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11-28-2011, 09:39 AM
MarkBastable

I would never have got that.

Because I've got to get back to work, can I be a bit presumptuous and post the new one....?

It's your basic group-by-connection thing, except that you need to find three groups of four and one group of three.

Then you post only the one-word connection for the group of three.

Once I've said it's right, that'll give other people a chance to figure out what the other groups must be.

<change made to list Wednesday morning - see subsequent angsty post - 'cousin' replaces 'free'>

iron, cage, early, cousin,
music, source, year, mile,
ignorant, brain, relief, pen,
entertainment, Latin, song
11-28-2011, 02:22 PM
prendrelemick

Yup Mary Sue is right... but I didn't know she looked like that.

In fact I think it was one of juniperwolf's post where I first heard it.
11-28-2011, 04:01 PM
kasie

Sorry, Mark, I failed to see your post-script.
11-29-2011, 03:16 AM
prendrelemick

Well, shall I start (fingers crossed in case I've misunderstood)

Pig.
11-29-2011, 04:24 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasie

Sorry, Mark, I failed to see your post-script.

I should jolly well hope you are sorry. It was an unforgiveable lapse from the standards I've come to expect. You've let yourself down very badly - perhaps irrevocably. I'm afraid that I think much less of you because of this incident and, frankly, I'm not sure there's any way for you to recover your former position in the echelons of my esteem. I'm not angry - I'm just very, very disappointed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Well, shall I start (fingers crossed in case I've misunderstood)

Pig.

No, 'fraid not.
11-29-2011, 04:47 AM
billl

HOLD ON, correcting

Hmmm, oops...

This is pretty technical, but my candidate for the group of three can actually be a group of four, if we include vocab for gas fixtures.
11-29-2011, 05:20 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by billl

HOLD ON, correcting

Hmmm, oops...

This is pretty technical, but my candidate for the group of three can actually be a group of four, if we include vocab for gas fixtures.

Don't fish, boy! Don't mumble! If you have an answer, spit it out! Otherwise sit down and let one of your fellow reptiles have a shot at it.
11-29-2011, 05:47 AM
JuniperWoolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Yup Mary Sue is right... but I didn't know she looked like that.

There are a lot of different Mary Sues. Here's another:

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpp3168...ght-poster.jpg
11-29-2011, 05:56 AM
billl

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkBastable

Don't fish, boy! Don't mumble! If you have an answer, spit it out! Otherwise sit down and let one of your fellow reptiles have a shot at it.

Yeah, I know--but if I'm wrong, I'm maybe just handing out one of the groups of four. I don't know if that'd be screwing up the game, cowardly, audacious, the way the cookie crumbles, rakishly reckless, or what... But I felt reluctant.

"Pop"
11-29-2011, 06:17 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by billl

Yeah, I know--but if I'm wrong, I'm maybe just handing out one of the groups of four. I don't know if that'd be screwing up the game, cowardly, audacious, the way the cookie crumbles, rakishly reckless, or what... But I felt reluctant.

"Pop"

I think it's okay if you hit one of the groups of four, because it all adds to the general momentum, and anyway I'm not going to say whether or not what you say is one of them, so it might be that you're leading everyone astray. That's what I like about this way of doing it - it introduces more interference and permits more people to have a go. It's not just wham-bam.

So, anyway - to get to your suggestion that 'pop' might be the connector for the group of three....

No.
11-29-2011, 06:42 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpp3168...ght-poster.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPRU...eature=related
11-29-2011, 06:44 AM
JuniperWoolf

"Age?"
11-29-2011, 06:44 AM
MarkBastable

Nope, not 'age'.
11-29-2011, 07:20 AM
kasie

[QUOTE=MarkBastable;1093470]I should jolly well hope you are sorry. It was an unforgiveable lapse from the standards I've come to expect. You've let yourself down very badly - perhaps irrevocably. I'm afraid that I think much of less you because of this incident and, frankly, I'm not sure there's any way for you to recover your former position in the echelons of my esteem. I'm not angry - I'm just very, very disappointed......[QUOTE]

Tough.

(Mark, you forget I used to be a teacher - I can do that sort of reprimand without blinking an eye. You should hear my Joyce Grenfell - 'Mark.... don't do that.....')
11-29-2011, 07:34 AM
MarkBastable

You'd think someone would revive the comic character monologue with a modern twist, wouldn't you? I suppose the closest we've had in recent years is Victoria Wood.
11-29-2011, 02:06 PM
prendrelemick

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkBastable

I should jolly well hope you are sorry. It was an unforgiveable lapse from the standards I've come to expect. You've let yourself down very badly - perhaps irrevocably. I'm afraid that I think much less of you because of this incident and, frankly, I'm not sure there's any way for you to recover your former position in the echelons of my esteem. I'm not angry - I'm just very, very disappointed.

No, 'fraid not.

Thank goodness, some of the links for the other groups I had were looking a bit tenuous. I shall start again.
11-29-2011, 10:26 PM
JuniperWoolf

I'm thinking "bird." (free)bird, bird(of song), bird(cage).

Oi Mick, I've been wondering all night, how'd you get "pig?" I can only find two, being pig(latin) and pig(pen).
11-30-2011, 12:07 AM
billl

Two things:

1) In the previous post, Juniper is suggesting "bird" as a possibility. I'm wondering, though, does it matter if bird comes before or after the words in its group? I mean, can some be before, and some after? (and I'll add "early" and "cage" as other candidates to match with "bird", which I'm sure impresses everyone).

