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:lol: i know! i feel there are never enough copies, and [I]every[I]one wants a copy!
well, about edward cullen and people who are so so totally crushed on him...i feel sorry for them!edward is only alive in books...and we're only alive in the real world. but come on! why do people have crushes on fictionary firgures? can someone answer that?
I don't know why that happens, but for some people (me included) reading a good book, is like living another life, being in a completely different place altogether. It has nothing to do with logic and the fact that of course we live in the real world. I had one hell of a crush on Gabriel Oak and still have I suppose. And there was John Thornton from North & South. :) I don't know why, but I love being kind of close to a fictional character and they never dissapoint me.
I guess it is like having Enid Blyton's children as your friends when you are young.
Have you really never ever had that experience ?
I enjoyed reading the first book of the series but i thought that was the best out of the three. I wonder what the fourth one would be like... =]
i understand exactly what you're talking about!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinivere
every time i read a book, i just don't want to put it down until i finish it, because if i put it down, it seems as if i'm exiting a world, and coming into my own world....maybe that's the reason i want a quiet environment while i read...it gives me a clear mind to imagine how that other world i'm reading about lives, how those other people i'm reading about lives their life.
Interesting. I never get involved like that in a book-- personally involved, that is. I'm a detached reader. I appreciate a good phrase, an intriguing idea, an involving plot... but I'm aways aware that I'm reading an artistic construct.
It's the same with movies. I'll sit there absolutely absorbed in a good film, but I'm always conscious of the camera angle, the lighting, and the way actors are interpreting a scene.
And I have can still have direct, intense emotional responses in this mode. I'll actually have tears in my eyes.
I love Twilight and Edward (:lol:) but you guys are right, Robert Pattison is attractive, he's just not, um, how can I put it? Edward-y.
finally! someone who agrees with me fully! thank you Bakiryu!
they should've waited until they found the right edward to film the movie!
the person they picked for Bella is perfect, but not so much Jacob...that is not jacob!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Methinks the movie is going to suck. I am almost afraid of going to see it :(
me too! i'm scared to even watch it...especially since the last time i watched a movie of one of my fav books...i had nightmares because of how they ruined the book!!!
Haven't read the series and don't intend to, but this Edward Cullen worshipping bull**** among teenagers needs to be put to an end..
It appears my assumptions are correct when at least two people who have read the book have told me, yes, Edward Cullen is just a "mysterious bad boy *******" for lack of a better way to put it.. Girls just fall for any old jerk, don't they? hah. :P
are you jealous?
just because we talk about him, does NOT mean we worship him! we just feel as if we know him, so that means we can put our opinion in as to who we think has and hasnot the part cut out to be Edward Cullen, and i say Robert Pattison does not!:rage:
I bought the fourth book today, this morning at midnight to be exact. I was one of those idiots. And let me tell you, it was not worth it. It's almost as if her writing style has gone down. By plot I would place them in order, from best to worst like this: 1, 3, 2, 4. By writing style: 1, 2, 3, 4.
Over all, I think that it had potential, but it's kind of gone down. The fourth gets better the farther you read but some of it is just...oh, man, I don't even know how to explain it. It's almost kind of sad. Anyways, I know that many will enjoy this book, but I am dragging through it. :( I was certainly hoping for better. I hope you all enjoy it and make your own opinions.
By the way, I think that Robert Pattinson is a good Edward, really, I do, oddly enough. However, I do not think that Kristen Stewart is a good Bella. I have my concerns more set to her than Robert. I don't know if many agree with me about this, but Bella seems much more...wholesome. But then again, I'll have to judge the movie based upon it's cinematic qualities, because I know, that it's very impossible for them to stick to the book exactly, so I'm over that. I also understand, and I hope more do, that every body has their own images of the Cullens and Bella and Edward and Jake, etc., and it would be impossible for any body to find the true Edward and Bella in our minds, so I look to that optimistically and hope for the best in the movie (even though I made the above comment about my worries for Kristen Stewart).
Er, no? I'm not jealous of an imaginary character. That's pretty ridiculous.
