Mark, that one has six rows?
10 with a five-sided star?
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Mark, that one has six rows?
10 with a five-sided star?
That's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
Yeah, you're right.
I envisaged a Star of David (first message).
Drew a five-pointed star and counted the nodes (second message)
Then Googled 'Star of David' and linked it (third message).
My excuse is that I was distracted by Steve Jobs buggering up my iPhone with an update from beyond the grave.
God, I hate Apple. If my company didn't insist on me using an iPhone, I'd toss this thing out of the window,
Have to admit, I was considering a triangle (after my initial pentagol failed) until Mark's post.
A quick one:
You are on your way to the market with some gold coins in your pocket; however, you need to cross nine bridges before you reach your destination and there is a troll sitting under each bridge... They greedily ask for half of each passer's coin possession but, being somewhat good-hearted trolls still, they return one coin back.
How many coins do you need to have at the beginning of your journey so that you are left with at least two coins when you arrive at the market?
PS: No word games. Straight forward maths.
While my phone is in triage, I'll think about this in print.
So, in order to have two after the ninth bridge, you have to have three after the eighth bridge, because the troll will take....hang on...how's he going to take half of three?
So you have to have four. He takes two, gives one back, so you've got three after the ninth bridge, which fulfils the 'at least two' requirement.
To have four after the eighth bridge, you have to have six after the seventh bridge, because the troll will take three and give you one back.
To have six after the seventh bridge, you have to have ten after the sixth bridge, because the troll will take five and give you one back.
So - 18 after the fifth.
Okay, now i've either got to actually work it out, or - which would be much more fun - come up with a formula that works for any number of bridges.
Essentially, the number of coins you need for any bridge is 2 to the power of the number of the bridge (taking the last as bridge 0, and the penultimate bridge as bridge 1), plus two more coins.
I think.
That would mean it's (two to the power of eight) plus two.
So I think it's 258. It would be cowardly of me now to actually work out whether I'm right by going through the bridges one by one.
Well I thought the trick is how u read it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by billl
But, Bill when u said in the hint " five rows and four trees each " that confused ! Coz there is no EACH mentioned in the puzzle words when u read it !
Good one ... And good job Mark & Scher :)
It's true there's lots of puzzles like this that have a trick reading--it might've been better if I had put "each" in both places (I almost left it out entirely, glad I thought to put it in...!)Quote:
Originally Posted by hoope
Perhaps you have to have 2 coins at the last bridge. He takes one and gives you one back. (A bit like VAT. ) In fact if that's right, you only need two coins when you set out, as each troll will take one and give you one back. Remember Trolls are fiscally inept.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
HA!
Just like old times.
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Originally Posted by prendrelemick
Oh, *^$£*.
If that's a cryptogram, it looks like you've chosen an out-of-the-ordinary obscenity.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
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Originally Posted by billl
Ah, yes - the choice of an out-of-the-ordinary obscenity. <sigh> That takes me back.
Hang on a mo' the Great One hasn't pronounced yet. She did say it was a pure maths - no word play - question.
Nah - there was no word play. I just fell for it. In fact, you can see me falling for it, at the point where I say 'hang on'.Quote:
Originally Posted by prendrelemick
Right then, re-arrange the following into 4 groups of 4 connected words.
anvil, largo, prime, triangle,
tympanum, piano, irrational, altering,
grave, relating, cube, intergral,
presto, hammer, square , stirrup.
Yes, I have been watching 'Only Connect' on telly, to play it properly you have to do it in three minutes!
1 / triangle , cube , square
2 / piano , tympano , largo
3/ hammer, anvil , ( maybe grave is here ) :P
4/ altering , relating , irrational
stirrup .. maybe in 3...
aaaaah i got lost.. someone fill the blanks :)
45 seconds...
Ear – anvil, stirrup, hammer, tympanum
Key – largo, piano
Number – irrational, prime,
I can declare the ear group correct and complete.
Cube, square, irrational, prime are numbers
Presto and largo are tempo markings, and piano and triangle are percussion instruments. Would all fit together under "music"?
