Why do many women find 'the male body' ugly?

I understand about not wanting to follow links..

“The Doctor” is the character from Doctor Who, played most recently by three very different, not traditionally good looking men; I find all of them sexy.
“Sherlock” is the modern up to date version of Sherlock Holmes played by the almost alien looking Benedict Cumberbatch, gorgeous.

In some ways my liking them ads to the argument that men tend to be sexier with their clothes on and it is what they say/do that makes them sexy , not as can be the case with women, just lying around semi clad - Kelly Brook you naughty angel you.

I think there may be a confusion happening between what women like to look at and how women feel about their actual partners. “Fantasy” men tend to be better clothes on, I would hope, like you Vonny, most women like to see and touch their real men in what ever state of dress/undress he’s in, I know I do.

As for taking a break from the forum, I hope you don’t, I for one enjoy your contributions :)

More women need to comment upon the subject of this thread as I have yet been unable to slip this into general chit chat.

Edit: apparently some women like PE teachers...

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Originally Posted by Bluehound

I understand about not wanting to follow links..

“The Doctor” is the character from Doctor Who, played most recently by three very different, not traditionally good looking men; I find all of them sexy.
“Sherlock” is the modern up to date version of Sherlock Holmes played by the almost alien looking Benedict Cumberbatch, gorgeous.

In some ways my liking them ads to the argument that men tend to be sexier with their clothes on and it is what they say/do that makes them sexy , not as can be the case with women, just lying around semi clad - Kelly Brook you naughty angel you.

I think there may be a confusion happening between what women like to look at and how women feel about their actual partners. “Fantasy” men tend to be better clothes on, I would hope, like you Vonny, most women like to see and touch their real men in what ever state of dress/undress he’s in, I know I do.

As for taking a break from the forum, I hope you don’t, I for one enjoy your contributions :)

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I had momentarily forgotten you Bluehound, a while back when I said I don't like women!

I agree completely. I'll take your word for the links. I don't watch tv or movies too much. When someone mentioned a Dr. Who exhibition before I had to Google it because I'd never heard of it.

I won't say much more, as I'm already nearly too embarrassed to return here.

Just want to make an adjustment to something I already blurted out - I don't like "feminine" men. That came out wrong. I just don't like men who are completely shut down on that side, and I like some unusual subtleties... I'm not sure if "feminine" is the word that describes it at all. I'm not attracted to gay men. (But this makes me think of something my gay brother says. It's men who fear they may have some tendencies themselves who want to kill gays. And those are the kind of men I don't like.) Also, I'm not sure why I said all of that about my girlfriend, just neither of us can sleep alone, really.

Secondly, regarding women being in a coven - that is what is known as "the great sisterhood." My brother put me on to "the great sisterhood" after watching many hours of television and movies with his wife, and then I began to notice it everywhere myself. The sisterhood alternates between crucifying men and talking about them in "objectifying" terms. I hadn't been able to put that word to it before. When I first saw the word "objectifying," I thought, "What is that?" But then I put it together. They see men more as objects than as people, and they do this with a group mentality. It appears that the women are bonding around this - but those same women subtly persecute each other, or at least they persecute some other woman.


One other thing: consider having the wife's drinking water analyzed.

According to this advertisement, women much prefer hunky men.


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:lol: Well, I've already sent off for mine. I'm hoping it comes with those Tigar pants as well as they would make a good addition to the Neely wardrobe.

Vonny, I also love your posts, facinating honestly (no sarcasm). More please.

Ok, now the wonderful music of Rocky Horror is stuck in my head...might need to have a watch of it this weekend :)


"But a deltoid and a bicep, a hot groin and a tricep
Makes me shake, makes me wanna take Charles Atlas by the...hand.

In just seven days I can make you a maaaaan.

I don't want no dissension, just dynamic tension."

(Janet)" I'm a muscle fan."

:blush5:

Why are you embarrased, Vonny? I've seen nothing that should warrant you being so. He'll, I've said many embarrasing things, but it's an anonymous forum and don't really care--I probably wouldn't care if they weren't anonymous, either, lol.

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Originally Posted by Neely

:lol: Well, I've already sent off for mine. I'm hoping it comes with those Tigar pants as well as they would make a good addition to the Neely wardrobe.

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Well of course, if you have had sand kicked in your face, something needs to be done about it, but if you look closely, you will note that the pants have no opening. Therefore, were you to be taken short, they could prove very problematical to a hero of the beach.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

Why are you embarrased, Vonny? I've seen nothing that should warrant you being so. He'll, I've said many embarrasing things, but it's an anonymous forum and don't really care--I probably wouldn't care if they weren't anonymous, either, lol.

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Thank you Mutatis. I'm glad you think I've done alright. I've never said those things before, so it felt weird.

One other thought I had is, there seems to be an idea that women who don't want an extremely hunky man are interested in someone "non-threatening." That's not it for me, anyway. Those men are just not interesting.

I came here to this website and began looking around and became way, way too exuberant.