You, on the other hand, need to learn to stop using excessive exclamation points..
haha, Jazz. too funny.
was that a hesitation i see?....and if it's so rediculous, then why even bring it up!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJazzHands
*twitch* More abuse of exclamation, I see.. *twitch*
Yes, a hesitation you might call it, because I fail to comprehend how you actually believe a person would be jealous of someone who does not and will not (sorry hun for your little fantasies) exist? A book that is crafted with the sole intent of marketing in mind, catering towards susceptible women of all ages, looking for "true romance" in this world. Tough luck for them, Edward doesn't exist, and Hallelujah for it, because there are down-to-earth, honest, real men living today who could fulfill your wildest dreams. They won't suck your blood, either! (Unless, of course, you're into fetishism..)
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go read a book that isn't, how shall I put it.. entirely trashy. :)
*opens up Crime and Punishment*
*tear* Jazz your little schpiel just brought tears to my eyes.
Don't forget that she's mormon!!!!
(Writing about vampires ^.^)
haha.
Oh man, Jazz, the first book isn't bad. That one is actually my favorite and her best written. The first book alone could pass without a series to follow.
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Originally Posted by SirJazzHands
what's wrong with a little fantacism? every girl is entitled to theirs, just most would find it in a book, at least i don't find it on T.V. and lose a lot of brain cells!:lol:
and who said we were looking for a real,down-to-earth, honest man?:p
and for your information....I'm not one of those people who are obsessed with Edward:flare: . i just admire the author who writes a book that draws me in, and makes me doubt if anything is impossible to believe. like vampires, i know they don't exist, but the way Stephenie Meyers creates her vampires, it sounds so realistic.
and i'm not really looking for the "romance" from Edward, that i know he can't give me!
and you can be jealous of a fictional character. i've been jealous myself a few times from characters so carefully drawn, that they seem real.
to everyone else: Has anyone read The Host?:D
Beautifull, I have read The Host and I very much enjoyed it - moreso than the Twilight series, as a point of fact.
Edward is probably my least favorite character in the series - I found him to be overly controlling (and having been in that kind of bad relationship, I have no taste for it even in daydreams and book pages). I held out hope for Jacob. ;) Although Edward did become slightly more pallatable in Breaking Dawn - he finally started letting go a bit.
But getting back to The Host, I had heard a rumor that there would be another book or two in that world - I'm intrigued. It was very good as a stand alone, and part of me is concerned about there being more - I don't want it to turn into a "book crafted with the sole intent of marketing" to quote Sir Jazz. But on the other hand, wasn't every book on shelves today crafted with the intent for people everywhere to enjoy them? So really, how can you blame an author for crafting a story that millions of people want to read? Isn't that the point? :idea:
Well I could guess *SPOILER* Bella would get knocked up and I haven't even read it yet.
Ricechex,
what's this i hear about a book or two in that world?
so The Host might be book one in a series?
I must admit one thing, if it weren't for the fact that it's more than likely total fan service (aka probably going to be rushed and a bad idea), Midnight Sun is a cool idea. If any of you have ever read or heard of Orson Scott Card's Ender books, he did a similar thing with his books Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow. Same story told through two different perspectives.
I've heard about The Host and I'll also admit it seems a bit intriguing but I'm not sure if I actually want to take the chance in case it's bad.
I dipped into The Host but found it not worth reading, IMHO. It's your basic mind-whammy plot, aliens move in and take over, turning folks into pod-people. One brave soul fights back. Stephanie Meyer seems to use an awful lot of verbiage to produce yet one more take on this too-familiar idea.Quote:
I've heard about The Host and I'll also admit it seems a bit intriguing
She makes her vampires contemporary. There's a fine, but very important difference. They seem realistic to her target audience, because they appeal to her target audience.Quote:
i just admire the author who writes a book that draws me in, and makes me doubt if anything is impossible to believe. like vampires, i know they don't exist, but the way Stephenie Meyers creates her vampires, it sounds so realistic.
Something intrigues me about the idea of "doubting anything is impossible". This is an idea that I run across all the time in discussions of popular culture; it sounds so hopeful and youthful and optimistic that I hesitate to torpedo it. (But I will anyway <g>!) Should we in fact go about doubting that anything is impossible? Even things that fly in the face of logic, experience, and the wisdom of the ages? It sounds like something from a Nike ad. And like most salesmanship, disillusionment and disappointment lurk not far down the road.
