Great Gatsby HELP

think nick was bad to get with people who are so headonistic:bawling: :bawling: :blush:

In my opinion, Myrtle was argry as she was jelous of Daisy as she wished to live with Tom. This can be seen in the novel during the scene in which Myrtle shouts at Tom, "Daisy, Daisy, Daisy" This is why Tom smackes Myrtle in the puss. But she deserved it!!!!!

"Gonnegtion" means connection, it is spelt this way to show that Wolfsheim is speaking with an accent. This is also evident when he states "Oggsford" as opposed to Oxford.xxxxxxxx

yes i do agree with eilidh on this point as that is also what i belive. thankyou xxxxxxx

F. Scott Fitzgerald is an excellent writer, i would like to see you do better :flare: Eric. "he Great Gatsby" has a particularly in depth and intellectual storyline, the book is made by Fitzgerald's brilliant writing and subtlety in portraying the problems of the time.

She was angryyy! She could not stand her husband as he was a poor man. She wanted Tom's lifestyle thats why she kept trying to cling to him.

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Who do you believe is the true villan in the novel as many people are corrupt and bad

i believe so

Of course, Myrtle was both angry and sad, she had the jealousy of Daisy, and she was sad as she also had the problem of being beaten by Tom, she was also sad in the way of being a loser because she tried to get higher up the social lader, but couldn't. :)

Do you think Daisy truely ever loved Gatsby :)

I have to disagree as The Great Gatsby is a "Great" book. I feel that the messages put across in the book are very beneficial as they highlight to the reader how the failure of the American dream affected everyone. The themes of the hedonism of the rich, show that the lower classes are paying for the sins that were actually committed by the higher classes and the lower class people - whom live in the valley of ashes- were actually the people who lived the better lifestyle as they didn't has to worry about any hedonism. This is all told in a story about a man who has endless passion to achieve his goals and this is why Nick looks up to him, not the fact that he is gay as some readers think (this is only an image created my the more immature readers).

I think there is not one main villain but F. Scott Fitzgerald wants the reader to understand that everyone who led the hedonistic lifestyle was a villain. Tom and Daisy can be called villains because they do not appreciate how much they affect the people around them with their reckless lifestyle.

Winston xxx

Tom is the real villain as he is disloyal and untrustworthy. However, this is typical of the corruption at the time. Having affairs was commonplace. Gatsby was a gangster, bootlegging was frowned upon despite the fact everybody drinks. This makes Gatsby seem villainous when Tom is the real villain. This is how in my opinion Gatsby is brutally shot at the end.

i also dislike this book. I have no specific reason for this argument i just found the text boring and uninteresting. I am sure this is a great book if u like it but it did not appeal to me! :flare: x

There is no one main villain, but a conglomerate of them.

Gatsby is a villain but because he doesnt affect others but lets them use his house and cars for parties etc he can be considered a minor villain, compared to other folk who used and abused Gatsby.

How could you not love this book. It's beautifully written to start with which makes you want to read it even if it is about nothing. Additionally, the themes that he brings up such as hedonism are interesting and challenging to the reader. Shame you dislike it so much! Mrs DuVivier will be so disappointed. No cake for you!

In the past i think she did but she didn't want to be with him because he had no money. In the end both Tom and Gatsby are wealthy but she chooses to stay with tom which must mean she is no longer in love with gatsby xxxx

It is also apperent at Myrtles death that she was extremely jelous of Daisy. The reader can see that she runs onto the road as she belives it is Tom driving the car and she possibly wishes to tell Daisy about her affair so she could spend the rest of her life with her true love, Tom. This gives a sense of sadness not only towards Myrtle for being so attached to Tom, but George Wilson as well, as it is obvious that Myrtle does not have true love and passion for her husband.

Yes but she loved a man she oncve new a long time ago. When she meets Gatsby again he has changed but she does noit realise this until the end of the book when she chooses Tom over him. :yawnb: :( :lol: :flare: ;) :alien: :p :sick: :thumbs_up :)

i belive that Daisy did love Gatsby a long time ago however when he returned she did not truely ever love him and i think she just wanted to relive a past love and deep down she knew that it would never work out now that she was with and i think she was just with Gatsby so she could have the best of both worlds and have 2 men xxxx

good god you are a genius

In the past I think Daisy loved Gatsby as much as she could possibly love a person. However when they were reunited he was only a form of escapism from her reality that she had grown to dislike.