2) Is "Liturgical" what we're looking for?
11-30-2011, 12:11 AM
JuniperWoolf

****, I missed (early)bird. Looks like it's more likely to be one of the groups of four.
11-30-2011, 12:57 AM
billl

Oh, I accidentally repeated your mention of "cage"--I meant to add "brain" to the possible group members...

So we have the bird-comes-first candidates: cage, brain
and then the bird-comes-after candidates: early, song, free

It's a category that might very well be a red herring. Or it could be a group of three or four.
11-30-2011, 12:59 AM
JuniperWoolf

Ah, bird brain! Of course! It's a bit ironic that I didn't pick up on that.
11-30-2011, 01:43 AM
MarkBastable

You're supposed only to post the proposed connector, not the group itself. But what the hell.

Bird is not a group-of-three connection.

Neither's liturgical.
11-30-2011, 02:20 AM
prendrelemick

I have 2 groups of 5 at the moment.
11-30-2011, 02:23 AM
prendrelemick

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

I'm thinking "bird." (free)bird, bird(of song), bird(cage).

Oi Mick, I've been wondering all night, how'd you get "pig?" I can only find two, being pig(latin) and pig(pen).

Seeing it was wrong I can reveal- Pig pen, Pig iron, and Pig ignorant I had never heard of Pig Latin.
11-30-2011, 02:32 AM
MarkBastable

See, the problem I always have with setting problems here is that if they're solved quickly I think, "Damn, shouldn't have made it so easy", and if they take a while I think, "Damn, the problem is probably badly set up."

The conversation at the moment is making think that 'free' was a bad clue - not attached sufficiently strongly to the word it's supposed to go with. So I'm going to make a small change to the problem....

Substitute 'cousin' for 'free'.....
11-30-2011, 02:41 AM
billl

This puzzle is firing on all cylinders. People are trying, for God's sake. If we each come up with three groups of five, and they're all different, imagine the fun we'll have paring them down together.

EDIT: "Liturgical" is out of the question, I guess?
11-30-2011, 02:48 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by billl

This puzzle is firing on all cylinders. People are trying, for God's sake. If we each come up with three groups of five, and they're all different, imagine the fun we'll have paring them down together.

EDIT: "Liturgical" is out of the question, I guess?

Yeah. Should have said that. Have edited prior post to do so.
11-30-2011, 08:47 AM
JuniperWoolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by prendrelemick

I had never heard of Pig Latin.

Evernay eardhay ofhay igpay atinlay? Aybemay stihay nahay ericanamay ingthay.
11-30-2011, 09:09 AM
MarkBastable

Here's a little side question, the answer to which I haven't verified but which sounds true. (In other words, I'd like it to be.)

Only one fully-functional spoken language was invented in the twentieth century. What was it? (And it's not Esperanto.)
11-30-2011, 10:50 AM
billl

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkBastable

Here's a little side question, the answer to which I haven't verified but which sounds true. (In other words, I'd like it to be.)

Only one fully-functional spoken language was invented in the twentieth century. What was it? (And it's not Esperanto.)

gotta be Klingon, right?

To be, or not to be...
11-30-2011, 12:40 PM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by billl

gotta be Klingon, right?

To be, or not to be...

Yeah - isn't that brilliant?
11-30-2011, 03:00 PM
Link

What the ****
11-30-2011, 03:03 PM
billl

I saw a dictionary on sale recently--no way am I going to learn the language, but I still think I should've picked it up, oh well.
11-30-2011, 06:57 PM
billl

Two Things:

1) I'm still wondering if there's a rule about word position. For example, could "bird" form a group including both "bird brain" and "early bird"?

2) Is "Country" responsible for the group of three?
12-01-2011, 08:24 AM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by billl

Two Things:

1) I'm still wondering if there's a rule about word position. For example, could "bird" form a group including both "bird brain" and "early bird"?

2) Is "Country" responsible for the group of three?

Yes.

And yes. (Smattering of applause.)

So - if 'country' is the group of three connector, what are the other three connectors for the groups of four?
12-01-2011, 03:27 PM
prendrelemick

Ok. Billl has "country."

everybody has " bird "

so can I suggest "Light" for the next group.
12-01-2011, 04:05 PM
MarkBastable

Quote:

Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Ok. Billl has "country."

everybody has " bird "

so can I suggest "Light" for the next group.

Yep...
12-01-2011, 06:07 PM
prendrelemick

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

Evernay eardhay ofhay igpay atinlay? Aybemay stihay nahay ericanamay ingthay.

agI hagavage hageagard agof vagulgagar Lagatagin.
12-01-2011, 06:15 PM
MarkBastable

So to sum up...

Pig - iron, ignorant, pen, Latin,

Bird - cage, early, brain, song

Light - year, source, relief, entertainment,

Country - cousin, mile, music

I had it as 'birdsong' - but i guess 'song bird' will do.

Anyway, bill got 'country' so he's next up. Thanks to all for playing.
12-01-2011, 09:33 PM
billl

OK, I'm on the case. (For me, "pig" was the more impressive discovery/puzzle-piece, though.)

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