Evolution vs. Creation

Hey Loki, I am a geologist, and I totally concur with your diagram. The interesting thing is the abundant life that we as humans consider lesser forms (about 95% of your diagram). The evidence of evolution is just overwhelming. Creation is a rationalism of earlier times. When the Book of Genesis was written 7000 years represented an almost inconceivable amount of time.

I'll say one thing, Loki, mon ami. I am told that to belive that God created everything takes a lot of faith. Perhaps this is so. But for me, to believe in the events recorded on your very carefully drawn out chart takes even more faith... :nod:

I once read that it's "easier" to believe that a creator exist and created the whole universe, than to believe the whole process of evolution...

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

I'll say one thing, Loki, mon ami. I am told that to belive that God created everything takes a lot of faith. Perhaps this is so. But for me, to believe in the events recorded on your very carefully drawn out chart takes even more faith... :nod:

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Well, logically everything must have a beggining, and the best explenation is a divine being. something must have started it all.

Loki, How do you know that that chart is true? Evolution is not even a law. It's a theory. I'm even inclined to say it's only a hypothesis, not all of nature agrees with the facts that Evolution claims.

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Originally Posted by IWilKikU

ISo it's not that I "Don't know what to think" as the poll suggests, but that I merely havn't decided yet. In anycase I don't believe in biblical creation, but evolution in the sense that we went from fish to lizards to ... etc... until we became humans (I apologize for my increadibly ignorant and superficial analysis of evolution ;)) still seems a bit suspicious to me. perhaps in a couple years when I'm a bit more stable in my beliefs I'll dig this thread up and post a reply.

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i also vote for"Don't know what to think", and my reason is just the same as yours: "havn't decided yet"
my entire knowledge of biology is based on evolution, that's what i was taught to accept. i just took it for granted until i entered college and took a course called western culture. i was extremely interested in the whole "vs" thing and devoured five books on this topic. they shaked my strong hold in evolution, but the whole"God created everyting" concept still seems a bit suspicious to me. so i ended up having no idea which theory to take.
and i also think that creation and evolution are not in sharp contrast.

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Originally Posted by pea

i also vote for"Don't know what to think", and my reason is just the same as yours: "havn't decided yet"
my entire knowledge of biology is based on evolution, that's what i was taught to accept. i just took it for granted until i entered college and took a course called western culture. i was extremely interested in the whole "vs" thing and devoured five books on this topic. they shaked my strong hold in evolution, but the whole"God created everyting" concept still seems a bit suspicious to me. so i ended up having no idea which theory to take.
and i also think that creation and evolution are not in sharp contrast.

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well, everything needs a beggining right, so what else could have started it all except for God?

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw

well, everything needs a beggining right, so what else could have started it all except for God?

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I am not questioning whether or not God created it, but I believe in evolution. The question is 'was everything (including humanity) created by the Almighty in seven days, or did the species Homo sapiens sapiens evolve from slight mutations?'

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Originally Posted by Adelheid

Loki, How do you know that that chart is true? Evolution is not even a law. It's a theory. I'm even inclined to say it's only a hypothesis, not all of nature agrees with the facts that Evolution claims.

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Please grant me a couple of these mysterious portions of nature. Better yet offer me one piece of evidence for creation. Just one, without any holes, can you?

Well God created the earth and everything on it but used evolution as the way of creating new species....

thats what i believe

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Originally Posted by B-Mental

Hey Loki, I am a geologist, and I totally concur with your diagram. The interesting thing is the abundant life that we as humans consider lesser forms (about 95% of your diagram). The evidence of evolution is just overwhelming. Creation is a rationalism of earlier times. When the Book of Genesis was written 7000 years represented an almost inconceivable amount of time.

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I think the reason people(humans) consider themselves superior in nature to all other species is because of their superior ability to reason which is considered as a Divine gift by some.
On their considering 7000 years representing an almost inconcievable amount of time I must agree,it is.Which is a minute number compared to the number of coincidences required in the evolution theory.

Wasn't it Socrates that was wise because he knew he didn't know...Hmm?

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Originally Posted by B-Mental

I am not questioning whether or not God created it, but I believe in evolution. The question is 'was everything (including humanity) created by the Almighty in seven days, or did the species Homo Sapiens sapiens evolve from slight mutations?'

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well if you follow thge steps of creation, they do follow the same steps as evolution. Maybe Genesis is a metaphor/parrable explaining evolution as it would be explained to someone who could grasp this concept...ie, early man.

I have noticed some similarities, and they tend to follow similar successions. I totally agree. I guess I just wonder what it is that creationists accept. Is there a fear in evolving? Do they accept some science and not others? How do they justify using science based technology, and then cast doubt on certain fields? Fields with vast volumes supporting evidence of evolution.

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Originally Posted by B-Mental

I have noticed some similarities, and they tend to follow similar successions. I totally agree. I guess I just wonder what it is that creationists accept. Is there a fear in evolving? Do they accept some science and not others? How do they justify using science based technology, and then cast doubt on certain fields? Fields with vast volumes supporting evidence of evolution.

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well, it all depends on the group eh. Well, some people are very stuborn, or are stuck on a superiority complex, me I am always open to something new...unless it is completely stupid. ;)

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