I agree with these posts - Daisy did once feel deeply for Gatsby (the hint provided by the scene the night before her wedding where she was drunk with the mysterious letter confirms this). But she and he were both young when they were "dating" - and a war was going on and the atmosphere of being young in such a time may have contributed to the romance of their relationship. Either way, by the time they re-met in the novel, things had clearly changed.

I think an interesting question would be the other side of the coin: did Gatsby ever really love Daisy, in the past or in the "present" in the novel when they get back together?

I don't believe Daisy ever truly loved Gatsby simply because Daisy was a very self-involved personality. It is unlikely she even truly loved her daughter judging by the way she treated the child as something of a show piece trotting her out to perform for guests and then sending her away. In the past Daisy might have felt an attraction to Gatsby possibly to the point of being infatuated with him but when push came to shove and she got Gatsby's letter the night before she married Tom, Daisy did not call off the wedding. While Daisy probably enjoyed the attention Gatsby bestowed on her, I don't believe Daisy ever had any intention of leaving Tom for Gatsby. She probably liked the idea of having another suitor again but she certainly never planned to leave her secure and respectable life with Tom and seemed genuinely dismayed when Gatsby tried to broach the subject with Tom in the Plaza Hotel.

You could comment on her physical attributes..

Like her bright eyes and a bright passionate mouth?

You should also note that her voice pays tribute to her sexual allure, she creates an intimiacy with the recipient of her words but ultimately this shows her to be seductress - which Nick probably finds attractive.

Rippling and fluttering - in the first chapter shows them to be more than human - possibly angelic?

How about the moments of ephiphany - eg crying over shirts and the comment about a 'beautiful little fool'. Maybe dispell the view that she is surfaceless by saying she is emotionally aware and understands society's prejudices (beautiful little fool comment)

Hope this helps.

All the post here seem to say Daisy loved Gatsby and then she was just in love with the idea of loving Gatsby. I don't think Daisy is the sort of person that would fall in love with the idea of Gatsby. She loved him and then she forgot him, but when she saw him again their love of rekindled. Only it wasn't an easy life, and that is one of Daisy's main goals, to live an easy life.

I agree that there is no villian in the novel. The novel has characters that are too realistic to ever be grouped under the title 'villian'. The novel illustrates the immorals of life in the Jazz age, the good and the bad. I like this more realistic approach.

The main issue was that Myrtle was bored with her life, and felt that she was going no where. When she met Tom he gave her the oppertunity to do and be things that she could not have overwise achieved with Wilson. Then she was stuck down by many other emotions. She was both angry and sad when she looked at her life in comparision to what it could be if she was married to Tom, I think in a way even though she was aware of how she used Tom she did love him. She was incredible jealous and not that brightest of people.

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Originally Posted by trismegistus
Dear dmcadidas15,

Don't waste your time doing all that annoying research. Here are the answers to almost all your questions:

