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Originally Posted by Ancestor

I feel that you are a bit upset with some of the things said on this thread....
Spiritualist is a diffent type of Chirstain faith and also is misunderstood by many. I felt welcome to learn about Christians faith when you opened this thread and I am learning a lot from. Just do not get upset but allow people to open up their beings to you and others. Sorry I think I am being too pushy and lecturing where I should not. I just wanted you to know it is so nice to read others ideals it adds to my own spiritual growth. :)

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I concur wholeheartedly with your comments Ancestor. You are entirely correct and not being too pushy. Judge not lest ye be judged.

I believe that being a Christian is more about deeds than words. A lead by example type of faith. When I perform acts of charity the response of those persons is so honest. Their blessings are heartfelt. I'm talking about those in need, the ones most of our society ignores because of their status. All of the preaching in the world amounts to is communication. Can one not communicate by deeds.

I have a friend that is a christian that is afraid of everything. She always feels bad about passing a person asking for money, because she looks the other way and offers not even a kind word. She also believes I in saying prayers all of the time. "Hail Mary full of grace. Help me find a parking place."
I had to laugh at that one.

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Originally Posted by Adelheid

Is Christ the head of your life? This is a Christian thread. It's all about CHRIST and not us. CHRIST- I Am Nothing. (CHRISTIAN)

Is He the head of your life? The first thought in all that you do ? Do you acknowledge Him in all that you do? Seek His direction for your plans and life? That is a short challenge I leave with you, fellow Christians.

Are you conducting your life in obedience to him- not merely on this website but even in your lives? His ultimate command: Go INTO the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Are you obeying? Or are you reasoning with yourself that it is not for you? Are you a believer and a follower of Jesus? If so, all the 49 commands that Christ gave is directed to you. Are you following them?

Can it be said of you, "well done, good and faithful servant." Are you faithful in the little things that God gave you to do? :nod:

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OK. I realize that this interjection may not be well received, but believe me when I say that I do nothing out of spite or intent to injure anyone. I have tried to maintain my own Christian faith while listening to others tell me how they believe. Two pieces of scripture come to mind quickly. Luke 9:50 "And Jesus said unto to him, forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us, is for us." and Romans 14:4 "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? To his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand." Not everyone will agree with you on everything, Adelheid. But I think it safe to say that most of us agree more than we disgree. And the fact is, we're not yet in the sweet by and by. This is the nasty now and now. I'm very happy that you seem to have a great deal of support in your Christian walk. Some of us are not as fortunate. Circumstances dictate that we must struggle on our own. But the promise is not to the one that starts the race, but to him that overcometh. So like Paul, I glory in my weakness, for when I am weak, then He is strong. May God richly bless you and The Peace That Passes Understanding be with you always!http://www.websmileys.com/sm/angels/teu25.gif

Thanks, Pendragon.

I understand that, and it was because of that fact that people are weak and need support that I set up this thread. The original intent was to edify others and not to discuss about Christianity. One can do that on almost any other thread. But edifying other is important, for as you say, not everyone is strong, and we all need the support and encouragement of friends to help us along the tough and lonely journey.

I didn't mean to preach but to challenge others to deepen their faith. Those who may not be so blessed as I to receive all this knowledge. I who have been blessed will have to give account of all my "talents" and my blessings. I can only share them with those less fortunate than I, who have not all the benefits I may have from all this knowledge and instruction.

Circumstances may dictate that you struggle on your own, but Jesus says that He is with us always. Thus we don't have to struggle onward on our own strength, but fully trust and rely upon Him. For as you so rightly put it, It is when I am weak that He is strong. It is when I need Him most that He is there.

Thanks for your reply, though. :nod:

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Originally Posted by Adelheid

Thanks, Pendragon.

I understand that, and it was because of that fact that people are weak and need support that I set up this thread. The original intent was to edify others and not to discuss about Christianity. One can do that on almost any other thread. But edifying other is important, for as you say, not everyone is strong, and we all need the support and encouragement of friends to help us along the tough and lonely journey.

I didn't mean to preach but to challenge others to deepen their faith. Those who may not be so blessed as I to receive all this knowledge. I who have been blessed will have to give account of all my "talents" and my blessings. I can only share them with those less fortunate than I, who have not all the benefits I may have from all this knowledge and instruction.

Circumstances may dictate that you struggle on your own, but Jesus says that He is with us always. Thus we don't have to struggle onward on our own strength, but fully trust and rely upon Him. For as you so rightly put it, It is when I am weak that He is strong. It is when I need Him most that He is there.

