revenge

"Judge not, that ye be not judged."
Matthew 7: 1

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."
1 Corinthians 2: 15

Which is truer? Is the question relevant?

"Judge not, that ye be not judged" means judge in the sense of condemn. "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things" means judgeth in the sense of weigh the value of. I see no inconsistency.

As for "The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer", Jesus said, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another". Times change.

To have revenged gave me dignity and the worth of my life. I love it. I want it more.
I know I am evil, will be reproved by a great deal of my friends here, but I cannot resist my intention to smile genuinely at the moment I think of what I've done.

what did you do?

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Originally Posted by thebagman

what did you do?

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Don't ask, she is obviously twisted in her own evil.

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Originally Posted by G L Wilson

Don't ask, she is obviously twisted in her own evil.

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I don't like the way you described me. I am evil, but I have never been twisted in anything.

Evil but not twisted. I'm gonna print that on a t-shirt.

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Originally Posted by virginiawang

I don't like the way you described me. I am evil, but I have never been twisted in anything.

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Revenge is never pretty, darling.

To have revenged gave me the notion that nobody can attack me at random, without paying for what they did, so I learned the fact that I am still proud. To be able to revenge made my heart beautiful. I love myself after he revenged for me.

To revenge can fix my wounded soul, and I really want it. I love and believe in him, so I know he will heal my wound by administering more punishment upon the old woman, who once hurt me mercilessly.

How did she hurt you?

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." -- Ancient Proverb (did not appear, contrary to occasional opinion, in Dangerous Liasons)

Revenge tastes sweet, slightly off.

Aww, revenge. That art of nemeses. And what an art it is indeed. I've never really been one to practice revenge. But when I have it sort of was a guilty pleasure. You know you are doing something wrong, but because that individual has wronged you, it almost feels right? Lol

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Originally Posted by libernaut

Aww, revenge. That art of nemeses. And what an art it is indeed. I've never really been one to practice revenge. But when I have it sort of was a guilty pleasure. You know you are doing something wrong, but because that individual has wronged you, it almost feels right? Lol

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Revenge is natural justice which is not just at all.

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Originally Posted by Panglossian

Evil but not twisted. I'm gonna print that on a t-shirt.

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How about Twisted but not Bitter ?

Revenge seems like something unhealthy obsession creates. If someone is to do something of any radical nature it should be out of love, not out of spite. I would like to know what good revenge would ever do. Without bringing cold blooded murders and rape into it (not to mention both actions seem like some form of revenge themselves, outside of true psychopaths of course).

Revenge is bad for both the victim and the Revenger. It's why we have the law - to take away the need for an individual to revenge themselves against serious hurts against them. If you go down the road of revenge, it could quickly lead to lynch mobs. In a civilised society everyone has a right to a fair hearing - revenge and lynching removes this and is too easily manipulated.

The rule of law or the law of the jungle. I know which one I would choose.

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Originally Posted by Paulclem

Revenge is bad for both the victim and the Revenger. It's why we have the law - to take away the need for an individual to revenge themselves against serious hurts against them. If you go down the road of revenge, it could quickly lead to lynch mobs. In a civilised society everyone has a right to a fair hearing - revenge and lynching removes this and is too easily manipulated.

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Law IS revenge

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Originally Posted by Revolte

Law IS revenge

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Law is retribution, there's a difference.

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Originally Posted by G L Wilson

Law is retribution, there's a difference.

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Most crimes are non violent. If you ask me incarcerating someone because they did something you wouldn't do, is some sort of ethic revenge. "I don't like what you did, so I'm going to get you back!"

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Originally Posted by Revolte

Most crimes are non violent. If you ask me incarcerating someone because they did something you wouldn't do, is some sort of ethic revenge. "I don't like what you did, so I'm going to get you back!"

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Order or anarchy, baby, your choice?

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Originally Posted by G L Wilson

Order or anarchy, baby, your choice?

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Show me order and I'll show you living breathing Megatron Dragons.

Blanket condemnations of revenge only demonstrate a lack of imagination. Consider: Christian preacher condemns gay lifestyle; disaffected former lover outs him. This is revenge that benefits and edifies nearly everyone. Former dictator who tortures and kills his people is publicly and slowly disemboweled. A valuable object lesson and good for almost everyone. No doubt there are countless other examples.

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Originally Posted by Revolte

Show me order and I'll show you living breathing Megatron Dragons.

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If you don't know what order looks like, you are really in trouble.

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Originally Posted by WyattGwyon

Blanket condemnations of revenge only demonstrate a lack of imagination. Consider: Christian preacher condemns gay lifestyle; disaffected former lover outs him. This is revenge that benefits and edifies nearly everyone. Former dictator who tortures and kills his people is publicly and slowly disemboweled. A valuable object lesson and good for almost everyone. No doubt there are countless other examples.

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You have a strange idea of justice, sport.

Sometimes justice is only had by revenge. and how tasty a morsel it is! just dont get obsessed by it.

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Originally Posted by IceM

I have abusive parents. I'm speaking from experience.

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Originally Posted by IceM

For some reason I smell sarcasm. I'm sure it's not intentional; it's just that one friend I have always says they "bow" to my intelligence when they wish to stop arguing. That reminded me of them, with hopes you aren't being sarcastic.




Perhaps they aren't polar opposites. But being able to tolerate means being able to endure. Endurance grants me (personal experience) the ability to forego revenge. As long as I can persevere, I have no reason to retaliate.



Another form of experience: I supress my emotions quite often. Seems coincidental, I'm sure, to have my experiences come up instantaneously.

I've only ever admitted emotional repercussions from my parents to my best friends. But I act perfectly normal. I function very well amongst others. Of course, underlying doubt in oneself, negative self-esteem and an underlying lack of self-worth sometimes aren't easy to detect. I only confess it here under anonymity. But once again, I refer to my ability to tolerate, which I link synonymously to endurance; enduring eliminates revenge. It makes oneself stronger.

Also too, understanding and accepting a parent's reason for abusive behavior is tolerance of their views. I use it loosely, under many pretences, but my ability to endure above all else makes any strife I may have much less of an issue.

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Originally Posted by IceM

I always find endurance to be internal. Newborn sensations and long-standing sentiments must be stored somewhere. My endurance is the ability to psychologically withstand emotional damage by philosophically rationalizing them.

Perhaps the self-satisfaction in knowing one can frequently endure channels out the energy as you suggest. Knowing one can persevere makes persevering easier. I just find myself feeling otherwise.

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I want to take an opportunity to recant ALL of these statements here, and to confess my sin of lying and fabricating an experience.

I never lived in an abusive context. I never had abusive parents. I lied about these things and waxed poetic about things I have no knowledge of, and I'm sorry for that. I confess that to this community.

Although this post is almost a decade old, I confess to alleviate my conscience. An additional benefit of my confession is that, for people who, through whatever means, stumble or stumbled upon this thread and read my comments and were influenced by them, my comments could lead people to form conclusions or assumptions about those who live under abusive parents, and these assumptions based on my lies could lead to misinformation. So this post serves as a confession of false information, as well as a desire not to misinform anyone else moving forward.

This ancient thread was less than civil.