1. A 1968 Ford Fairlane
2. A. (She also his second cousin once removed, but that relationship is so distant, it's cool that they are lovers too.)
3. Technically a trick question. Myrtle Wilson has a STEP sister named Catherine.
4. He's speaking of Meyer Wolfsheim.
5. True. She gets a letter from Gatsby that makes her have second thoughts.
6. True. He believes in loyalty as he demonstrates when he speaks of his old gang buddy who was gunned down.
7. Jordan Baker (She is herself an athlete and so the "sport" tickles her fancy.)
8. B. This is Fitzgerald's not-so-subtle internal reference to Gatsby's own hopes.
9. St Olaf's
10. Don't remember
11. E. Gatsby bathes every day.
12. Yale
13. North Dakota
14. E. (This is why an alternative title to the book was "Gold-Hatted Gatsby")
15. C. (Gatsby has convinced the world he is a legit businessman from a family of blue bloods)
16. George Wilson
17. False - Jordan Baker is driving the "death car"
18. Rosenberg
19. Don't know
20. Zamfir
21. "Little Montenegro!"
22. Myrtle Wilson
23. Meyer Wolfsheim
24. The Pinafore
25. Don't know
26. True. (Fiztgerald's great irony is that all this wealth is just about to go down the drain in the stock market crash)
27. Nick Carraway for the period in the book when he is homeless and Gatsby helps him out. Just before offers him a "gonnegtion"
28. Marriott
29. E.
30. B. (This sets the reader up for the mention of Meyer Wolfshiem's nose later in the novel.)
31. Baker
32. B.
33. A.
34. False. She introduces Gatsby to her child, Elizabeth Barrett Browning Buchanan
35. TRICK QUESTION ALERT! Nick and Tom went to St. Olaf's NOT Gatsby!
36. E. (Nick says later on that both she and Tom were both "careless people")
37. Cassidy (A reference to Hopalong Cassidy, the great hero of the West)
38. E.
39. Myrtle Wilson after she has recovered from her brush with death
40. Polo (He brings a "whole string of polo ponies" from Chicago for his wedding)
41. See above
42. False
43. Gatsse
44. False. He narrates the story from the Mid-West, but he states that he will ultimately return East to accept Wolfsheim's "gonnegtion"
45. False. NICK'S house is in West Egg
46. D.
47. C. (Remember that George Wilson kills him for the affair with Myrtle)
48. B.
49. In his library among his beloved books. The irony is of course that he's surrounded by all the "genuine" books at this moment - his moment of truth when he must choose between the great loves of his life: Daisy or Jordan.
50. Don't know

Good luck, dude. I'm sure you'll do just fine

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I was just wondering if you even read the book? Because anyone who actually read it would not have gotten such odd answers as you did. It was strange some were right.
Some wrong ones I automatically noticed and corrected:
2. e- Jordan Baker
4.Tom is talking about George Wilson
6.False- He doesn't go to the funeral becuase he doesnt get involved in deaths.
7. Gatsby calls everyone old sport (VERY OBVIOUS ?)
8. A - the book was Hopalong Cassidy
11. D- making a million dollars wasn't on Gatsbys list.
17. False- Daisy was driving the car
20. Michealis
23. Tom
25. c- the 1919 world series
27. George Wilson kills Gatsby
30. A- it was his eyes!
39. MYRTLE IS DEAD! Nick meets Tom again.

flyinpixie is right.

ok i need quick responses. I have to write an essay on self discovery in the book. I'm thinking of focusing on Nick mostly b/c he realizes that hes not cut out for the east blahblahblah... so if you have ideas shout them out!:D :D

just happen to be studying for my english final (in which this book appears) and decided to give my two cents:

On the question of Gatsby's shirts and why Daisy cries over them.

I've read previous responses to this question and I have to say that I disagree with just about all of them. To truly understand the significance of this scene, we must understand how different Daisy and Gatsby are. Daisy is of "Old Money" - Old Money tastes and lifestyle. Gatsby, however, is of the Nouveau Riche class, one that also Meyer Wolfshiem belongs to. As "New Money" Gatsby's tastes are superficial, imitations (and horrible ones at that) of "old Money" luxuries determined by his ideas of what it is to be rich. His West Egg shirts and parties are complete opposites of the banquets of the East Egg. He wears garish shirts and drives an ostentatious car.

These differences go beyond the present time. Daisy was born and bred into wealth, while Gatsby, a poor clam digger (he was a clam digger, right?), only dreamnt of it.

Taken these fundamental differences in their social status, it is (at least to my ears) ridiculous to suggest that Daisy cried over his shirts because she saw in them what her life would be like with Gatsby. She has no desire for his Nouveau Riche shirts or parties (and when invited to one, dislikes it), as her tastes are of Old Money - effectively, of Tom. Her tears are her realization of the impenentreable distance between East and West Egg. Gatsby can never be an East Egger (in spite of his futile attempts to do so), the same way she cannot come to live like a West Egger.

It is this revelation that brings her to tears, knowing now that she and Gatsby, in spite of their briefly rekindled romance, can never be together as before.

"Her voice is full of money."

