Can you tell me the mechanism you used to determine this information? Your response doesn't give me any clues to a method being used.
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Can you tell me the mechanism you used to determine this information? Your response doesn't give me any clues to a method being used.
Well, that is a good question and I am not sure I really can answer because I feel it. Do you know what a emapthic person is? I get the feeling you may not believe this line of thinking or the fact I have a ability that feels other peoples emotions, illness, and spiritual energy. I did not use a mechanism because there are not any that I am aware of that can determine my ability is true. I am sorry for being so terrible at explaining this but it is hard because I get this feeling and words form in head and then come true. I am sound like a crazy woman and a arrogant one but I just know. I can touch a check and even know if it is forged or not. It just happens to me and I have always known which kid would die before graduation day. Makes me a bit morbid I do apologize. The method I can say a paranormal method.Quote:
Originally Posted by atiguhya padma
Mad? No. Just out to make a point. Sometimes I don't know my own power of persuasion. :) I thought for a while I had brought this discussion to a screeching halt, which was not my intention. I was beginning to enjoy the intellectual exercise. It's not easy when you at least TRY to see the other man's POV. If I come across as harsh, I'm just being emphatic in what I believe. Thanks for the thumbs up! Dragon out!Quote:
Originally Posted by tiny explorer
Actually, I've read this whole post, beginning to end. That's why I came along. But AFTER I came along, I thought people who espoused Creationism thought me crazy, thus my last post. It's good to know at least SOME of you don't. I'm used to it by now, since I can't help being the Great Questioner, but it's because of those questions and a quest to find the truth that solidified my faith in God and the Bible. And before anyone asks, no, I don't have all the answers, nor do I ever expect to in this world. Dragon out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adelheid
Thought I'd throw this article out there, since it's rather interesting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/sc...30profile.html
The wonders of public education has more problems than just evolution and creationism...
"One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century."
You've got to be kidding me, oh eccentric one! Even the "Great Questioner" doesn't question that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyrwen
Well, the church was very hostile to this one too when it first popped up, I seem to remember.
Indeed. Even the texts pointed to a flat earth and the universe revolving around us. It's not all that surprising that some would choose to follow such an ancient belief when the ego is still inside all of us to think the same way.
Considering most folks in the US can't point out any country but Canada, Mexico and maybe "europe" (even though it's a continent) on a map, this sort of thing is par for the course.
Offtopic, we know, but:
This is some kind of joke, yes?Quote:
Considering most folks in the US can't point out any country but Canada, Mexico and maybe "europe" (even though it's a continent) on a map, this sort of thing is par for the course.
We mean - majority? Well, this could be true for one person in, say 10000 (not counting very young kids) but, most folks? We don't buy it.
Okay, so maybe "most" was the wrong word, but it's still too high for all the education we have.
"A recent National Geographic survey found that only one in seven Americans aged between 18 and 24 could find Iraq or Iran on a map. While 58 percent knew about Afghanistan, only 17 percent could find it on a world map.
When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the U.S., 89 percent could locate California and Texas, but only 51 percent could find New York. On a world map, Americans could only find seven of 16 countries in the quiz. Eleven percent couldn't even find the U.S. on the map, and 29 percent couldn't find the Pacific Ocean. "
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Buy whatever you want, the facts are pretty stupefying.
I am too feeble minded to grasp the origins of everything, whether god created man, revolution "made" man, I guess the reason I "belive" in evolution is because there is no better thing for me to believe in.
Our living world can be mostly explained by science, science is from logical reason, therefore my logic is that, if not religion, then it must be evolution, until someone comes up with something else that is more logically persuasive then those above.
In term of logic, creationism is absolutely laughble, I remember once when I went to a church gathering, a relgious person "tried" to somehow convince me (a logician) to believe that creationism makes more logical sense, I laughed in his face. There was another incident, when I was in a christian Chinese gathering, I heard people say that:"god made people from himself". I laughed very hard afterwards, well, then why is he white? What should he be a mix of black asian and white? he can't be a mixture, because we are not alike, in term of logic, this simply makes no sense, so my mind easily abandoned Creationism.
In term of evolution, it was also troubling, because it doesn't explain the 'origin', it says that we evolve through natural selection, fine, we came from chimps, chimps came from smaller mammels, etc. until we say that life emerged as a single cell organism, well, where did that come from, can DNA be engineered ingorganicly? The same problem apply for theoritical physics, I asked my friend once: "what's outside of the universe?" He laughed at me saying:"THere is nothing out of the universe, hence the term UNIVERSE". But, since universe was once created, there must be something outside of the universe, right? and I am at where I started, and there is no point going any further, because we will arrive at the same conclusion anyways, my conclusion is that my brain is to feeble, to grasp the truth.
Why do I believe in Origin of species? Not becasue I believe it's true, because I know it's true, I think people ought to separate Science with religion, the two are like water and fire, they are not meant to be combined, they are much more efficent when separated.
-E. Brume
HASTY GENERALIZATIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Dyrwen
This is a fallacious argument, have you surveyed 'most folks' in US, I live in US too,(west coast) I can't speak for all americans, I belive that the majority of the Americans are smarter then you think, because on TV, whether is JAY leno or any other show, they tend to make fun of REALLY stupid people, they are a minority, yet when people see them on TV, they (the stupid ones) percieved that "most americans are illiterate, and stupid", this is very wrong, and I thought that this forum is for intelligent people, guess i was wrong.
That's why I suggest everyone, well atleast people who believe they obey the laws of logic, to actualy stuy logic, memorize all the fallacies, because if you can make impeccable logical arguments, it's easier to express your ideas.
-E.Brume
Those first one-celled organisms came from amino acids, water, and electricity. Put those together and with enough action happening life happens to emerge at times, or at least, it did once. Realistically exobiology and abiogenesis therein would explain this all a lot better, but there's always the more simplistic Miller/Urey experiments, located here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edmond
And to your comment about generalizations, way not to even read the second link I posted when I was questioned about it. It isn't too general, and perhaps if you could comment or critique the second source I gave explaniing how stupid geography guesses are wrong, I would take you more seriously.
Putting it that way, from that POV, I have no choice but to agree. But there is one thing I've found by my constant questioning and research. Back when I was in public school, we were taught American History, and indeed, World History, not exactly correctly. I can never remember, but I think it was Oscar Wilde that said the trouble with history is that it is written by those who win... :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyrwen
Not really, as there’s nothing to argue (much like the actually topic of the thread).Quote:
Originally Posted by Edmond
Sorry, kiddo. 1) the simple fact that Jay Leno is a huge, huge star and is considered “funny” immediately negates your theory of a smarter American. 2) these poles are taken all the time by various newspapers and other venues. Hardly “scientific” but generally pretty indicative of the idea.Quote:
I belive that the majority of the Americans are smarter then you think, because on TV, whether is JAY leno or any other show, they tend to make fun of REALLY stupid people, they are a minority, yet when people see them on TV, they (the stupid ones) percieved that "most americans are illiterate, and stupid", this is very wrong, and I thought that this forum is for intelligent people, guess i was wrong.
Needless to say many people a) living in America agree with them b) countless others experience the idiot brigades of the (dreaded) American Tourist c) etc
2b) I wont bust on your numerous spelling and grammar mistakes in a post trying to cite the brain power of Americans…
To those that believe in myths, “creator” is not necessarily synonymous with “god”.