It's just that if you could see the kind of people of North Idaho, both men and women -- I live a rather isolated life, I suppose, mostly small town, except I work in little bit larger town. I really don't associate with anyone, other than my little circle. -- People here are very one-dimensional, very stuck in their Christian conservative ideology. The men drive big trucks and try to run you off the road. If it were to become known that my brother and his partner are gay, they would lose their jobs, and maybe worse.

The men are so concerned with being MEN, as they think God intended them to be. I won't describe the result. As I said, I avoid them.

Growing up, I lived most of the time very far out in the country. I didn't even go to school much.

All I normally do is work and do outdoor things, such as hiking or skiing. I don't go to bars, clubs, theaters, plays, concerts, parties, and rarely to restaurants. I don't even shop much, other than online. So when I come here and see and hear about clubs and concerts and formal parties, and people dressed up in all kinds of unusual costumes, I know nothing about it. So I guess I became fascinated by it.

For the most part, I haven't minded my isolated life. It suits me in many ways, and I haven't felt that I've really missed anything. I'm not lonely.

And so I don't know what happened when I came here and saw some very different people, not only in appearance, but in thinking -- and people that are real, not in a movie -- even in movies, (and I don't watch many), I haven't seen people like this. And I thought - "That's NEAT, that is so NEAT!!" ...and then I don't know what happened to my judgement - it just flew out the window.

Maybe the word "naive," or even ignorant, does fit me after all. And maybe that's why I've felt embarrassed. :lol:

I find it so difficult to understand why people are still judged (let alone persecuted) for their sexuality in this day and age.
Bad things still happen to LGBT people in the UK but generally it is becoming more excepted and in my town it is not unusual to see same sex couples holding hands and showing affection.
If I was your brother and his boyfriend I would tell them to stuff thier jobs and get on the next train out of there, but I guess life is not that simple. If it were we would all be happy as Larry .

Ooops , think we have gone a bit off topic...

mmm Leopard print Y-fronted speedos anyone :)

Vonny,

It's easy to forget that the Internet is often misleading and gives a different picture to what is intended. Naturally, many people have done the social things you mention but they are the exception rather than the rule.
Most, if not all of us, lead a mundane existence in which we occasionally manage to do something more enjoyable or interesting. It's in the nature of things that if we have to earn our living, we are not free. The people on this forum generally have one thing in common and that's literature, but I'm sure their existence isn't markedly different from those on other forums and a number of them live in similar isolated regions to your own. Members may like to relieve the daily round with amusing chit chat and jokes but, despite the badinage, it's not difficult to discern a good deal of dissatisfaction among some of the contributors.
So you are not so different after all and if you like hiking and skiing, Idaho is a good place to be living.

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Originally Posted by Emil Miller

Vonny,

It's easy to forget that the Internet is often misleading and gives a different picture to what is intended. Naturally, many people have done the social things you mention but they are the exception rather than the rule.
Most, if not all of us, lead a mundane existence in which we occasionally manage to do something more enjoyable or interesting. It's in the nature of things that if we have to earn our living, we are not free. The people on this forum generally have one thing in common and that's literature, but I'm sure their existence isn't markedly different from those on other forums and a number of them live in similar isolated regions to your own. Members may like to relieve the daily round with amusing chit chat and jokes but, despite the badinage, it's not difficult to discern a good deal of dissatisfaction among some of the contributors.
So you are not so different after all and if you like hiking and skiing, Idaho is a good place to be living.

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I wish there was a 'like' button for this post :)

Come on more ladies please. I want to know more. :smash:

Surely the male form is a thing of beauty? Think of Michelangelo's David, Hollywood's Pitt or Sheffield's very own Litnet's hunk in tiger shorts... A male thing of beauty is a joy forever, etc, etc.

Despite several female persons saying that males are not as attractive as females, I dispel the myth. I fight for equality...

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Originally Posted by Neely

Come on more ladies please. I want to know more. :smash:

Surely the male form is a thing of beauty? Think of Michelangelo's David, Hollywood's Pitt or Sheffield's very own Litnet's hunk in tiger shorts... A male thing of beauty is a joy forever, etc, etc.

Despite several female persons saying that males are not as attractive as females, I dispel the myth. I fight for equality...

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I don't know, Neely, I think you're fighting a losing battle. I think if looked at as objectively as possible, a woman's body is just more aesthetically pleasing. It's curvy, elegant, soft, and doesn't have a conspicuous, wrinkly cucumber between its legs.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

I don't know, Neely, I think you're fighting a losing battle. I think if looked at as objectively as possible, a woman's body is just more aesthetically pleasing. It's curvy, elegant, soft, and doesn't have a conspicuous, wrinkly cucumber between its legs.

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:lol: Certainly, certainly.

I am more than pleased with women's bodies and I am not complaining one bit (:smilewinkgrin:) however I can't understand the "ugly" male vision from the female heterosexual point of view. I'm just confused. Cucumbers can be cool as well...