Living without religions

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Originally Posted by NikolaiI

Have you read Hearts in Atlantis? Read it.

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I gave you Aristophanes and you give me Stephen King ?!!!!!! No comments...!

We already did this and we are but harvesting what we have done. Loving only man, means being very selfish. God is not the God of man only God is every creature's God. He is God of the Sky God of earth God of angels God of birds God of Trees God of animals God of everything and entirely everything what man claims to know and what one does not. Loving man only, leaves all God's creatures neglected.

However, many did this and decided to have there own code of ethics of life. A man made one. But what did that lead to. What did people who allow interest and Usury in banks do. They finally discovered that Allah's order preventing interest is the only right thing and are banks in America are starting to make their interest zero.

Adultery and freedom of sexual relationships, what did that lead to? Had we submitted to the Divine order from the beginning we would have definetly lived a better life.

Why is it so difficult to believe that without God, we are at a total loss? Why did Solomon's ant discover there is God and human beings who are actually minds can't reach this conclusion. He is so near, where are we searching?

Adam was man number one upon earth, and he knew`and talked with God directly. Then came Noah, Abraham, that came with a scripture, Moses that came with scripture, David that came with a scripture, Jesus that came with a scripture, and finally Muhammad, that came with a scripture and all the scripture include exactly the same Godly order and code of life.

Even the latest of scientifce theories are trying and are about to detect God. The String theory is one of these latest theories that are proving the Existence of the maker of everything existing. It is not because we cannot understand his nature that he is not there, He is and He will always be, and unto Him we will return so soon.

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Originally Posted by skasian

But isnt believing a God between Krishna Buddha Christ or any other dedicating yourself to become religious? If you start believing and taking faith in a God, then it is inevitable you become active in a religion. This is because when you start having faith in a God, you start to worship, and follow their ways and words. How can you be individually religious? You automatically become classified into a religious group, therefore religion is inevitable.

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Originally Posted by skasian

Thanks for sharing your views, and some information I have not been across such as Judaism and their values.
Your point about personal religion is exactly my point. Religion doesnt have to be in a group or society, all it requires is a system. A system dedicated to god(s) or inner belief. Personal religion is religion afterall. Personal or not, it is still religion. Therefore even if an individual worships God, they are religious and it takes one person to form a religion.

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:lol:
do you even know what youre saying?
"i like pineapple, but i dont like pineapple."
"i believe in groups of people, but i dont believe in groups of people"
"i dont think this point is important, therefore its the crucial point"

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Originally Posted by weltanschauung

:lol:
do you even know what youre saying?
"i like pineapple, but i dont like pineapple."
"i believe in groups of people, but i dont believe in groups of people"
"i dont think this point is important, therefore its the crucial point"

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif

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Your ideas seem very deep and profound and in point of fact out of my comprehension.

Maybe I am not mature enough to map your range of ideas. No doubt they are insightful and penetrating. You made an analogue that is really profound and not out of the premeditated notions of things.

it happens.

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Originally Posted by weltanschauung

:lol:
do you even know what youre saying?
"i like pineapple, but i dont like pineapple."
"i believe in groups of people, but i dont believe in groups of people"
"i dont think this point is important, therefore its the crucial point"

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif

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Not quite sorry. It seems you have misunderstood my views about individual and system of religion.

Religion is always a system, holding a purpose to serve a higher being of having a following a specific philosophy. This system applies to a group of followers as well as being applied to an individual. For example, a person is a Christian, this person is involved in a religion, and in a group of followers that serve the same God. But a Christian that doesnt go to church, a congregation of the religious, is involved in religion independently and personally, ie praying to God privately and working and serving Him by themselves. This way, as the system of religion can apply in one fixed person but also in a group of people, my thoughts are not wrong.

Belonging to a system of religion is not concrete as a pineapple or a fixed thought, so you are wrong about my views.