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We aim to please.
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Great news!
We aim to please.
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Alright guys... I'm a relatively new reader (just beginning to work on the classics) and I was wondering, what purpose does Benjamin the donkey serve in the story? I've not yet finished, so his purpose might not have been revealed yet, but I was still wondering. Any theories?
He symbolises the older sector of Russian society who have seen it all and watch the revolution, plodding away, never expecting anything but what happens.
I see. Thanks for your input, and for clearing things up for me. I look forward to posting in the future.
Why is Heyyy! named as an author of this thread? This is some mistake, I am sure it wasn't like that before. Logos, you can't change past here ! :lol:
Or is this some Animal Farm joke?
No baz, no Orwellian joke :lol: ......
:( I made a bad mistake. Heyyy!'s topic was created before this one; someone 'bumped' it with a homework question and I, being your favourite automaton robot mod, went and merged them without checking dates first. Humble apologies to The Atheist have been duly sent.
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<EOT> end of transmission
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Nah, it's no problem to me. As long as it works and it sure seems to!
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Hey,
I have to write an essay on characters in Animal Farm who are symbols of ambition and betrayal.
I've chosen Snowball as a symbol of benevolent ambition, Napoleon as a symbol of malevolent ambition (and of betrayal), Squealer as a symbol of self-centred ambition (as he uses Napoleon to get himself into power), and Boxer as a symbol of patriotic/devoted ambition.
I'm able to write about their ambitions (Snowball's ambition to look after the farm, Napoleon's ambition to gain power, Squealer's similar ambition to be in power, and Boxer's ambition to devote himself to the cause), etc but I'm a little thrown off at trying to show how they are symbols of ambition, etc. Any help?
Not quite sure where you're missing out, because you seem to have it all down nicely.
Your premises are good and you've got the descriptions right, looks to me as though you're ready to write it up.
I guess I'm just sort of asking should I just describe the character and his actions and then compare that to the type of ambition I'm saying he represents? That's what I've been doing, I already have about 1/2 - 2/3 of it done.
Very good. :thumbs_up
My thesis is: Uneducated people are easily manipulated because they depend on others for information. I need 3 supporting facts from animal farm for this. I'm going to use how the seven commandments change as one. Can anyone give me some ideas about the other two...and examples from the book. Much thanks.
I've posted your question and my answer in the Official Homework help thread here.
From new thread:
The book is littered with them:Quote:
Originally Posted by student0310
The changing story behind the Battle of the Cowshed.
The explanations given by Squealer like:"no animal may sleep in a bed with sheets
The ever-decreasing feed while being told they were getting more.
The sheep - easily swayed to be puppets of the regime.
The battle and alliance with neighbours.
The confessions - which is probably the most interesting one; kind of like a Stockholm-syndrome thing, the animals were frequently told that plots exist, ergo it must be true and some animals imagined they were part of it.
See how you go with those to start off!
Forgive me if this question has already been answered, I didn't see it anywhere else:
I'm a little stuck on what the Barn represents. I believe it's the collective memory of Animal Farm. I'm just not quite sure what Orwell was trying to tell us.
Thanks in advance.
Interesting thought - I never figured the barn being anything more than the home and meeting place of the animals. I don't know about the collective memory idea; the animals don't have a memory beyond what Benjamin doesn't tell anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banksy
Maybe Bazarov has an idea on it.
Maybe... I don't that there is something special in the barn. That's the biggest possible meeting place on farm, so it was probably picked because of that. Also, when peasants ( in real world ) had their big local meetings, they were also organized in the barns. Maybe some symbolism in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Atheist
Collective memory doesn't exist, only what Benjamin tells them. The barn could represent place where everything started with Old Major's speech; it is the moment when history of Animal Farm starts to exist and that moment that will stay everyones memory, no matter of other later experiences.
Official, it was your 500th post! It's mine 1500th! :banana:
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Originally Posted by bazarov
I hadn't even noticed - good spot!
About 490 of them are in this forum, I think.
Couldn't it be possible to say that in changing the Commandmants, Squealer also changes the memories of the animals?
Yep, that's exactly the idea!
The animals modify their memories to fit the situation and the old memories eventually fade right away, to be replaced by false ones.
Exactly...Memories will always look just like Pigs want them to look like, and Napoleon will always be right.
Thank you for your time and help guys, much appreciated.
You're welcome.
i need help fast.:(
can someone help me think of some ideas for a parargraph.
on george orwells animal farm??
please?