Beautifull, don't quote me on it, but that is apparently the word that's going around. One of my friends at my local B&N mentioned it, but I haven't seen anything on her [Stephenie Meyer's] site. I want to say I may have seen something in perhaps Entertainment Weekly or some such publication, but I cannot promise it.
Sir Jazz, I must say that The Host is, in my own humble opinion, vastly better than the Twilight series. The writing was definately more adult in tone. I am not much for the Sci-Fi bit (I'm an Urban Fantasy girl at heart) but The Host was excellent. :thumbs_up Of course, that is my own opinion. I borrowed it from my local library - you might take that route before shelling out the $20+ for it.
Cheers!
I have, it's one of my favorite books. I tend to identify with Wanda :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautifull
I just got Breaking Dawn yesterday, it's so good, I'm almost finished but I don't want it to end.
man! you're so lucky! i've been dying to read Breaking Dawn...my friend is going to let me borrow it after she finishes, but one minute is too much for me to wait for it!:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakiryu
i like wanda, but i think i can identify with Melanie better.;)
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Originally Posted by Ricechex
i gotta say i agree with you about The Host being better thanthe Twilight series
okay, so i thought about this, but i want other people's thoughts on this first. jacob. is he good guy or bad guy. i know i get that he's a nice guy, but he gets in the way of edward and bella. so is he good? is he bad?
I love Twilight, and I am currently reading New Moon!! Awesome!!!
i assure you it is not bad....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJazzHands
I haven't read The Host yet, after reading the Twilight series, I'm kind of scared to, to be honest. She should have left it at the first book. Sigh. Oh well. I might look into it, but there is no way I'm going to buy it.
Equality...i will tell you, The Host is nothing like the Twilight series, it's a whole 'nother book, comp;letely different. when i first checked it out, i didn't really care for it, but something made me pick up the book at the book store, and buy it. now i'm glad that i bought it...because now i can read it as many times as i want....justas soon as i get it back from who's borrowing it!:)
so is there anyone who would like to give their opinion of Jacob?:(
Jacob is a sweetheart. He goes about everything dead wrong, but he's too impulsive to help it. Breaking Dawn from his point of view is the funniest thing EVER. I love the chapter titles!!
But forget Jacob and Edward... I will take Seth and Jasper, any day.
I enjoyed Twilight but Meyer doesn't exactly have a way with words:
'I reassembled my expression'
That line's so bad, it's almost laughable. It's like a 12 year old with a thesaurus.
Twilight is definitely the best out of the four. I enjoyed it so much that I am a bit worried about going and seeing it in the cinema. I only started reading because it is all the craze with my students and have been borrowing the books off them.
I absolutely love the storylines but sometimes Stephanie Meyer's writing annoys me - especially the over the top descriptions in places - ie will take about 300 pages to ramble on about goings ons and then when it comes to the final battle scene etc - it rushes by and finishes so quickly.
and I agree - I think I like Seth and Jasper better than Edward and Jacob - but definitely like Jacob over Edward - at least he is human-ish
Indeed- I enjoy the story, it's just that her writing is so awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgsn
has anyone read Breaking Dawn yet?
Your opinions?
1- I wouldn't really call it magnificent. Okay would be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arania
2- It didn't have a plot line until page 400!
3- The writing is easy but pretentious: 'The book held no interest for me'
4- I was waiting for something to happen, some big romantic event, but no, not really. Let down.
5- Currently reading New Moon and the writing is even more awful.It destroys your brain a little bit.
I haven't read breaking dawn yet butsomebody already told me the ending :( now its ruined ohwell. Im reading eclipse now anyways.
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Originally Posted by Beautifull
Has anyone else read the leaked illegal draft of Midnight Sun yet? :blush:
Yes i've read the leaked copy - via Meyer's website.
You know, that entire series is good..fluff. I really hate it when i hear people harp on about its wonderful literary content because to me, it's non existant.
She has a wonderful imagination though.
Good or bad? what are you even talking about?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautifull