The Diet/Fitness Thread

Yeah that is my problem with Medicare as well. My friend had a hernia and he can't afford the surgery. And by that I mean, he can totally afford the surgery if it costed what the surgery would cost. But they charge double that just to sit in the bed and eat a few crappy meals.

I will never understand why such exorbitant charges are assessed. All it does is intimidate poor people from getting treatment, for fear that it will put their whole famiyl in a jam by being too expensive.

I could understand the hospital's viewpoint if they made the charges realistic, but they clearly aren't in many cases.

Maybe it's because they need to keep people out or it will be too crowded, who knows :/

I've incorporated High Intensity Interval Training into my weekly workout regimen. I sprint until I am out of breath, rest 20 seconds and then do it again. From what I've read this is the most effective exercise for losing fat. It really is intense. The endorphin rush is amazing. I love it.

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Originally Posted by hypatia_

Yeah that is my problem with Medicare as well. My friend had a hernia and he can't afford the surgery. And by that I mean, he can totally afford the surgery if it costed what the surgery would cost. But they charge double that just to sit in the bed and eat a few crappy meals.

I will never understand why such exorbitant charges are assessed. All it does is intimidate poor people from getting treatment, for fear that it will put their whole famiyl in a jam by being too expensive.

I could understand the hospital's viewpoint if they made the charges realistic, but they clearly aren't in many cases.

Maybe it's because they need to keep people out or it will be too crowded, who knows :/

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This is why I'm glad we have the NHS in Britain.

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Originally Posted by Volya

This is why I'm glad we have the NHS in Britain.

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Why won't something like that work in the U.S?

I have no idea. Don't many Americans dislike the idea of public healthcare? I vaguely remember there being some criticism raised at the new things Obama was doing with healthcare - Obamacare and all that

Something you should know if you have a heart condition.
Before anything else is determined and the need for it arises, if you let them, the hospitals are injecting in your tommy and then start with Warfarin. Now, Warfaring is an anticuagulant that thins the blood and prevents blood blokages or blood clots to leave a blockage and rest in the lungs, brain, or arteries, causing fatal damage like for example trombosis. Then, the hospitals order a sound scan of your arms and legs to determine is there are blockages. This way of proceeding is upside down. If it is determine that you have no blockages, what do you need Warfarin for? There are other ways of thinning your blood without drugs. DO NOT TAKE ASPIRIN. It is now well known that aspirin can cause internal bleeding over the long run.
There are two things you can use to keep your blood thin safely. Crystalized organic ginger will do that. You just chew a few little cubes every day. Combine this with some garlic oil (it comes in capsules) every other day, and you will be in good shape. Remember to refuse to take Warfarin unless you actually have blockage/s in your arms and/or legs. If you do, then you are stuck with it. You must take it and it is justified. It is a pain in the neck because the procedure needs blood testing and variation of the dosis every week. But if needed, well, what are you going to do?

Managed to get a run in tonight (fitness)
Now drinking a Smithwicke's beer (diet)

That's a great tasting beer.

Now, here are a couple of subjects that the elderly must grasp to use the ideas correctly.

1. We hear that heart disease is the silent killer. This of course is true. But what does it mean? Very seldom people die without symptoms. It is true that if you abuse your health, you will get the symptoms. But before you get the heart attack, something must happen indicating that you are going to get it. You could get things like a big pain on one shoulder, or you might feel that you have a giant standing on your chest. If so, do not wait one more minute. Go to emergency right away. Most likely, you are about to get a heart attack. But is nothing is happening like that, the silent killer might be getting ready but no symptoms are happening. The best is to have a good diet, so the silent killer gets killed.

2. There is a big difference between congestive heart failure (CHF) and a congested heart. A virus can cause a congested heart. Your heart could increase to 1.5-1.6 its normal size. Most of the goons at hospitals will diagnose CHF and propose to butcher you with invasive open-heart surgery. They ask you questions as to whether or not you are a drunkard or heavy smoker. Those two things are, of course, influential, but not enough to diagnose a difference. Things get worse because they do an EKG and they find palpitations and irregular waves. Of course you are going to have that with a congested heart. But is it failure what you have. Well, the goons think that if those are the result of the EKG, then you actually had a heart attack. They think you might be lying when you say you didn't. So they cover their congested fat asses and send you to butchery. If you have actual failure, the total anesthesia at the butcher's shop could kill you. Be careful with the goons no matter how many medical degrees they have.

kettlebells are awesome. and for some reason i feel more excited to exercise with them than traditional means. maybe because it's unique.

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Originally Posted by hypatia_

Why won't something like that work in the U.S?

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In Poland we have NHS and it doesn`t work. If you have more serious problems you have to pay and go to private clinic.

Finished a run (fitness)
Two Newcastle Brown Ales (diet)

My healthy act for yesterday was being offered four donuts and only eating two... It took a lot of willpower...

I joined a health club. It has proved more expensive than I would have preferred, but that's my fault. I'm very good at saying no, usually, but this, apparently is my achilles heel. The results of their tests are that I'm not aerobically fit and I'm ten pounds overweight, both of which I could have told them without the tests. Anyway, I have discovered, among other things, that:

I have acid reflux
I can have 40 grams of fat, 90 of protein, and 110 of carbs per day
that I am eating too many grams of fat, too few of protein, and I'm still not drinking enough water

And something that I already knew, that I am in terrible shape, aerobically and strength-wise. I'll be going there three times a week and walking on the treadmill. I have a watch that's also a heart monitor and we will be focusing on zone's 1 and 2, with foray's into zone three, and each day will focus on either cardio, resistance or core. I've gone twice and today I was exhausted, but hopefully that will change soon.

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Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle

Finished a run (fitness)
Two Newcastle Brown Ales (diet)

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Ha, ha, you can get Newcastle Brown Ales over there? I've not had a Newcy Brown for ages.

Qimissung, yes your fitness will quickly improve, quite dramatically. I was really off the rails this year because I have swapped the push bike for the motor. So when I did jump on the bike again I was hopeless. However, my fitness has gone up very quickly again with playing tennis. Personally with the carb/fat intake I do it the other way around, low carbs higher fat and protein.

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Originally Posted by qimissung

I joined a health club. It has proved more expensive than I would have preferred, but that's my fault. I'm very good at saying no, usually, but this, apparently is my achilles heel. The results of their tests are that I'm not aerobically fit and I'm ten pounds overweight, both of which I could have told them without the tests. Anyway, I have discovered, among other things, that:

I have acid reflux
I can have 40 grams of fat, 90 of protein, and 110 of carbs per day
that I am eating too many grams of fat, too few of protein, and I'm still not drinking enough water

And something that I already knew, that I am in terrible shape, aerobically and strength-wise. I'll be going there three times a week and walking on the treadmill. I have a watch that's also a heart monitor and we will be focusing on zone's 1 and 2, with foray's into zone three, and each day will focus on either cardio, resistance or core. I've gone twice and today I was exhausted, but hopefully that will change soon.

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Just make sure you give yourself enough recovery time, especially when you're just starting. If after only two days your body still says, "No, not yet," listen to it.

I will try, Calidore. I have an unfortunate tendency toward stubborness, but experience has taught me that going slow and listening to my inner voice is important-I hear it, I just don't always heed it.

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Originally Posted by Neely

Ha, ha, you can get Newcastle Brown Ales over there? I've not had a Newcy Brown for ages.

Qimissung, yes your fitness will quickly improve, quite dramatically. I was really off the rails this year because I have swapped the push bike for the motor. So when I did jump on the bike again I was hopeless. However, my fitness has gone up very quickly again with playing tennis. Personally with the carb/fat intake I do it the other way around, low carbs higher fat and protein.

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That's really, really good to hear, Neely! I hope it proves true, in my case, hehe. I did a little reading on low fat vs. low carb. You lose weight quicker with low carb, but you can eat more with low fat. So I know which one I'm sticking with.

Onward and upward!

I've dropped just over 20 pounds but I'm still not where I want to be. I cut out beer, mayo and cheese and stopped eating before bedtime. I'm gonna go vegetarian, with an exception for any venison that comes my way, though that is more for philosophical as opposed to health reasons.

Newcastle Brown Ale was a favorite at the legion where I used to bartend. Lots of old English blokes.

I sparred a few days ago. It was fun, but then he got me in a body triangle and squeezed until I couldn't breathe and I lost. Next time.

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Originally Posted by qimissung

that I am eating too many grams of fat, too few of protein, and I'm still not drinking enough water.

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That's alright, water and sources of protein are delicious. I'm a big fan of bison and salmon. Added bonus: there's not a lot of fat in them apparently.

Thanks, Jun. I knew chicken breast and salmon had a lot of protein since I looked it up recently. Didn't know about the buffalo, which has the added factor of sounding yummy.

After venison bison is easily my favourite meat. Occasionally I get a piece of beef that is on par with bison in terms of taste, but the average bison meat is hands down superior in my opinion to the average piece of beef. Also the fats in salmon are super nutritious, not to mention the high quality protein. Avocado and salmon sandwiches are one of my everyday go to meals.

Bison is delicious, though it doesn't even come close to the amazing flavour of boar meat. Not a particularly healthy meat though...

Not sure I've ever had buffalo, but I tried yak once at a (sadly short-lived) Tibetan restaurant here. It was described as being much lower-fat than beef. I got spicy stir-fried yak in garlic sauce, and it was delicious.

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Originally Posted by Darcy88

After venison bison is easily my favourite meat. Occasionally I get a piece of beef that is on par with bison in terms of taste, but the average bison meat is hands down superior in my opinion to the average piece of beef. Also the fats in salmon are super nutritious, not to mention the high quality protein. Avocado and salmon sandwiches are one of my everyday go to meals.

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The avocado and salmon sandwich sounds really delicious, Darcy. One of my favorite breakfasts is toast with a little lite mayo and a half avocado smashed on top with a little salt and pepper. Eat alone or with scrambled eggs. Truly scrumptious. So you've just given me a wonderful addition to my (admittedly small) food repertoire. Thank you!

I wish you luck in your plan Qimi. I admit I never cared about my diet. I always lose some weight in summer not deliberately of course. It mostly results from loss of appetite. I usually skip my breakfast. And it really annoys my father.

I’m quite regular in my exercise. I take evening walks and sometimes play badminton. I feel I’m in good shape, but a couple of my friends say I’m rather skinny. I don’t blame them because they seem to be some kind of heavy weight champions.

Started walking again at the HS's track.

I hyper-extended my knee 18 mo.s ago carrying a load of wood downhill; found a wet clay spot and... ausgerutscht ! heels over head.

Sat. - 1 - mile
Mon - 1 - mile
Tue - 1 - mile
Wed - 1.5 - mile(s)
Thu - plan to walk 1 - mile this evening... and Fri and Sat... Sundays off.

@ 20 minutes/mile (5 min/440) a nice steady slow pace.

Goal: A slow jog in 4-6 mo.s (weather permitting)

Sounds like a good plan, Taylor. Slow and steady is the way to go.

Bump for qimissung. :) I have trouble with searches also, but when I get listings that include gems like the incest poll thread, I probably shouldn't complain.

With the tennis and biking season over and a return to drinking a fair bit of lager, my fitness is at its seasonal low point. Also swapping the push bike with a motor is more convenient but doesn't help. However on the road to Christmas will have to do something.

I've started training for the Royal Marines: going running 3 times a week, cycling at the weekends, and lots and lots of calisthenics :D Still not usually getting my 5 a day though :eek:

Thank you very kindly, Calidore. I have made no progress whatsoever. I joined a gym and was beginning to make a smidgen of progress then got too busy to keep it up. I'm just now starting to walk again. Also I've noticed that I'm fine during the day but at night I seemingly must have a sweet treat. Which isn't helping anything of course. I signed up for My Fitness Pal. This is what I had yesterday: popcorn, no butter, at the movies, four squares of Ghirardelli dark chocolate, and a black and blue burger from Applebee's. A message popped up and said if i ate that way everyday I would gain a pound by January. Impudent get.

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Originally Posted by qimissung

This is what I had yesterday: popcorn, no butter, at the movies, four squared of Ghirardelli dark chocolate, and a black and blue burger from Applebee's. A message popped upland said it late that way everyday. I would gain a pound by January. Impudent git.

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I'm afraid those last two would defeat the purpose of the first. What's a black and blue burger?

It's got blue cheese and black Angus beef. I guess it was about a thousand calories, so even though I went for a good long walk I ended up consuming more calories than I so should have. :p

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Originally Posted by qimissung

It's got blue cheese and black Angus beef. I guess it was about a thousand calories, so even though I went for a good long walk I ended up consuming more calories than I so should have. :p

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God I want one for my lunch!

It's really, really good, I must say. :D

Have gone for a two mile walk twice this week. Yeah! Shooting for one more today before the weather gets bad again.

I train about 6 times a week, a lot of strength training and cardio. A lot of squats and deadlifts. I eat a low carb, high protein and high fat (peanut butter, avocado, coconut oil, almonds) diet. Feel better than I ever have :)

I also don't get any PMS symptoms. I used to get awful cramps and migraines now I feel literally nothing.

I'd like to start doing some strength training in the new year, although it remains to be seen whether or not I'll have the wherewithal to follow through. I agree with you on the "good fats." Consuming more of them has been beneficial. Mostly I notice that my hair is much softer so far. It had gotten quite dry, but now it's kind of like it used to be when I was a bit younger. (:D)

All things in moderation is my policy.
Got in my first good trail run after too long a break... Then I had a big ole stack O flapjacks. Buckwheat, pecan and blueberries with Irish butter and bona fide Canadian Maple syrup. Mmm-Mmm good.

(I'm thinking the last part of this post sort of contradicts the first part. Ah well, ya gotta reward yourself after a strong effort, eh?)

Did your wife make those? They sound achingly delicious.

Did manage to walk three times this week. Hurray for me.