Thanks for your reply, though. :nod:

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Now, see, the Adelheid that I knew was there comes shining through in this post. Encouraging others through the knowledge given unto you. Paul says "Woe is unto me if I prech not the Gospel of Christ." But do everything with consideration for others. Yes, I know I am never alone. A great man of God once said "You and God make a majority anywhere!" I worry so much about how others perceive Christians. We sometimes talk a good sermon, but do we SHOW a good sermon? The sermon we show goes much further with people than the one we preach. I know from experience. I've been an ordained non-denominational minister since 1981, and traveled as an evangelist until my disabling illness struck out of nowhere. Now there are days I can't even leave the house, but He never promised an easy road, He just said He'd go with me to the end. Take care, and God bless! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/angels/angel3.gif

I read a true story written by a bishop that might help us a little bit here. God says plainly that He is no respector of persons but the man of every nation that does His will is acceptable to Him.If any of you are parents you would notice that even if you expect each child to obey the rules he or she has his or her own unique way of honoring you and doing so and to force each one to act exactly like the other would be a violation of the freedom given each mortal when they enter this world.God gently invites each of us to come to him.
This is the story the bishop wrote. he was travelling by ship to do some work with other parishes and as the ship came within a couple of miles one hot starry evening to a small island there was a clamour and great commotion aboard among the passengers and crew.
There to their utter astonishment were three companions who had heard that a bishop would be aboard and wanted him to pray over them since there was no congregation of any sort on their little home.
The amazing thing is the three were clearly walking on the top of the ocean with their bare feet. people took pictures and stared down at the trio.
the bishop talked to them a bit and gleaning how totally ignorant they were about God and the bible was about to teach them as much as he could in a short space of time when he stopped. "Who do you say God is?" he enquired. The admitted they only knew one thing, something they had each heard in his spirit. "They are three and holy just as we are three." that was their answer. The bishop felt humbled and small as he contemplated how that one sentence had given the men the confidence to believe Him for anything, sure of His love. They walked upon water. The bishop shared nothing with them at that time but what they shared with him changed his life forever.

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" holy scripture.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

Now, see, the Adelheid that I knew was there comes shining through in this post. Encouraging others through the knowledge given unto you. Paul says "Woe is unto me if I prech not the Gospel of Christ." But do everything with consideration for others. Yes, I know I am never alone. A great man of God once said "You and God make a majority anywhere!" I worry so much about how others perceive Christians. We sometimes talk a good sermon, but do we SHOW a good sermon? The sermon we show goes much further with people than the one we preach. I know from experience. I've been an ordained non-denominational minister since 1981, and traveled as an evangelist until my disabling illness struck out of nowhere. Now there are days I can't even leave the house, but He never promised an easy road, He just said He'd go with me to the end. Take care, and God bless! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/angels/angel3.gif

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haha....lol. "the Adelheid that I knew was there" lol. Yeah well, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I don't think so though. But if I did, then I'm sorry, please forgive me. ;) But then, no one actually said anything before. :) Maybe it's only you who is offended. :D

If you have any encouraging comments, please feel free to say so. ;) This Sunday, the Pastor speaking at our Church was talking on the power of Encouragement. Everyone needs encouragement. It is vital to the Christian Walk too. So ..... *hint* :D

Anyway, God bless you! :nod:

dear Adelheid

you remind me of James the brother of John who were called the 'sons of thunder'. they wanted to call down fire from heaven upon those who did not stop immediately and listen and obey Jesus.
and yet after being with their Lord for three and a half years John and his brother, who was martyrd ( I always cry when I think of it) were so full of love that John became known as the apostle of love.
Our God says that the whole obligation of man is to get to know him. period. And Jesus said that we are to love Him with all our heart mind soul and strength and then to love others as ourselves.
So with this in mind we should never cease praying that the Holy Spirit touches the hearts of others. But in the end a walk with God is like a betrothal, a marriage, and y ou can't ram that down anyone's throat. God hates that. For the Bible says that He is the Lover of our souls. I cannot bear witinessing marriages or relationships where one is pounding the other on the head demanding to be loved and in this manner or that.
It is ugly and demeaning. Better would it be if each sought the advancement and joy of the other.
It is like that dear little story of the sun and the wind. The wind boasted he could make the man walking along the lonely road take off his coat before Mr Sun did.
He huffed and puffed and screeched andthe result was that the man shivering pulled his garment even tighter about him.Then the sun came along and gently and sweetly began to increase his warmth until the man flung off his coat.
I love your devotion to God. And I do understand your frustration with those that mock and belittle and make small the God of the universe. But you will only succeed in making yourself ill unless you realize that each person must take their own path and in the end accept Him or not. Just like any betrothal.
Bless you

Rachel

"But the greatest of these ...is Love." Holy Scripture

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Originally Posted by Adelheid

haha....lol. "the Adelheid that I knew was there" lol. Yeah well, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I don't think so though. But if I did, then I'm sorry, please forgive me. ;) But then, no one actually said anything before. :) Maybe it's only you who is offended. :D

If you have any encouraging comments, please feel free to say so.
Anyway, God bless you! :nod:

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I WAS trying to encourage you by letting you know that when you allow yourself to just let go of the fact that people are going to disagree with you, you come across as a very sweet, caring person, whose only desire is to share your Lord with others. I knew what you were trying to say all along, but with disbelievers, they need to know you care as well. I was not offended in the least. I still pray that God will bless and keep you. Have a wonderful day. :angel: The Joy of the Lord is my strength!

