I guess the term "humungous twat" does fit this thread. I'm glad that I have nothing else to note here.
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I guess the term "humungous twat" does fit this thread. I'm glad that I have nothing else to note here.
I share your opinion in terms of talking about sex with a partner or with a son or a daughter. It should be a domain that is reserved for parents only. Unfortunately, there is a big push to introduce sex education for children as young as 5 years old. It sounds that it is a programming to accept pedophilia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helga
Michelle Fields - Chicago Public Schools Sex Ed Policy Extended to Kindergarden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihPvR4bi8Y
I disagree with the premise of the thread. Since when are people reluctant to talk about sex? Half of the people I know seldom talk about anything else.
I’ll grant that explicit descriptions of sex were literary taboos until the last 100 years or so (“Ulysses” was banned in the U.S. for being pornographic). However, times have changed (as Cole Porter wrote in the 1920s), and now “anything goes”.
Good taste may still suggest that romance is more interesting that sex (although the two are surely walking hand in hand, if not actively necking ). After all, when Jane Austen wrote about a dinner party at Rosings, readers remember the conversation between Darcy, Col. Fitzwilliam, Lady Catherine, and Elizabeth, but not the menu. For all I can remember (and I’ve read the book several times), descriptions of the meat and fish were sparse.
So the “good taste” that prefers scenes of romance or flirtation to those of sexual congress is not a form of prudery. It is the same taste that prefers descriptions of witty conversation (ala Austen) to descriptions of food. Food nourishes the body; friendship nourishes the mind and soul. Has literature been improved by a more open attitude toward graphic descriptions of sex? Well, I don’t hold it against Poldy Bloom that he masturbated on the beach, while ogling some women. I’m glad Joyce wrote the scene. But in the end, I’d rather read (or talk) about relationships than sex, and dinner conversations than food. It’s more interesting.
One more thing: in literature (and, by extension, conversation) the merely physical tends to be boring. The essence of drama is relationships. One of my favorite pieces of advice for budding writers came from the novelist and essayist Kingsley Amis. When asked if he could offer young novelists any advice he said, "Never mention clouds."
Phew, what a bunch of personal drama going on here, lol. Perhaps sex is such a taboo topic.
That's because you are not yet used to ftil's tendency to muster support for her delusions from any conspiracy theorists on the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaman_Raman
In this thread alone we have her quoting from a white supremacist website, and it is not the first time I have caught her doing so.
The section she quotes insinuates that Jews are behind a conspiracy of sexual corruption to degrade Western society.
On top of that, the passage quotes Judith Reisman, a woman who thinks all Nazis were gay, that all gays are pedophiles, and that they recruit other gays by deliberately molesting children.
Anyone who doesn't realize ftil is a twat is as big a twat as she is.
She does not engage in debate, but rather obfuscation. She is a troll and should probably be banned.
It has nothing to do with the subject and everything to do with a certain individual who repeatedly brings her personal obsessions and endless citations from occultists, antisemitics, and racists to bear upon whatever the topic at hand is. Several threads upon a subject as seemingly non-controversial as the discussion of art and painting have been closed as a result of a certain individual who I suspect is almost allowed to run rampant because her posts bring a certain drama to an otherwise staid site.
That's because you are not yet used to ftil's tendency to muster support for her delusions from any conspiracy theorists on the net.
In this thread alone we have her quoting from a white supremacist website, and it is not the first time I have caught her doing so.
The section she quotes insinuates that Jews are behind a conspiracy of sexual corruption to degrade Western society.
On top of that, the passage quotes Judith Reisman, a woman who thinks all Nazis were gay, that all gays are pedophiles, and that they recruit other gays by deliberately molesting children.
Anyone who doesn't realize ftil is a twat is as big a twat as she is.
She does not engage in debate, but rather obfuscation. She is a troll and should probably be banned.
:iagree:
What he said.
Wow so who does she hate more I wonder - Jews or Nazis?
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Originally Posted by stlukesguild
Here you go again. And you accused me of doing character assassination. :biggrin5:
You know very well that I may start believing in conspiracy after you have lost half of your posts as you made 10k +. It will be only conspiracy worth of my attention. :lol:
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In this thread alone we have her quoting from a white supremacist website, and it is not the first time I have caught her doing so.
The section she quotes insinuates that Jews are behind a conspiracy of sexual corruption to degrade Western society.
Well, I don’t agree with everything what the author wrote. I posted that article because it was stimulating enough to do own research and to find out whether it was truth about Kinsey or not.
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On top of that, the passage quotes Judith Reisman, a woman who thinks all Nazis were gay, that all gays are pedophiles, and that they recruit other gays by deliberately molesting children.
Anyone who doesn't realize ftil is a twat is as big a twat as she is.
She does not engage in debate, but rather obfuscation. She is a troll and should probably be banned.
I thought that you can argue your point without calling names. :reddevil: Intellectual constipation? Is it a reason to ask for banning me? :biggrin5: Have you forgotten our conversation on your art threads or Pornography or Voyeurism in Sex? How would you call our conversation? You know very well that I post only when I feel inspired. I don’t have time to waste and world is much bigger than virtual reality.
I have a gift for you. A documentary movie, Yorkshire Television production for Channel 4, produced and directed by Tim Tate, aired August 10, 1998. In words of former Kinsey’s colleagues. Argue with them...... or try to ban them. :lol:
Secret History: Kinsey's Paedophiles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nkeRvtPmn0
Ftil succumbs to short tempers. I used to discuss sex with her and we have talked a lot on D. H. Lawrence’s Sons and Lovers. Of course we have differences and everybody has. What we talk here does not mirror our real self. That I openly and overtly discuss sex here does not mean I am perverted and what I might have said could be fictional. Ftil connected what I wrote to my life and philosophy and I still do not have animosity with her. I like to discuss with her more but she withdrew and she kind of created a sour relationship.
I urge her let us be cool, fitl. I have no access to your PM and that is why I want to say in public that you are an intelligent person and your presence here on the forum is really making it more interesting.
Never take anything personally and what I said cannot totally reflect who I am and what I am writing is mostly fictionalization for literature. Literature is mostly fiction, imagination and reality has a narrower domain and of course we have to fiction, fancy and imagination hinge on for our materials.
I never took you personally and you recently maybe after many months we had discussions and it went very well until you took it personally and felt offended though there was little stuff and no intention to offend you, my friend
Let know my generosity as I may respond to your post. First, you have opened 2 threads about pornography in two months as if one thread was not enough. Are you surprised that as a female I addressed that subject as there are many misconceptions. In fact, I talked to 2 former prostitutes who successfully recovered. One of them who did master in counseling and had been working with prostitutes for more than 20 years shared her knowledge. Very painful indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by osho
Second, I had conversation with you about D. H. Lawrence’s Sons and Lovers. I got bored when you started repeating the old arguments. Politely, I ended our discussion but you couldn’t accept that and push to continue. When you didn’t succeed you become abusive. Who has a short temper? Unlike you, I don't jump from being charming to being abusive. I value my integrity and I can't stand charm but love honesty.
That all. I don’t have anything else to say to you. You better put me on ignore list as I did. :lol:
Enjoy LitNet
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Since this thread is not serving its original purpose anymore,
it will now be closed.
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Osho> Please feel free to restart the thread again if you are still interested in the topic.