Ear – anvil, stirrup, hammer, tympanum
music – largo, piano, presto, grave
number – irrational, prime, square, integral
?? - Altering, triangle, relating, cube
258 wouldn't work because you'll have 3 left at the last bridge. They don't know fractions and you must have only two for the market. A problem for both. I go with two coins to start. No word play, since everything's specified. They must give you one back no matter how much they can take.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBastable
cafolini, good work, but Mick already solved it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cafolini
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Originally Posted by MarkBastable
thats so close.
you need to find the connection for the last group then you'll see where you err.
"Integral," "altering," "triangle," and "relating" are all anagrams of each other. (Which puts "cube" under numbers. And the musical terms are three tempos and a volume?)
Hmm, noted for future Scrabble use.
Actually, they're different arrangements.
Ear, music, number, arrangement?
J
That's that sorted then,
I shall have to declare Mark the winner, for getting two groups - with special mention to Calidore for the number group and Robinhood3000 for spotting the anagrams or (thankyou Jack) the arrangements.
The trick is to let Mark think he's won every time because these things are hard to come up with.
J
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Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts
Oh, cheers.
...Four groups of four.
mouse rod
float sprat
line jumping
yard metre
warden foot
fly service
steeple cast
stress frost
Well, honorable mention is certainly better than no mention at all. Gotta give props to Robinhood3000 for spotting the anagrams also.
So lessee:
Yard, metre, rod, foot are units of measure.
Line, fly, cast could refer to fishing (as could rod, but I think that's a red herring) (HA!)
Sprat is a type of fish, so it could go above, but it could also join with mouse and fly as animals. Or it could go with service, steeple, and stress as "s" words.
Church: mouse warden yard service.
Jack: frost jumping sprat steeple.
Fishing: float cast rod fly.
Poetry: stress metre line foot
Rats. I was hoping it would take longer than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by prendrelemick
Did take the mick get it? What's the connecting theme for the categories?
J
There isn't one. There never is. Mick didn't have one really - though you cleverly gave him a pun that made it look as though there was one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts
Yes. 'Cleverly.'
Hiding all this genius for now. Will blindside you all when you least expect it.
J
While I'm working on a fiendish maths problem (not ready) Here is a quick something for our American cousins.
That afternoon the order came through to fill more pots of salmon roe. Ha! Yes boys! the fancy ones, topped off with one of Jack's onion sculptures, each one a work of art (hurriedly drawn) .
We took them by bus, half way across town, down to the pier. Celebrations are our business.
Who was at the party, and how are they connected.
So far, I've got Taft, Monroe and Jackson - would the link be Presidents?
Knowing Mick, there are probably twenty more names in there somewhere. I'm not well up in Presidents so I'll let someone else find them. :smile5:
I won't tell you how many just yet.
I have visions of people checking for a President Fancyones or Doffwit.
Fillmore, Hayes, Bush, Pierce - thank you, Wiki! Now I really must go and do something useful....
Before you do that Kasie, you need to think of another puzzle. You've gone and got 'em all.
Ah. Yes. Thought there would be more - sorry, folks.
Ok - here goes, an easy-peasy one for a change: all these are 'double' words (I expect there is a correct grammatical term but I can't think of it off-hand). Some have hyphens, some don't; some rhyme, some don't; some are assonances (rhymes gone wrong, as Rita put it).
1 A crooked mile. (3-3)
2 Worn on the beach. (4-4)
3 Simply the best (3-3)
4 Australian Sun Code (4,4,4)
5 What a mix-up (4-4)
6 Weak and watery (5-5)
7 Whether he wants to or not. (5-5)
8 Basics (5-5)
9 Ornament. (5-5 or 10)
10 Common lot. (3, 6)
11 Posh lot. (5-5)
12 Gossip (4-4)
13 Dance (3,3,3)
14 Wear it to dance (but not the one above!) (2,2 or 4)
15 Raindrops keep falling on my head. (6,6)
16 Dither. (6-6)
17 Puddin'n'pie. (4,4)
18 Select address. (4,4)
19 Falling over each other.... (4,4)
20 ...at high speed (6-6)
21 Native to Madagasgar (3-3)
22 I will conform to wishes immediately, Captain. (2,2 or 3,3)
23 Simply the best. (3,4-5)