I agree with you there pendrago...I came accros some facts that people cared towards others not because they really cared, but they did it mainly for the sake of penetrating their beliefs...

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Originally Posted by B-Mental

I was raised Irish Roman Catholic, believe to an extent in JC, but I recognise the energy which exists in all natural materials. I would probably be most closely relate to the druids (Irish roots).

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Ok so this may not be too relevent withthe area it is being posted because i'm reading dated posts. I just had to let you know that energy in narural materials is part of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps i'm being naive but I thik you should gather a little more theology before you deny whatyou were raised with. E-mail me if you like, i don't wat to insult you but but i couldn't let you say that about my background and let it go past.
p.s. did you take that picture of the skelligs? its nice.

I can't imagine calling down thunder from heaven upon unbelievers, Rachel. :D (I like your name :nod:) I think that would be the last thing I would do, even if I got to a point where I am so frustrated, as I sometimes am with my brothers.

I don't usually write posts for the sake of writing and expounding my views, or even forcing my views on others. Indeed, that is the least thing I wish myself to do! No. When I do write, it is almost always out of the depths of my heart. I do not like seeing people so mislead by the great Deceiver. and besides, God Himself gave the command.

"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous [man], that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul." Ezekiel 3:18-21

I certainly do NOT wish having people's blood upon my head! And for certainty's sake, and for their sakes, as much as mine, I tell them- both the believer and the unbeliever. But if in doing so, I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry, and didn't mean to. But I hope that they see what I'm trying to point out, because it is true, and the Truth will last forever.

But thank you for sharing what you feel. It is great having other's imput. :nod:

And for Pendragon.... :D

Yeah, thanks too. I am very glad that you were not offended or anything. It is great having your imput too! God usually uses anyone who is willing to listen to Hm and obey Him to teach and edify others, and I'm so glad that you are one of them. :)

Thank you bothy Rachel and Pendragon for your blessings. :D I'm sure I will be blessed. :) May God bless you both in return, and abundantly! More than you can ever imagine! :wave:

Have a great day!

I adelheid!just got here....nothing I can say as of now.As i've said I'm always in a hurry but I'm thankful you've posted this thread,I'm a CHRISTIAN and that makes the whole purpose of life.Living as the way God wants us to be.With a purpose actually.God Bless us all!!!

sweet adeheid

you remind me so much of Travis, my first born. I honestly honestly do understand your point of view, i have felt what you have felt to the point of despair. and when i lifted it to God He showed me a pool with all manner of fish in it and showed me there are as many ways of catching the fish as there are fish. and that is what we are to be, fishers of men.
once we do our part, the Holy Spirit will do great things and give the person we are in agony about a heart of flesh instead of a heart of stone. I was just trying in my clumsy way to show you that no matter how deceived,how rude, ignorant and all the rest someone might be God can do anything. our chief duty in life, as Holy Scripture says is to get to know God. And Jesus our Lord and Saviour of this world, said ' a new commandment I give you, that you must love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and soul and your neighbor as yourself.'
it is amazing how when you show love to the most antagonistic hateful person that you in the flesh would rather smack God will use that to break down their defences so that in turn they will not tune Him out but listen and fall in love with Him unless they have it in their heart to hate Him.
so forgive me if I didn't seem understanding. it was because i so relate to you that i said what i said.
and thankyou it is my real name.
couldn't think of anything jazzy like the rest of you.

"I trust that age doth not wither nor custom stale my infinite variety" said he and I recognized in his voice the joy and pride with which the artist takes in his own creation. sherlock holmes to watson-adventure of the empty house

Ah... now I get what you mean!

Yes, it is true. Everything is all about our relationship with the Lord, and our obedience to His commandments. Nothing else will matter in the end. When we get to heaven, He is not going to ask about the amount of wealth we accumulated or the number of people we saved, etc. He will require from each of us an account of what we did with His Son Jesus (whether we accepted Him or not), what we did with what God gave to us, and whether we followed His 49 commandments.

I see what you are trying to get. :) Thanks fo telling me. God has been showing me the same thing too. It is not so much the people we save and all, but it is our personal walk with the Lord. The people we 'save' won't matter in heaven anymore. In heaven, I think our entire focus will be upon God. :nod:

Thanks, and I'm glad that you used your real name. It is a lovely name. :nod:

God bless you! :wave:

I don't mean to sound ignorant... but would you mind helping me by letting me know where the 49 commandments came from? I'm not asking you to site them... just wondering what you mean by them... are they ones sited throughout the books of the law, or ... I can't think of any other source than that.... but do you have them listed somewhere or something?
I believe Matthew 22:37-39: Jesus replied "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second one is like it: "Love your neighbor as yourself" All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. Isn't that enough?