Try the homework help thread - lots of good stuff in there. Top of the main page.Quote:
Originally Posted by kayleemarie08
Hi all,
just wondering if anyone could help me out with an english essay which i have to do :bawling:
the question is: ‘Animal farm remains relevant in the 21st century.’ Discuss this quote and evaluate how effectively the text conveys its meanings.
any ideas will greatly be accepted XD
~.~THANX~.~
I am not sure of the scope of the essay you are about to write, but you could certainly write one considering how the revolution uses propaganda to flatter the masses and gain support in AF and compare this relation to other "revolutionary" movements. Imagine the posters and slogans painted on the walls in AF, and compare these to those plastered on walls in any dictatorship today.
Cheers,
John
As usual, jgweed is dead right.
Essentially, human nature doesn't change. Think along the lines of Lord Acton's famous words; "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely", which is the whole point of Animal Farm. North Korea, Zimbabwe and several other countries show that right now.
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This forum has been extrememly helpful!!!!:lol:
I am currently doing some research on Animal Farm, and i'm having to look into Napoleon's character.....can I get some help on it? See....Napoleon is all high and mighty, right? And he thinks the farm couldn't survive without him....but, who is the true indespensable one at animal farm? I have read and re-read the entire book, but i'm still stuck on that question! I thought it might be Squealer, or maybe Boxer, but i'm not totally sure. Any ideas or thoughts?????
I think Napoleon would know that he isn't indispensible at all, but he must sell that concept to the other animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by aliceinwonder
Boxer is probably the closest to an indispensible character - although he is dispensed with at the end, prior to that time, the pigs would not have been able to buy replacement horses and it was Boxer's strength which carried them through.
In terms of indispensible to the story rather than the farm itself, I'd go for Old Major. Without his ideals, the revolution would never have happened.
Boxer is more, I think, the party loyalist who is fooled by Napoleon (Stalin) and is utterly dedicated to the party line. Think of some of the "confessions" made by that type during the purges.
Yep, he is the hard-working Russian peasantry that Stalin [& Napoleon] built his empire upon.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgweed
I was just referring to his physical attributes. As well as doing the hard work, the Battle of the Cowshed would probably have been lost without him.
i am doing an english 10 class and i need to write an essay on how animal farm represents the russian revolution and world war 2 and i need to hand it in tommorow can someone plz help me out..
Read the thread at the top of this page - it's all in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikita-xo
i really help finding rare, interesting points or symbolisms in animal farm! its urgent!
please dont suggest sites like sparknotes, gradesaver, cliffsnotes or novelguide. have used sites like that already.
Thread above yours, sticky one; is all you need. If you read the book, they you'll understand it, and if you need further help post questions.
hi i kno im like your millionthh person to ask but i was wondering if i could have your opinion on what i should write for an assigment on animal farm?
this is the question ;
put animal farm into context and and a brief summary.
a description of the text that analyses key features and significant events in the text. (for your response concentate on the world or society being presented and any links you can find to our world).
a judgement of the text that includes your opinions and maybe some recommendations.
ANY HELP WILL BE MUCHHHLY APPRICIATED :)
Please, read the story, it's 50 pages; and then check this thread from start and if you will have any questions, doubts or further explanation, ask here.
Write short summary of the plot, explain what events in real world story describes, relation humans - animals, who is who...
So, I am not entirely sure if this has already been covered, because I was going to read the entire thread, but I didn't have time, but anyway, when I read animal farm, one of the first things that I noticed was how strongly Orwell seemed to contrast Benjamin and Boxer. They were foils of each other, the two extremes of the people in the society of Russia, being Boxer (the ignorantly faithful) and Benjamin (the way too cynical for his own good).
Since Boxer accepts anything that is said by Napolean, he does not refuse the ample amounts of abuse that he is laden with. He does not recognize the corruption because in his mind it is all for the revolution, for the better society that everything has been sacrificed for. Benjamin, on the other hand, fully recognizes the pigs corruption immediately, but his cynisims is so large in magnitude, that he is unable to hope for anything better, because he believes it wouldn't come. the only time he shows any signs of hope is when the pigs are selling boxer, when he is being taken away, but by that time, it is far too late to rebel against the pigs.
Again, I am not sure if this has been said, but Moses is allowed back on the farm for the same reason the song "Beasts of England" is no longer sung. Once the pigs have reached their full corruption where all of the other animals are suffering in poverty, their perfect society that was the original reason for rebellion has been reached. However the other animals singing about a perfect society would make them realize that they were no where near that perfection. Moses is allowed to come back so that the animals, instead of having to sit in their poverty watching the pigs in wealth, thinking that this was not the perfect society they were striving for, will be able to hope for that better society after they die. Instead of Utopia in this life, ther is one in the next.
I have to do an essay, and it is:
"What human qualities does George orwell satirise in Animal Farm?"
I had to choose three qualities to do it on, and I chose gullibility, greed, and hypocrisy.
I wanted some clarification on the topic. Does it mean I have to state and briefly explain the quality, give an example of when it is in AF, and then explain how the instance I have described actually denoted that quality?