watson "It makes sense once it has been explained..." Duh, where was my brain?" :rolleyes:
10-19-2005, 04:21 PM
Anon22

Well... I have yet to find a person who can figure out the riddle without my help. I'm going to tell my friends my riddle(I haven't done so yet)... and by the time I'm 30 I'll let them give up... :nod:
10-19-2005, 08:31 PM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalCrash

Well... I have yet to find a person who can figure out the riddle without my help. I'm going to tell my friends my riddle(I haven't done so yet)... and by the time I'm 30 I'll let them give up... :nod:

I know how you feel, pal. No one has ever figured my little mystery out before either, including my editor and my friend who writes mystery novels. A good hint is that you are all making this much harder than it is. :nod:
10-19-2005, 09:44 PM
Anon22

Wellingsforth's Book? lol
10-20-2005, 05:47 AM
Kaltrina

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

WHAT BOOK DOES CRANSTON NEED TO FIND?
If you look, you may find the book! The Shadow Knows! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA![/COLOR][/FONT]

maybe he needs to find a book that explains the meaning of Snake eyes or that explains the rules of the game craps.... ok just trying....I'm probably far from the right answer but you can't say I didn't try..hahahahah... :lol:
10-20-2005, 08:53 AM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaltrina

maybe he needs to find a book that explains the meaning of Snake eyes or that explains the rules of the game craps.... ok just trying....I'm probably far from the right answer but you can't say I didn't try..hahahahah... :lol:

You are all making this too hard. The book has actually been NAMED. It is very famous, often required reading. "Snake-eyes" simply refers to a toss in craps that ends with both dice showing one dot, or eye. The clues have nothing to do with the rules of craps. Read carefully... :nod:
10-20-2005, 09:11 AM
Nightshade

th shadow knows??
10-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Pendragon

That was the signature sign-off from the Old Time Radio Series. It goes like this: "The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. Crime does NOT pay. The Shadow Knows. HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!" Check out the 1994 movie starring Alec Baldwin as The Shadow. Very good. No, the book has been named, but not directly. D-man, I see how you must have felt!

1. The answer MUST be on the paper shown to the group

2. What does it show?

3. To a craps player what does it mean?

4. Put the two together.

(I hate giving away so much of my secret.....http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/1346.gif
10-20-2005, 12:37 PM
Scheherazade

Snake Eyes?

The Gambler?
10-20-2005, 02:17 PM
Nightshade

sakeeyes always loses?
Craps loses
2 die
:D
or is it 0ne die 2 dice??
10-20-2005, 03:14 PM
Basil

Paradise Lost, or pair o' dice: lost!
10-20-2005, 03:27 PM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil

Paradise Lost, or pair o' dice: lost!

Quite correct, mon ami!
I knew I gave away too much with that last set of clues...http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/974.gif But that is the correct answer. when Cranston finds that book, it will contain the information needed to secure the young man's fortune. I write a lot of things even in so short a mystery to throw dust into the readers eyes. Magicans call it "misdirection". The answer was right there all along. If you liked my little mystery, I have quite a few more... :nod: :lol: :D :)
10-20-2005, 03:29 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

That was the signature sign-off from the Old Time Radio Series. It goes like this: "The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. Crime does NOT pay. The Shadow Knows. HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!" Check out the 1994 movie starring Alec Baldwin as The Shadow. Very good. No, the book has been named, but not directly. D-man, I see how you must have felt!Lol, yeah

1. The answer MUST be on the paper shown to the group

2. What does it show?
Two Dice, each with 1 dot
3. To a craps player what does it mean?
The term, Snake-eyes. What it really means, They have lost
4. Put the two together.
put what 2 together? o.o the fact that they have lost and play craps? Losing at Craps? lol... I don't know... even though... I did a search for the book at BarnesandNobles.com. I started with what I thought the title had... "Snake-eyes" and look at this:
http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/140...0/10163267.jpg

The two dice & Snake eyes... o.o seems pretty odd. Even though you said it wasn't "Snake-Eyes" so here's my next guess. A book that also has snake-eyes in the title, and seems pretty close:

http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/140...00/9059050.jpg

The search for Snake-Eyes... never heard of it though so don't know. (Another thing I didn't realize was the snake had 2 dice for eyeballs with 1 dot)
(I hate giving away so much of my secret.....http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/1346.gif

Well that's my answer Sammy Keyes and the Search for Snake-Eyes, Also realized that this is a search... a search for a guy who rolls "Snake-eyes"(I assume)...
10-20-2005, 03:32 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

Quite correct, mon ami!
I knew I gave away too much with that last set of clues...http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/974.gif But that is the correct answer. when Cranston finds that book, it will contain the information needed to secure the young man's fortune. I write a lot of things even in so short a mystery to throw dust into the readers eyes. Magicans call it "misdirection". The answer was right there all along. If you liked my little mystery, I have quite a few more... :nod: :lol: :D :)

Ah... ignore my last post then... I wish I knew how to delete it... bleh...(I will edit it though so the pictures don't get annoying). Nice Mystery btw, I probably would've been the last one to get it right though as I don't know many books... lol... didn't even know about that book either.

Here's 3 easy ones:

1)
Descending from the skies
Rising from the ground
Looking from the sky
Living underground
this is what it's all about.
What is it?

2) A kid lives inside a building with no flight of stairs
The kid goes inside the only elevator(Strange I know)
Looks at the buttons strangely and starts to ponder about something
either way he goes to the first floor
He goes outside buys some groceries
and when he returns he gets inside the elevator and presses button #14
The elevator goes up 1 floor, stops and opens
someone gets in, he presses to go 3 floors more
2 floors more someone enters and presses the button to go 5 floors more
1 floor more the first guy gets out and 2 come in to go 2 floors more
2 floors more the Two guys leaves and no one comes in
1 floor more a woman comes in and chooses to go 5 floors more
1 floor more the second guy leaves and another comes and presses button #15
The elevator goes 3 floors down instead opens and a guy enters to go 3 floors down
3 floors down the elevator opens the guy leaves another enters with a daughter and wants to go 7 floors more
2 floors more a guy with a puppet enters to go 6 floors more
1 floor more a guy with an iPod enters to go 6 floors more also
1 floor more a girl enters to go 1 more floor than the kid
3 floors more the guy with the daughter leaves and no one comes in
1 floor more the guy with the puppet leaves
1 floor more the guy with the iPod leaves
1 floor more the woman leaves and the kid realizes they both leave at the same floor
Then the kid asks the woman something about their floor
The woman responds and the kid reaches his destination on the floor
At what floor do they leave off at? At what floor does the remaining guy and girl leave off? What did the kid ponder/ask?

3)When I leave my home, I float
I can be Cocoa
I can be Fruit
I can be Corn
At least that's what my name can say
What am I?

Answer:

Code:

cereal
10-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Nightshade

well number 3 is flake or cereal?
10-20-2005, 04:47 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightshade

well number 3 is flake or cereal?

Wow, immediately o.o
10-21-2005, 05:13 AM
Nightshade

Is number 1 a type of ground nesting owl??
10-21-2005, 06:46 AM
Kaltrina

is number 2 the 18th floor I just can't think what the guy asks, probably if they are in the 18th floor or maybe he asks her if she is the new neighbour...
10-21-2005, 06:58 AM
el01ks

Think number 1 is water
10-21-2005, 07:01 AM
Pendragon

Sorry to interrupt D-Man, I'll try to figure out your puzzles in a moment. My latest mystery is up at http://www.spaceports.com/~deshadow/tmsm/ today and will be there for a week. I return all of you to D-Man's ingenious riddles. ;)
10-21-2005, 07:09 AM
Kaltrina

Pendragon I am confused is that suppose to be our next mystery because there is a solution in the end... :confused:
10-21-2005, 08:34 AM
Pendragon

No,no. We're still on the D-Man's riddles! That is where I write my mysteries for, a site dedicated to pulp fiction hero The Shadow. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you! :blush: All of our stories on the site give the solution, the people who are used to the site know it's there, but try to solve before looking... :) I think... :p
10-21-2005, 09:50 AM
Kaltrina

oh ok...I guess I misunderstood... I already checked the site and it seems rather interesting.... ;) :D
10-21-2005, 03:04 PM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalCrash

2) A kid lives inside a building with no flight of stairs
The kid goes inside the only elevator(Strange I know)
Looks at the buttons strangely and starts to ponder about something
either way he goes to the first floor
He goes outside buys some groceries
and when he returns he gets inside the elevator and presses button #14
The elevator goes up 1 floor, stops and opens
someone gets in, he presses to go 3 floors more
2 floors more someone enters and presses the button to go 5 floors more
1 floor more the first guy gets out and 2 come in to go 2 floors more
2 floors more the Two guys leaves and no one comes in
1 floor more a woman comes in and chooses to go 5 floors more
1 floor more the second guy leaves and another comes to go 5 floors more
The elevator goes 3 floors down instead opens and a guy enters to go 3 floors down
3 floors down the elevator opens the guy leaves another enters with a daughter and wants to go 7 floors more
2 floors more a guy with a puppet enters to go 6 floors more
1 floor more a guy with an iPod enters to go 6 floors more also
1 floor more a girl enters to go 1 more floor than the kid
3 floors more the guy with the daughter leaves and no one comes in
1 floor more the guy with the puppet leaves
1 floor more the guy with the iPod leaves
1 floor more the woman leaves and the kid realizes they both leave at the same floor
Then the kid asks the woman something about their floor
At what floor do they leave off at? At what floor does the remaining guy and girl leave off? What did the kid ponder/ask?

Well, they get off at the 14th floor, but the kid is wondering why, since it is actually the 13th. The remaining guy and girl shoul get off at the 9th, :lol: if I didn't completely loose track. Whew! What say, D-Man?http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/533.gif
10-21-2005, 03:23 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

Well, they get off at the 14th floor, but the kid is wondering why, since it is actually the 13th.
Alright, Not exactly(close but not exactly), See... if you read the beginning of the riddle you'll realize that the kid ponders about this as soon as he gets on the elevator the first time and looks at the buttons. So he was already thinking about it before he got off. Also the kid actually managed to get to his destination without using the elevator(I'll add that to the riddle)... this will confuse you guys more so I'll simply say that he lives in the 13th floor
The remaining guy and girl shoul get off at the 9th, :lol: if I didn't completely loose track. Whew! What say, D-Man?
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/533.gif
Nope... lol, they do not get off at the 9th floor, yeah it is kind of hard to keep track of it.

I feel like making this riddle harder by adding a question, but nah... don't feel like it, it'd make it hard to keep track off(Question would be: At what floor did each character get off?) of course if you want to go right on ahead
10-21-2005, 05:07 PM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalCrash

I feel like making this riddle harder by adding a question, but nah... don't feel like it, it'd make it hard to keep track off(Question would be: At what floor did each character get off?) of course if you want to go right on ahead

You want to make it harder? :eek2: :bawling: :lol: It confuses the daylight out of me now!

Wait. Wait. Looking at the buttons. He asked why the button for their floor said 14 when they lived on the 13th floor! And the man and girl get off on the 17th, I believe.

Might the third riddle refer to water? :brickwall
10-21-2005, 11:07 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

You want to make it harder? :eek2: :bawling: :lol: It confuses the daylight out of me now!

Wait. Wait. Looking at the buttons. He asked why the button for their floor said 14 when they lived on the 13th floor!

Yeah, even though its more like why it skipped #13... I remember one time forget one hearing something about how some elevators didn't have the #13th because it was the "evil number" I think my dad told me that... lol... can't remember... maybe I should've verified it first, lol

And the man and girl get off on the 17th, I believe.

still incorrect
Might the third riddle refer to water?
the third riddle's already been answered... it was cereal, I'm sure your referring to the first. In that case no... it isn't water
:brickwall

lol, they're just riddles... nothing to get frustrated about. With a calm mind they're easier to solve.
10-22-2005, 07:59 AM
Pendragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalCrash

lol, they're just riddles... nothing to get frustrated about. With a calm mind they're easier to solve.

I know...I know...BTW, you don't say where you are located, but buildings not having a 13th floor is pretty common knowledge in the USA, at least to mystery readers it should be...I loose track all the time on which floor because I keep forgetting if the elevator moved up or down. When you say "to go 3 more floors" after saying it went down, I go down, which landed me once on the first floor, only I was supposed to go 3 more floors. At that point, I gave up, went back to a point I knew (where the woman and boy get off 14th but really 13th) and tried backtracking. Thought certain I had it this time 17th really 16th but.....OOOOOOOKKKKKK.... :smash:
10-22-2005, 12:46 PM
Anon22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

I know...I know...BTW, you don't say where you are located, but buildings not having a 13th floor is pretty common knowledge in the USA, at least to mystery readers it should be...I loose track all the time on which floor because I keep forgetting if the elevator moved up or down. When you say "to go 3 more floors" after saying it went down, I go down, which landed me once on the first floor, only I was supposed to go 3 more floors. At that point, I gave up, went back to a point I knew (where the woman and boy get off 14th but really 13th) and tried backtracking. Thought certain I had it this time 17th really 16th but.....OOOOOOOKKKKKK.... :smash:

It's not that hard to keep track off... There is unnecessary info you know. (Unless your going for the "hard" question I made a couple of posts ago)

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