Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Read not to contradict and confute, nor to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider.
SIr Francis Bacon
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Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Read not to contradict and confute, nor to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider.
SIr Francis Bacon
Maybe Annamariah can answer better than me, because I can't speak finnish and swedish. But I know that swedish is a Germanic language (so Indo-European) while Finnish belongs to the Finno-Ugric languages, which are not Indo-European. So there isn't any relation between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by crisaor
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Originally Posted by crisaor
I don't speak either fluently, but have studied both a bit. They are not languages one could understand in an interchangeable way. As somebody pointed out, Finnish and Swedish do not belong to the same language families. Also, Finnish is particularly isolated. It is very unlike almost every language on earth except with a few distant exceptions within its language family, but it is rather different even from those. It's one of those languages that frequently shows up on "hardest to learn" lists because of its noun declensions, also. But it has a lovely, beautiful sound.
As ranzy and Cien already said, Finnish and Swedish are not related, even though Finland and Sweden are neighbours. The only language which reminds Finnish quite a bit is Estonian. On the other hand, the rest of the Scandinavian languages are very much alike (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish), so maybe you were remembering that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crisaor
Swedish is a compulsory subject in Finnish schools, so every Finn should be able to speak it ;)
I see, thank you Annamariah, you're probably right, perhaps I was remembering the other scandinavian languages. I've only heard a bit of bokmål (norwegian), and it sounded nice, if that's any indication for the others. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Annamariah
Good to know about swedish teaching in finnish schools, that's also another explanation, even if there isn't any language compatibility.
And thanks to ranzy and cien also, you've been very helpful too.
I really like Japanese, German, Arabic, korean, French and English because they're really beautiful and unique. Although I really love all the languages except.....
I detest Latin-- mostly because of my current latin teacher who can't teach it correctly, and the last part because the Romans were crazy and had to make exceptions to everything. You can't even speak it or know if you're pronounciating it correctly as they are no audio files online or affordable audio tapes >.<
What a nice thread indeed! I enjoyed reading all the inputs, it’s a nice way to learn more about you fellow LitNetters. And of course, being Austrian, I blushed and positively beamed with joy when I saw some of you mention that you liked Austrian German. It’s a funny version of German which some Austrian authors have recently started to explore (and exploit, for the pleasure of many Austrian readers). And just for the record, no, neither Nena's songs nor the "Ode to Joy" are in Austrian German but very much in German "Made in Germany".
As for my own favourite languages, I simply love all of them, I guess (even Latin, which I’ve been studying for six years and read rather fluently back when I was a teenager). I’ve learned English and French at school, Spanish at university, and have tried to self-teach me Italian (only the swear words and the odd sentence stuck), Arabic, Russian and Greek, with not so much success, alas. I think I particularly love modern Greek, though; surely because I’m very much in love with the country itself.
There’ve been many languages I disliked, for example Arabic, which I found harsh, and Turkish. But what can I say? Went to Arabic countries and to Turkey, listened to people talk, bought music CDs and came to love both of them. So today, it’s only the Asian languages I don’t like that much. But not because I don’t like how they sound; only because I know they’re too difficult to learn for someone as old as I ;-)
I could not agree with the above. Reading encourages thinking and ultimately chatting. Weighing and considering is for problem solving.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumalan monica
My favourite language out of those I've attempted was Italian. It's a pretty language, but it's easier to make out the words than French. Like German, the spelling is regular with few inconsistencies. It's a pity not more countries speak it. With apologies to Kiki, my least favourite language was Dutch. It sounds very guttural. There are too many z's in it. The best thing about it is that the grammar is relatively simple.
The languages I prefer the most are French and English, though I'm not a native speaker in neither of them. I'd even say I would choose these languages above Dutch, my native language, which also means I rather read in French and English than in Dutch. This goes for any text, whether it's a huge novel or just a tiny paragraph in the newspaper
I don't have any least favourites, but English is my most favourite.
My favourites have to be English, which is my second language, and Bahasa Malaysia, which is my native tongue.
I have to admit, I hated Latin at school. One of our teachers told us that learning Latin would be very helpful with our study of English and other modern languages. The problem with Latin is the grammar is so much harder than languages like French. It does not use pronouns. You have to work it all out by the word endings. If you don't keep on top of the word endings then you're lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugwump101
These days I am fascinated with Hindi/Urdu (Bollywood movies are getting very good!), plus in descending order Pali, Sanskrit, Persian, Arabic, Bengali. Unfortunately, I don't know any of these languages, and trying to start learning at a snail pace, so slow that I probably loses what I learnt faster than the rate I pick new things up.
Isn't there a large minority of Swedish living in Finland? But indeed, Finnish is not a Scandinavian language. It belongs to one group with Hungarian, but allegedly those two can't understand each other either (not surprising, seeing as they are so far away from each other and have probably developed on their own for most of the time). What we were probably thinking of was Danish and Swedish which are so similar that the two can just talk to each other. Danish people also crop up in Swedish dramas without being subtitled (such as Wallander). I'm not sure whether Norwegian is similar or understandable, although Sweden and Norway were one kingdom for a long time (but that's saying nothing, I mean, look at Hungarian and German...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Annamariah
Dutch, my MT, is my least favourite language, because in its standard form you can't express anything because of fashion issues. Basically anything is outdated or inadequate.
English, French and German are on a pretty equal level in terms of favoritism, although I know far better English than I do French. My understanding of German is pretty similar to English, but not my active output. French is down the list, although I like its style, it's different to either one of the former two.
I would like to learn more Russian. Seems interesting and different altogether, but sadly the time is lacking due to having a freelance translation business. :(