Is there anyone here who can answer a few questions for me on the Great Gatsby?

can someone please help? I have a report on Nick Carraway on if or not he was corrupted? I think he was but I need help finding some examples.

i have some questions that need helped being answered as well. These are percise questions so the passage readings are listed.

Starting from the beginning of Chapter 8 p.154 to p.157 ending with "...safe and proud above the hto struggles of the poor."

1. In the fourth paragraph, which describes Gatsby's house, the surreal atmosphere is conveyed primarily through the choice of
a. nouns
b. adjectives
c. verbs
d. pronounds
e. adverbs

2. In the clause "Jay Gatsby' had broken up like glass,"Jay Gatsby" refers to
a. the public perception of Gatsby
b. Gatsby's relationship with Daisy
c. Gatsby's association with Wolfsheim
d. Nick's belief in Gatsby
e. The perosna Gatsby had created

3. The "long secret extravaganza" (mentioned in the paragraph beginning "it was this night") had begun when Gatsby
a. first met Daisy
b. was reunited with Daisy
c. met Dan Cody
d. was in the war
e. moved to West Egg

4. In the second sentence of the paragraph beginning " She was the first 'nice' girl," the phrase "such people" refers to those who differed from Gatsby in terms of
a. social status
b. moral values
c. manners
d. concern for others
e. occupation

5. The paragraph begining "She was the fifrst 'nice' girl" reveals Gatsby's
I. materialism
II. romanticism
III. cynicism

a. I only
b. II only
c. I and II only
d. II and III only
e. I, II, and III

6. IN the paragraph beginning "But he knew" and the paragraph which follows it, Gatsby is portrayed as
a. delusional
b. guilt-ridden
c. opportunistic
d. nonchalant
e. resigned

7. In the last two paragraphs of the passage, Daisy is presented as
a. committed
b. unattainable
c. insincere
d. manipulative
e. uninterested

8. In the ocntext of the passage and the novel as a whole, the comparison of Daisy to "a grail" could best be described as
a. appropriate
b. sarcastic
c. foreboding
d. ironic
e. condescending

hope u guys got the same answers i got

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Originally Posted by SaGe

flyinpixie is right.

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I believe trismegistus was joking as he did not want to do the original poster's homework for him.


Been lurking here for a while now, your discussions and insight are really helping me revise! Thanks! :D

i need answers to these ?s below about Great Gatsby.. any of the answers would be nice and ill do anything PLEASE!! please e-mail answers to me at [email protected]

Chapters 4-6 ?s

In Chapter 5, Gatsby's dream seems to be coming ture. What indications are there, though, that reality cannot satisify his dream?

The philosopher, plato said that reality was an imperfect reflection of an ideal realm. With this in mind, what would you say Nick means when he says that "jay gatsby sprang from his platonic concpetion of himself."?

Discuss the relationship between Daisy and Tom. What do you think they have in common? why do they stay together?

Chapters 7-9 ?s

What do the eyes of Dr. T.J. Eckleburg symbolize to George Wilson? What is the significance of this symbol?

What does the green light symbolize at the end of the novel?

discuss the title of the book. IN what way is Gatsby "great"?

Describe the gradual revelation of Gatsby's Character. what do we learn about him and when? why is this an appropriate way of learning about him?

Tom and Daisy, we are told, drifted around before settling in east egg and nick expects them to continue to drift. how much does rootlessness have to do with the characters problems, do you think?

Gatsby's tragedy is that he chooses the wrong dream(Daisy). Has he been corrupted by society? or is his choice an indication that he is part of the problem?

gr. i realy relay, do not like this book. Ive been sick and missed the first 5 chapters, and now i have to write 10 dialetical journals? and 3 short answerws, the prompts are as follows.
1. show that old money belives they are better than new money.
2. show how there is snobbery even in the lower classes
3. show the difference between west egg and east egg.

all are from chapter 1 and 2.
if you could help me with anything it would be realy realy appreciated. i just need maybe a few important points that would help with the short answers, or what a dialetical journal is?

The significance of the shirts is entirley existential: Gatsby is acting in mauvais fois and placing value in material objects and is hence feeling nausea.... look it up Jean Paul Sartre