The Earth is FIXED in Space

So glad you agree. Since that is the fact of it. A fact nobody here has evidence against because there is none. What we have instead are people unable to show differently. And it shows. So much for the dogmas of the past 400 years, yes ?

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Originally Posted by Satan

Proof that Earth indeed is the center of the universe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8AN6TIbm4

You clearly have no idea, Kiki. Sorry! ;)

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If you can find a book which shows that the Earth revolves around the Sun (which is what you believe) we will all marvel. It will be more marvellous than your education, in fact, since, at this time you cannot produce a shred of evidence to support your beliefs. Many hours later. Your beliefs lack any support. And it shows.

So, yes, please provide some proof from a book that says the opposite to what has been said. We wish to see it. Take your time. It will be really interesting to see it. Centuries of proofs must exist in all these textbooks, yes ? LOL !! I mean, you wouldn't believe science fiction, would you ?

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Originally Posted by MarkBastable

So, if I can find a book that says the opposite, are we even?

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The rotation of Earth can be proven in several ways. One is the Foucault experiment. This was first conducted in 1851, by the Frenchman Léon Foucault. He suspended a heavy iron ball from a 200 ft (61 m) wire, creating a pendulum, from the dome of the Pantheon in Paris. He put sand underneath the pendulum, and placed a pin on the bottom of the ball, so it would leave a mark on its swing from side to side. On each swing, over the course of 24 hours, the mark in the sand would move to the right. The direction in the path showed movement of the earth against the swing of the pendulum.

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Read more: Earth's Rotation http://science.jrank.org/pages/2222/...#ixzz0jy3K6h2q

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There was no straightforward proof for the motion of Earth until 1725 when James Bradley discovered stellar aberration. This is (apparent) yearly change in positions of all stars in the sky due to Earth's own motion. Aberration arises due to adding up of the speed of light coming from the star and Earth's own speed. This is a very complex phenomenon and its description requires some math.

Another, much simpler, consequence of Earth's motion is stellar parallax. If Earth changes its position relative to the stars, than the stars should appear to change position in the course of the year.....

...Parallax of a star was first measured by Bessel in 1838. It was not measured before because this change of star's apparent position is very small (the stars are very far from us). This was a very important discovery because Aristotle himself mentioned the lack of observable stellar parallax as the proof that the Earth is not moving (he didn't have a telescope and didn't know that the stars are so distant).

A third discovery proving Earth's motion was that of Doppler effect. Wavelength of the light that we receive from objects moving relative to us becomes a little shorter (i.e. bluer) when we approach the source and becomes longer (i.e. redder) when we move away from the source. When Earth moves toward a star, the star will appear slightly bluer (only high-tech instruments can measure this) while it will appear redder when Earth is on the other side of the orbit and moves in the opposite direction. This effect proves that Earth has a velocity relative to the stars, similar to aberration.

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http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=190

Sorry, but you have been misinformed. Just as the Moon affects tides, so also do heavenly bodies affect the Earth, including the Sun. All of these bodies rotating the Earth. Thus, your 'evidence' of alleged 'Earth rotation' is nothing of the kind. It is the effect of gravity between the Earth and those heavenly bodies which (as said) are continually rotating around it. Planets, stars and the Sun.

Can you provide some better evidence of the 'rotation of the Earth' ? Explaining, as you do, how the atmosphere of the Earth remains with us if the entire Earth is moving and rotating at great velocity ?

A speed of rotation said (by your textbooks) to be -

About 1,038 miles per hour. The atmosphere at the equator is also slightly thicker due to rotation, and you weigh slightly less. At mid-latitudes, the speed of the Earth's rotation decreases to 700 to 900 miles per hour.

So, what happens to Earth's atmosphere if the Earth is really rotating at close to 1,000 mies per hour in some places but at far slower speeds in others ? And what is your firm evidence of that rotation ? Since I often see cloud formations which move little in hours.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

Read more: Earth's Rotation http://science.jrank.org/pages/2222/...#ixzz0jy3K6h2q

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http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=190

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Originally Posted by Musicology

Explaining, as you do, how the atmosphere of the Earth remains with us if the entire Earth is moving and rotating at great velocity ?

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Gravity.

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Originally Posted by Satan

Proof that Earth indeed is the center of the universe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8AN6TIbm4

You clearly have no idea, Kiki. Sorry! ;)

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Tja, it's always the others that are mad, eh?

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Originally Posted by Musicology

Can you provide us with some better evidence of the 'rotation of the Earth'. Explaining, as you do, how the atmosphere of the Earth remains with us if the entire Earth is moving and rotating at great velocity ?

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Uh, it's called gravity...

You see planets with low gravity like Mars have very tiny atmospheres, planets like Jupiter with a lot of mass have high gravity and very large atmospheres. Even the Moon has an atmosphere, it's just so sparse it is practically a vacuum.

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Originally Posted by Musicology

So glad you agree. Since that is the fact of it. A fact nobody here has evidence against because there is none.

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:iagree:

Just as good existed before evil and darkness before light, the eternal words of religious scriptures far outweigh the conflicting words of scientific dogma. What I find quite amusing is if Earth isn't a static object, how do those snobbish scientists send probes to other planets? But who needs logic anyway!

What did people know then ?

Why not build the Great Pyramid and tell us yourself ?

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Originally Posted by kiki1982

You have still not got us any proof of that apart from Bible verses of thousands and thousands of years old.

What did people know then?

It is sad :bawling:

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Originally Posted by Musicology

Can you provide us with some better evidence of the 'rotation of the Earth'. Explaining, as you do, how the atmosphere of the Earth remains with us if the entire Earth is moving and rotating at great velocity ?

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If, as you say the other planets are rotating around us how does Venus and Mars have an atmosphere? How do the atmosphere's of the gas giants like Jupiter or Saturn (and for that matter Saturn's rings) stay with those planets?

And how do lunar astronauts walk on the film studio, oops, lunar surface ? :crash:

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Originally Posted by Satan

:iagree:

Just as good existed before evil and darkness before light, the eternal words of religious scriptures far outweigh the conflicting words of scientific dogma. What I find quite amusing is if Earth isn't a static object, how do those snobbish scientists send probes to other planets? But who needs logic anyway!

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Originally Posted by Musicology

So, yes, please provide some proof from a book that says the opposite to what has been said.

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But you haven't provided proof from a book - you've provided a statement from a book, without any evidential back-up of the statement.

That is to assume that the 'atmospheres' of Venus and Mars exist. And that the 'gas' to who which you refer is gas and not dust or other matter. But, if possible, let us stay with the evidence presented here from Earth. Since we can easily be diverted from the images and evidence already presented here of Earth.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

If, as you say the other planets are rotating around us how does Venus and Mars have an atmosphere? How do the atmosphere's of the gas giants like Jupiter or Saturn (and for that matter Saturn's rings) stay with those planets?

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Originally Posted by Musicology

And how do lunar astronauts walk on the film studio, oops, lunar surface ? :crash:

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The answer is gravity again...

You know that pesky force of attraction based on the masses of two objects multiplied by each other and divided by the square of the distance between them and subsequently multiplied by the gravitational constant? Well that's Newtonian mechanics which is technically only a functional approximation.

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Originally Posted by Musicology

That is to assume that the 'atmospheres' of Venus and Mars exist. And that the 'gas' to who which you refer is gas and not dust or other matter. But, if possible, let us stay with the evidence presented here from Earth. Since we can easily be diverted from the images and evidence already presented here of Earth.

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Jesus, I think elementary school children have a better understanding of physics and chemistry than you.

Are you refering to that well known occultist and alchemist - Isaac Newton ? (Who shot to fame with the assistance of the Venetian occultists who supported him). The Royal Society of London being stuffed with them from the early years of its formation ? Or to the occultist Charles Darwin, whose grandfather was member of the occultist Lunar Society ? And Charles Darwin, close associate of the occultist teachings of population control occultists. Social Darwinism, in fact. Ask Malthus, his close friend. 'Survival of the fittest', yes ? And what of Abbe G. Ortes, founder of eugenics in the century before, whose writings were greatly admired by Darwin's own friends. Or perhaps you are refering to occultist A. Einstein ? Credited with having invented a 'theory' on relativity based on the dogmatic assumption that the Earth is moving at great speed round the sun ? A dogma used to conceal the plainest facts.

I dare to say children in schools are not aware of these things too. But their teachers and parents may care. At least, we hope. Since, in all cases, their dogmas are not allowed to be publicly exposed as fiction.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

The answer is gravity again...

You know that pesky force of attraction based on the masses of two objects multiplied by each other and divided by the square of the distance between them and subsequently multiplied by the gravitational constant? Well that's Newtonian mechanics which is technically only a functional approximation.



Jesus, I think elementary school children have a better understanding of physics and chemistry than you.

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Originally Posted by Musicology

Are you refering to that well known occultist and alchemist Isaac Newton ? (Who shot to fame with the assistance of the Venetian occultists who supported him). The Royal Society of London being stuffed with them from the early years of its formation ? Or to the occultist Charles Darwin, whose grandfather was member of the occultist Lunar Society ? Or perhaps to the occultist Alfred Einstein ?

I dare to say children in schools are not aware of these things too. But their teachers may care. At least, we hope.

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And it is no mere co-incidence that even Newton was seduced with an apple just as in case with Adam and Eve. I have always presented this argument against using Apple products, but that requires its own dedicated thread.

Thank you for opening my eyes. "Truth shall set you free."